OH!!! No!! I'm not hearing this! I'm terribly sorry that Kia and you are having to go thru all of this.:( My prayers are def. on the way and I will pray for her good health and return to home as soon as possible!!
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OH!!! No!! I'm not hearing this! I'm terribly sorry that Kia and you are having to go thru all of this.:( My prayers are def. on the way and I will pray for her good health and return to home as soon as possible!!
Prayers and hugs to you, Kim...so scary when this happens, one of my former kitties had a bad reaction to regular inoculations which turned out to be anaphalactic shock from over medication - it is so scary, and I know how helpless you must feel.
It is so goo dyou were there to get her emergency help. Hugs and headbonkies and prayers for a fast recovery
How terrifying! As said many times before, you did a great job keeping it together for dear Kia.
Hugs to you and Kia and prayers for a swift recovery.
Stephanie, Brian, and Bailey
I can't believe what I'm reading:( I'm here in tears hoping that by the time I got to the end of this thread there would be some good news. Has anyone heard from Kim yet?
Please god..... let this sweet girl be ok.
I'll be thinking about you both all day, please update us when you can.
{{{Hugs}}} and prayers.
Anna & the kids
Dear Kimmy & Kia...
My thoughts and prayers are with you both. If you need anything, let me know.
{{huggs}}
Please keep us uppie-dated when you can.
Any news on Kia? I'm going to be gone this weekend, and I'll be thinking about her the whole time! :(
Thank you all. I put an update in the first post.
*HUGS*
bless you all.
*bump* You are all posting when I am! *hugs*
When I went to bed last night and as soon as I got up, my thoughts and prayers were on Kia and you, Kim! I know how serious this is and I am very afraid for Kia. Your quick action will be the key in the results of this scary situation. You are not to blame, don't even think it. My heart and prayers are with you.
Please update as soon as you can. We are all nervously awaiting word.
Edit*
Ok, I just read your report and it is sounding good. However, please watch Kia closely for the next few weeks. I hope she has a full recovery.
You are not to blame! The shot can be dangerous in some cases and there is no way to tell for sure whether your furbaby will react adversely. It is not given to dogs with dehabilitating diseases (like in liver -d, it causes the immune system to go crazy, according to some reports), but Kia is a healthy pup and there was no indication of a possible problem.
Hugs to you both and GET WELL quick, Kia!!!
I'm glad to hear she's alert & walking around, I was so worried. I truly hope she gets to come home with you tonight.
Kim, don't blame yourself, it's not your fault.
Give her tons of kisses from me!
Glad to hear she's doing some better! Hopefully she will get to come home soon. And please, don't blame yourself!
Oh, Kim, I just read your update. I'm so glad Kia is up and about this morning! That's good news!!! :) I do hope she can come home to you tonight.
As for the Sentinel vs Heartguard vs Pro Heart 6, I guess it is all a matter of opinion. My vet won't give the six month shot as he isn't sold on it yet. In fact, he only prescribes Heartguard. I had even asked about the shot a while back for convenience as much as anything. I'm assuming Sentinel is also a monthly dosage, but I know nothing about it. Given that there have been incidents, similar to Kia's, with the Pro Heart 6, I'm glad that my vet was steering clear of it and not offering it as an option. Many dogs do fine on it, but there is that small % that don't do well and that's enough to keep me away from it at all cost! But you didn't know, and you can't beat yourself up about that! Now, you do, and you will have the opportunity to love your girl for many years to come! :) You are both very lucky.
Kia and you are in my prayers and will continue to be.
Note to Kim,
Do not blame yourself. You are not a vet and I'm sure you do not keep up with all the bad publicity on certain animal drugs. I would not have known about the problem with PH6 if it weren't for the liver-d board and another pet board who brought my attention to the seriousness of adverse reactions to this shot. Srdogs is also warning about it. It could have happened to any one of us.
It is like adverse reactions to Rimadyl. It doesn't happen to every dog, but it does happen to more than we know. After doing research on Killian's medical records, it seems that Rimadyl may have had a helping hand in causing his liver disease. Now I refuse to give any dog of mine (or foster) the drug. When Shiloh was given just a few pills after surgery, I told the vet she will have to take Ascriptin, there's no way she was going to get Rimadyl unless her quality of life was in question.
HUGS to you and Kia and DO NOT blame yourself. It is not your fault!!!!!
Thanks everyone. I realize I couldn't of known, but I can't believe I couldn't remember if she had had a shot or the heartgard chewie.
I just feel stupid. :(
I'll try not to blame myself. :) *hugs* ahhhhh I don't want to be here at work.
Kimmy,
It's not your fault, so stop blaming yourself. Kia is in very good hands right now. Like I said last night, if anything happens, they'll be there for her.
You didn't do anything wrong!! I'm going to call you once I post this to see how things are going. Cheer up, honey. Kia will be home before you know it.
