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A microchip would help when your dog runs behind the bushes in your front yard? :confused:
Just curious - How many people here had their dog tatooed while it was awake? I didn't even know you could do that! I would think that the dog would twitch like nuts, or that it would bite. Leather was under when she got hers...She probably would have bitten the person giving the tatoo lol. :rolleyes:
She was obviously off leash in the front yard and wandered far enough to get hit by a van.. so she could easily have waundered much further .....Quote:
Originally posted by wolfsoul
A microchip would help when your dog runs behind the bushes in your front yard? :confused:
Just saying that it might be best for her safety.
I have seen tattooing done while the dog is awake and do not agree with it. I watched 4 people hold this rotti down while the lady tattooed it. I was so upset the dog was struggling with all his might. His eyes had nothing but fear in them. My dogs have all been under when they had theirs done. If a tattoo is going to be done please have them asleep.
Just curious - How many people here had their dog tatooed while it was awake? >>>>>>
Sheba was tatoo'd awake when she was a year old
at a Dog Show. She was afraid, when she had to lay
down and be rolled on her side and have strangers
work on her.
(Back than, Vets in my area did not tatoo nor chip.)
After seeing it done, I would NEVER do it again unless
the dog was givin a sedative or put under anethesia
along with another medical procedure being done.
Putting a dog "under" for only a tatoo, I would never
do. Anethesia can be dangerous.
I would chip all my future dogs, and when spayed or neutered I might tatoo too.
i wouldn't wanna see that either! Poor pup! I agree! if anyone wants to do the tattoo going "under" is the best.. Even though it may be very dangerous.. But thats the a good reason for microchipping. You dont have to be put "under" and they dont really have to suffer As much pain.Quote:
Originally posted by oodlesofpoodles
I have seen tattooing done while the dog is awake and do not agree with it. I watched 4 people hold this rotti down while the lady tattooed it. I was so upset the dog was struggling with all his might. His eyes had nothing but fear in them. My dogs have all been under when they had theirs done. If a tattoo is going to be done please have them asleep.
Leather was under because she was getting spayed, getting a tumor removed AND getting the tatoo all at the same time lol. :)Quote:
Originally posted by KYS
Putting a dog "under" for only a tatoo, I would never
do. Anethesia can be dangerous.
Max has nothing, not chip, no tattoo, no collar. Max hasn't worn a collar for about 5 yrs now. & a tattoo is out of the question. But if all goes well then next few months & I get the military job, I'll be chipping Max cause he'll be living on base with me.
I guess i hadn't seen this post.
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Originally posted by tikeyas_mom
I dont need to be careful. My dogs dont run away, if the gate is left open by one of my lil brothers or their friends my dogs sit at the front door and whine till someone comes and lets them in, they are very well behaved.
So you're saying you don't need to be careful of the safety of your animals? Any dog is capable of "running away". Simba is the most well trained dog I know, I still would never trust him off leash.
We know, your dog Tikeya has a high prey drive. What if she sees an animal she wants to chase, and runs off? I'm not saying your dogs aren't behaved, but even the most behaved dog in the world could run off.
Collars can slip off easily. No matter how tight. Collars aren't always the safest way to insure that your pet is going to be found and you notified about it. ANYONE could steal your dog, take it's collar off and call it theirs.
Microchipping is different. In the microchip YOUR information is recorded therefor, if in a situation of your dog getting stolen you can get it back 100% no matter what someone says, Your information in the chip, your dog.
Collars can also be very dangerous. A dog I used to take care of ( A Chocolate Lab named Buster) once got his leg stuck in his collar while scratching. If it wasn't for me showing up after school he could have easily choked himself to death. No, i'm not saying go take your dogs collar off.
I'm not trying to be rude, but i'm just trying to explain how great a microchip can really be. Tags and a collar aren't always the safest.
I just said ubove that my dogs are neutered and spayed. My parents just dont believe in it getting our dogs microchipped, is that so bad. ????.. If I got a dog that was already tattooed I would update info on it. I just dont think that it is nessisary to get your dog tattooed or microchipped. My parent dont like the idea. So I agree with them.Quote:
Originally posted by shais_mom
I don't understand what religion is against microchipping.
Shaianne was tattooed, have thought about getting Keegan chipped.
So Tikeya's mom, Tikeya isn't spayed?
Never say never, you might have the most well behaved dogs in the world but if something unexpected happens, that isn't going to help you any. And just b/c your dogs are well-behaved doesn't mean people are, your dogs can still be stolen right out from your yard.
Collars can slip off, tags can fall off, and dogs/cats can be hung up on their collars when they are running loose and killed.
Course listing all these things really make me thing that I need to microchip Keegan, I think I have convinced myself.
I wish I was under when I got my tattoo!! lol :rolleyes: it hurts like hell, I would never want my dogs to feel that kind of pain, + tattos ware off and get blury, I have seen some like that. and they usually have to be redone.Quote:
Originally posted by CamCamPup33
i wouldn't wanna see that either! Poor pup! I agree! if anyone wants to do the tattoo going "under" is the best.. Even though it may be very dangerous.. But thats the a good reason for microchipping. You dont have to be put "under" and they dont really have to suffer As much pain.
Tattoos normally don't rub off if they're are done properly and well. :)
Yup, tatoos can fade if you don't take care of them, I saw a lady the other day at the store that had a tattoo from her shoulder to her elbow and it was peeling. blech
I have a feeling it might be ok if you didn't use an ink pen! :confused:
Actually, in a case where your dog is stolen, a microchip would be very little help. Who on earth (even a thief) is going to take your stoeln dog to the vet to have it's microchip checked after they just stole the dog? I'm not saying microchipping is bad lol, I quite like the idea of it, i'm just saying that in that situation it wouldn't be as helpful something more visible, like a tatoo. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Kfamr
Microchipping is different. In the microchip YOUR information is recorded therefor, if in a situation of your dog getting stolen you can get it back 100% no matter what someone says, Your information in the chip, your dog.
I'm saying IF the person tries saying it is their dog, you can always say "Well, he/she has a chip" and they are able to scan it.Quote:
Originally posted by wolfsoul
Actually, in a case where your dog is stolen, a microchip would be very little help. Who on earth (even a thief) is going to take your stoeln dog to the vet to have it's microchip checked after they just stole the dog? I'm not saying microchipping is bad lol, I quite like the idea of it, i'm just saying that in that situation it wouldn't be as helpful something more visible, like a tatoo. :)
Wow!! What a thread.:) At the humane society where I work we tatto. This is done the same time the animal is under to be spayed or neutered. Therefore, it doesn't feel a thing. We are non-profit and this (for rght now) is the best way for us to identify the animals in case they get lost or whatever. From what I understand there is more than one type of chip so more than one type of scanner is needed. Not always practical. I have been able to return dogs to owners due to our tatto. I have had people call and say they have found a dog with our tattoo and no tags. We enter the tat# in the computer and there ya go the owner! I also believe in tags, because your neighbor down the street is going to look for tags(for sure), maybe a tattoo, but won't beable to scan for a chip.
At L.A.W.S. all animals leaving get chipped, u have no say in it at all, & its free so whos gonna complain. They also fix the dog for free as well. U pay a fee when u get the dog & u have so many days to bring it in to their vet, & u get ur money back. Or u leave the dog there so they can get it fixed for u & u can pick up the dog a few days after its been fixed. & this shelter gets all its $$ from the comunity. Its kinda funny really, a super poor town, with a really rich animal shelter. Animals r well loved in the comunity &I've seen what happenes to people who abuse any animal. The cops come & remove it & u never see it again. I love by-laws :)
posted by Cisco's Mom:I understand there is more than one type of chip so more than one type of scanner is needed. Not always practical. >>>>>>
This is very true. In CA. and I assume other states this
problems has improved in the last few years.
My vet originally refused to invest in scanning and chipping for the above reason.
But when our local shelters starting using sometype of universal scanner, my vet started chipping.
I believe hospitals/research labs in CA. (not sure about
other states) are required to look for a tatoo and also
scan a dog for a chip before purchasing a dog for research etc.
(Many dogs were/or are stolen to sell to research)
As for being stollen and sold to a private party,
I guess having more than one form of ID is a good idea.