[[[[[hugs]]]]]]
Kim, I'm so sorry that this happened to poor Kia! I hope that she recovers quickly. It sounds like you got her the care she needed right away. Get better soon, Kia! We're all thinking of you!
Kim...I am searching madly for the update, however, it sounds promising.
My thoughts are with you...
Oh Kimmy! I just got a chance to check up on Pet Talk and found your post! I am in tears now and Draker is exfoliating my face trying to comfort me :D
I am so glad to hear that Kia is doing better. The poor baby! So lucky you were at home to rush her to the vet. You are not to blame. Please don't be so hard on yourself. Focus all your energy on Kia now.
Please keep us updated as things progress. You are both in my thoughts. Hugs to you!
It's not your fault, not your fualt at all ::hugs::
Kia will be ok, I know she will.
Ash
Oh, Kim--it's not your fault!!
I can't believe this--sweet Kia!! It sounds as though she is getting better though, I'll keep praying for her and for you.
You did a wonderful job in the emergency--thank God you were home. I probably would have been on the floor in tears not having a clue what to do--you are her hero.
Feel better sweet Kia, so you can come home to your worried Mommy!!!!
{{{{{{Kia and Kim}}}}}}
Love,
Emily, Kito, Abbey and Riley
Kim, I'm glad that Kia is doing well and hope she will be able to be back home with you tonight.
Kim,
OMG, I am so sorry for Kia and you. The vet's is the BEST place for her to be. She is young, and healthy, she will pull through this. Please keep us updated as we go into the weekend.
Tons of prayers and hugs to you,
Johanna
OMG! <Line'z BUSY> nutz! <dials God again> <*ringz*>
Hellow, GOD!?
Hi God ~
Sorrie fur bein a lil frantik - but we'z all wurried sick
down here onna Big Durt Ball - bout our buddie lil Kia!!
Wundur iffin You'd mynd pushin Kia up on Top uvva Prayer List?
Jest till she getz offa kritikal list?
Gunna be a lotta Prayerz commin Up There fur a while; and we'z gonna
keep da Prayer Kandilz burnin 24/7 - till Ya tell us she'z OK!
An paLeez dont furget Miz Kimmy - she needs ta fell a GodsPaw :) round her
shoulderz today, too. Tell her that You're werkin onna Kia case full tyme.
Dear God - You got da Best White Coatz werkin on her case, don'cha?
Iffin da Hoppsbittel iz wurried bout munnie - we'z thinkin in stedda gettin prezints fur Kia's Birfday, we kuld all take up a kollekshun an help pay fur gettin her all Fixz'd Up. We'd all like ta Help - an dont wunt Miz Kimmy ta be afraid ta go fur whutebber it takes on account of not havin enuff munnie!
THANKz fur Your Help last nite, God!
'Preciate Your helpin Kimmy get Kia to da White Coatz in tyme!!
We'll be krossin Pawz & Klawz, God.
Let us knowe iffin we kan do anyfin else.
Thankz, God!
/s/ da Prayer Pups
Kimmy, I am so glad to hear Kia is doing better and I hope she can get to come home to you tonight. I agree with everyone else that you should stop beating yourself up about what happened, it really isn`t your fault!
Keeping both Kia and you in my prayers.
Love and hugs all round.
Chris
First off Kimmy it isn't your fault! You were only doing what you thought was best for her!
Kia will forgive you no worries!
Give her a hug from us!
OMG!! Kim.....im soooooo sry to hear about Kia. Please don't blame yourself.... All of us here are goin to be prayin to ya...cause we love that blue-eyed girl of yours.
Im gald to hear that she is doin a lil' better though....she is though I know she can get better~!
We miss you Kia~!!!! Lots of LOVE~!!
Casey
Asia, Alex,
Ashes, Meche, Kayro
n' Baby
I also was telling her on the phone last night it's not her fault. Neither she nor her normal vet would have known Kia would have a horrible reaction to this shot.
Right now, the best vets in the state of Michigan (and student interns :eek: ) are looking after her. Usually when an animal gets sent to the MSU vet place, the animal is in REALLY bad shape, since it's above the level of care any normal vet clinic can provide. When I found out about Kia going to MSU I was really scared for her and Kim, honestly.
I was saddened by my little friend Kia being in such bad shape, and also quite worried about Kimmy, since she said it'll be an $800-1,200 MINIMUM bill for this, and they don't take payments, so she'll be maxing out her credit card just to pay for this. :(
~Andy
Bless you Prayer Pups! *tears up*
Bless all of you.
I'm going to call the doctors. I can't sit here and wait. I want to be with Kia if I can.
*hugs to all!! *
Thanks, Staci, for drawing my attention to this thread. Wasn't on the computer much yesterday so I didn't know what was happening with Kia.
Oh, Kimmy, I am so sorry that this happened to Kia. I too am crying because I know I would be out of my mind with worry and guilt if it was one of my babies.
But like all the others, I am going to say don't blame yourself. With all the stuff on the market and the shots they give our pets today, it is hard to remember what is what and what they have had and what is reported to have negative results.