Wow!! lol all free? yeah here i dont think so! :) :p
yeah, penny and clover has spay tats in there ears (a small circle with a line through it) and the 2 cats have the same tats in there ears alsoQuote:
Does anyone else have spay tattooes on their pets?
but we requested not to have theodore (chihuahua) tattoed :rolleyes: when he was neutered because it would ruin the look of his ears:rolleyes:
may be able to see the tat in this pick of penny (in her left ear) it is standard practice and is done when still anethitised(SP?) so they dont feel it
I would love to microchip Heidi but my dad doesn't want her to be. :( I want it for a precaution, since we travel a lot and we take her with. I want it SO bad though. :(
All the critters are chipped here. Glacier the cat is also tatooed. His ear was done while he was neutered--before chips were common. They also all wear collars with id tags. Course I go through tags like crazy. Somewhere in my yard there is a huge stash of little silver bones with my address on them! The guy at the trophy store I get the tags from doesn't even ask my address anymore, just which dog name I want on the tag! The last batch has no names, just says "I belong at:...."
I've had several dogs turn up at my place with no id except a tag from the chip company. One phone call and the doggers were all returned home. At least two were returned before their owners even noticed they had escaped! It doesn't take a husky long to get away!
All NGA registered greyhound are tattooed at around 3 months of age, then registered with the NGA.
So all my crew have tat's. One tat in each ear. The right ear has the month, year and letter. Augie who is 5 his right ear reads 79A= July 1999 and was letter A pup out of his litter.
The left ear has the litter number. So every pup in his litter will have the same left ear number.
I've heard that the chips can sometimes get lost or misplaced in the dogs system. Has anyone ever had this trouble?
If my crew wasn't tattooed I would chip them :)
Better safe than sorry
I've wondered this about the tattoos. If your dog is tattooed couldn't a theif cut off the ear or something if he sees the tattoo? :confused: I know that sounds terrible cruel but I've wondered about it. :rolleyes:
The two little ones are not chipped and don't have tats. Max is chipped, but does not have a tattoo. Axel has both a chip and a tattoo. We have requested his blue pet slip be signed so we can have him transferred to our names by the NGA, but haven't received it back from his previous owner. In that case, if the NGA was contacted, it would lead back to a farmer in KS, and not to us, yet. Although, they could probably track him by the adoption gropu was sent.
Gonzo has been microchipped since the day we got him, when we first took him to the vet. He has an Avid chip, which is in the universal scanner used by all shelters and vets. He is a total baby when it comes to shots and everything, but he didn't even wince when he got chipped. Every time we take him back to the vet they re-check to make sure the chip is still in place, and it's still there. And, it only cost $20! $5 to register with the Avid database! I don't understand why more people don't get their pets chipped....
Believe me I would LOVE to, but unfortunately my parents won't let me. :(Quote:
Originally posted by bckrazy
Gonzo has been microchipped since the day we got him, when we first took him to the vet. He has an Avid chip, which is in the universal scanner used by all shelters and vets. He is a total baby when it comes to shots and everything, but he didn't even wince when he got chipped. Every time we take him back to the vet they re-check to make sure the chip is still in place, and it's still there. And, it only cost $20! $5 to register with the Avid database! I don't understand why more people don't get their pets chipped....
it's definitely happened. My friend's dog was stolen, and, when they found him, both his ears had been cut off. :( I've even heard (but, never seen firsthand) of dogs and cats having limbs removed, because the tattoo was on their inner thigh or something. Again, I've only personally seen the ear being cut off, but, I wouldn't doubt that there are sickos that would cut a leg off, too. I think my friend's dog was either on it's way or found at a lab. :( That's when I changed my mind about leaving a dog outside unattended (and, I'm not saying everyone should feel that way).Quote:
Originally posted by Miranda_Rae
I've wondered this about the tattoos. If your dog is tattooed couldn't a theif cut off the ear or something if he sees the tattoo? :confused: I know that sounds terrible cruel but I've wondered about it. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by guster girl
it's definitely happened. My friend's dog was stolen, and, when they found him, both his ears had been cut off. :( I've even heard (but, never seen firsthand) of dogs and cats having limbs removed, because the tattoo was on their inner thigh or something. Again, I've only personally seen the ear being cut off, but, I wouldn't doubt that there are sickos that would cut a leg off, too. I think my friend's dog was either on it's way or found at a lab. :( That's when I changed my mind about leaving a dog outside unattended (and, I'm not saying everyone should feel that way).
How horrible!!! :eek: :( Those people are oh, :mad: I can't think of anything to say! That is one of the reasons that I want to get Heidi microchipped instead of tattooed.
Miranda_Rae, Just curious... Why won't your dad let you? Maybe if you printed out that article in my first post (Which not to mention was a year ago! :p) and showed it to him, he would change his mind?
Because he doesn't think its necessary because she has her tags and because he says you're supposed to trust God :rolleyes: ....sure ok I do but its a PRECAUTION!!!! Man....I want to SO bad. I hope he will let me....maybe if I have another talk with him. :DQuote:
Originally posted by CamCamPup33
Miranda_Rae, Just curious... Why won't your dad let you? Maybe if you printed out that article in my first post (Which not to mention was a year ago! :p) and showed it to him, he would change his mind?
This was years ago, when I was in junior high. I can't account for how frequently these things happen. But, I know they have happened, and, I'm sure they still do. All you can do is try your best to keep your pets safe and protected. Finn is microchipped and so is Lock (the bengal with my ex). Both my RB boys, Bruno and Dusty, were microchipped. And, all collared, as well.Quote:
Originally posted by Miranda_Rae
How horrible!!! :eek: :( Those people are oh, :mad: I can't think of anything to say! That is one of the reasons that I want to get Heidi microchipped instead of tattooed.
Could you get your pet there and pay for the chipping? If that was the case, I don't see why he'd have to know. ;) Just teasing, mostly. Ha ha, but, seriously, if you took your dad out of the equation completely, as far as transportation, time, and, money, what would he be able to say? It could only benefit the pet. I mean, if you didn't spend your $20 on it, you'd just blow it on a shirt or a couple of movies or something. I don't know, that's just how I see it.Quote:
Originally posted by Miranda_Rae
Because he doesn't think its necessary because she has her tags and because he says you're supposed to trust God :rolleyes: ....sure ok I do but its a PRECAUTION!!!! Man....I want to SO bad. I hope he will let me....maybe if I have another talk with him. :D
I would definately pay for it myself, but the thing is I don't have a liscense yet. :( I want to get her microchipped though before we go to Winnipeg.Quote:
Originally posted by guster girl
Could you get your pet there and pay for the chipping? If that was the case, I don't see why he'd have to know. ;) Just teasing, mostly. Ha ha, but, seriously, if you took your dad out of the equation completely, as far as transportation, time, and, money, what would he be able to say? It could only benefit the pet. I mean, if you didn't spend your $20 on it, you'd just blow it on a shirt or a couple of movies or something. I don't know, that's just how I see it.
Both of my girls are now microchipped. And Bon will be soon.
Duh, haven't you read the Bible, Torah, or Quran? It's in all of them. "Thou shalt not microchip thy pets."Quote:
Originally posted by aly
How is it against your religion?
Everyone knows Jesus was adamantly against microchipping dogs back in the day. :rolleyes:
;) :D
Some of my dogs are microchipped and some are tattooed.
If you have your dog tattooed by someone who knows what they are doing, its really not that bad for them - awake.
I had 2 of my girls tattooed last winter and it was quick and easy on them... the only thing they fought with was when they were put on their side on the table. After that they relaxed and were fine.
I think it just depends on each dog how they react. Some dogs dont' handle any kind of pain, even if its very minor.
That microchip needle isn't small. My smooth male screamed his head off when he was chipped... my 2 girls that were tattooed didn't fight or make a noise the whole time it was done - and it was pretty quick.
I know of a sheltie breeder who has all her pups tattooed between 8-12 wks age, and those tattoos look the same when the dog is 8-9-10yrs old, as they did when they were done.
I have a litter of Collie pups right now, and they go in for CERF eye checks in a couple weeks. The clinic I am taking my pups to for eye checks requires the puppies to have some form of permanent ID - tattoo or chipped. Most vets I know (I work for a vet) won't do microchips on pups that young... so they will probably have to be tattooed.
Janna
I am a Christian, and I found that quite offensive. There is nothing in the Bible against it, but some people feel differently about things such as that. I don't have a whole lot of time to explain, but I think you should ask tm WHY she believes that instead of insulting Christianity/Islam, etc. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Samantha Puppy
Duh, haven't you read the Bible, Torah, or Quran? It's in all of them. "Thou shalt not microchip thy pets."
Everyone knows Jesus was adamantly against microchipping dogs back in the day. :rolleyes:
;) :D
I, myself, am confused as to what religion says anything remotely close to this topic. I'm waiting to see an answer, from anyone, because I'm confused!
I'm a Christian too. It's called a joke. Sheesh, lighten up. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Miranda_Rae
I am a Christian, and I found that quite offensive. There is nothing in the Bible against it, but some people feel differently about things such as that. I don't have a whole lot of time to explain, but I think you should ask tm WHY she believes that instead of insulting Christianity/Islam, etc. :)