I had read on a thread here that Pro-heart was a ? for some vets. It was what we had been using on our dogs but when we got Jack with all his problems I asked our vet about it. She said that she had never had a dog have a problem with it. That is was usually very young pups and old senior dogs that sometimes had problems. So Jack had pro-heart too - as did all of our others.
So please don't blame yourself Kimmy. It's like when you have a kid and the dr. gives a prescription for something and your child reacts. You think you should have known better but there is no way to know what is safe for every person, animal. And my dad took penicillin for years but then became allergic to it. It's just one of those unknowns that we all have in life.
The think to be proud of is you were able to get her help so quickly. Fear can paralyze and tears can keep us from doing what we need to do as quickly as we need to do it. You did a great job in getting Kia help quickly and that is what is important.
Kia and you will be in our prayers as she continues to heal. And I will give each of our dogs an extra hug thinking of Kia as I do so!
Just got off the phone with Dr. Eifler.
Kia is sitting up and so they moved her to a larger kennel.
The doctor had just gotten off the phone with ProHeart and they said that bloody diareha and seizures is a known side effect but this is the first time they've heard of an animal having both.
Dr. Eifler said she was surprised that ProHeart admitted to the knowledge of the side effects. She said not very many companies would come forward and say such a thing.
Kia's still has the bloody diareha and said that she'd probably do well to stay another night under observation but that I can take her home if I want too.
I told her that it mattered on cost. She said she'd have the bill done up and that I can come visit Kia at any time (I'm leaving soon)
If I did take Kia home and I needed to take her back to the hospital, Dr. Eifler said she wouldn't charge me for bringing her back.
I don't know..... should I take her home? I miss her so much.
Oh... and they have her on a Pepto like antibiotic.
well what is the cost now, and how much more is another night? it is a hard decision, go visit her and then maybe you can decide there?Quote:
I don't know..... should I take her home? I miss her so much.
Oh, Kimmy, I am so sorry for everything that you and Kia and Andy have gone through. You are in my thoughts and prayers. If you need anything, just let us know. As Phred said, I'm sure there are plenty here who will be willing to help you out financially. Just provide us the address and I'm sure some funds will come in. Kia, keep up the fight. You are young and strong and I'm sure you can't wait to get back home with your mommy. God Bless you all!!!!
that's a very tough choice--on one hand, you want her to stay where she can be monitered by doctors, and on another you want your sweet baby home with you.
I'm sorry I can't help you on that one, but maybe once you see her you can make up your mind.
I am shocked that the company readily admitted to the side affects also, but I am glad that they did.
Please let us know what you decide.
Prayer pups--you 2 are the BEST!!!!
I would love to help out in any way possible.
You must NOT blame yourself, Kimmy!! You are a wonderful fur Mom and you could not have forseen the terrible reaction Kia had!!:( The important thing right now is that Kia is turning the corner and doing so much better!! Prayers continue for Kia's full and quick recovery. Perhaps another day at the vet's would be prudent, and if so, remember, in EVERY way, that we are here for you!! Love and hugs to you Kimmy...Hang in there and DON'T BLAME YOURSELF!!
Mugsy the darling that she is, is writing a letter to a vet that is running a sort of awareness campaign about ProHeart 6.
:)
How far away is the vet? That would be important fact to me in making the decision as to whether to bring her home today or tomorrow (also...can you get her out on a Saturday?)
Roughly 10 minutes away Sara. :)
Oh Kim - please don't blame yourself sweetheart - remember things happen. I'm keeping you and precious Kia in my thoughts and a bit like our 'famous prayer pups' have lit a candle - all thoughts and love across the miles.
Lynne
Please don't blame yourself. In fact, I am really wondering why this medication is still on the market and available, if it is known there are serious side effects.
For me, I think I would want to know that Kia is 100% out of the woods before I brought her home.
But that is just my opinion and you will know exactly what to do when you see her.
Kim,
The letter is written to the concerned vet and a rather pointed letter has been written and sent to ProHeart6. I wasn't very nice (imagine that).
Molly
Kim is bringing her home. She isn't very far from the vet. I think that is the best for Kia. I am wondering if some of the diahhrea isn't being caused by the stress of being in an unfamiliar place and not feeling well and not having Mommy around.
Best of luck Kim...call us when you know something.
I can't believe I am just finding out about this...I didn't get on PT last night, and my mom called me a little bit ago at work to tell me.
You and Kia will be in our prayers. I'm sure Kia will recover wuickly, she is a strong healthy girl. And as everyone else has said, don't blame yourself. Medicines/vacations can be such a life saving thing that is hard to remember that there can be side effects or a downside. You had no way of knowing this would happne and you were doing what was best for your baby...making sure she didn't get heartworm.
Try to stay positive...you were there when it happened, you got her treatment quickly and you are close to MSU. Their vet programs is one of the best. I'm sure Kia is getting the best care possible.