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Originally posted by Aspen and Misty
Nope, I'm never going to have another dog, ever. And I'm NOT getitng married and I'm NOT having kids. I'm going to live my life with me and Mr. Booda, Chewy's Hedgehog.
Ash
":rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: "
i'm sorry your not keeping sheeba.
:( :( sorry bout Chewy.....
I have to say I am a little confused. It was not her decision, unfortunately she is young, and still lives with her parents, and ultimately, these decisions are theirs.
I don't think Sheeba will have the same "fate" as Chewy, they are returning her to the pound, and she will find a wonderful forever home, maybe without men or whatever.
Ashley~~
when you do consider another dog, maybe an older one who you are sure has no issues, and who can get along with your whole family.
Good luck.
I'm sorry about the whole thing. Josie doesn't like men either. She's fine if they come in the house and she can smell them and all, but if we're walking she'll howl and everything at them, and she's almost been hit by golf clubs and all cause of what she does. We were at my cottage and she ran at this guy barking and he was playing golf, and he raised it up to hit her, and I was screaming for him not to while running across the feild lol. My aunt said 'Oh, your not suppost to do that!' Riiight. Anyway, I just keep her away/on leash. Anywho I guess it's good she'll get another chance anyway. :[
lol @ the golf thing :D
ash, maybe if you take sheeba to classes and you bring along your brother? that way, she'll be obediant to men also. sorry if this won't work...i've never been to puppy classes before :rolleyes:
When we got Simba, he bit my mom twice. He'd growl when she came near or when anyone beside me came near. He doesn't like men either. But you know what? Did that stop us from keeping him? No. WE worked with him. WE got him over it. Let your brothers feed her, let your brothers walk her, let your brothers give her treats. That's what we did with my mom and Simba. A dog is not something to just get and then throw away the next day. You know how confused she's going to be? And I know it's not all your fault, maybe you should let your parents read theese posts instead of you and taking them personally. Maybe befor getting another dog, go to the pound 3 or more times a week like i do, looking petting, hugging, playing with all of the dogs. Maybe if you're old enough you could volunteer there and help out with them too. That way you'll get to know the dog befor getting it and having to take it back the next day.
I agree with KayAnn...
I do also--we worked with a neighbor who was willing to help out with Kito's "man hating" He bought treats and kept them at his apt, and every time he saw us out, he came and gave some to Kito--at first he didn't want them, but by the time they moved out, he was willingly going up to him and sitting for him and taking the treats. As for my dad, we did the same thing, but Kito only sees him about once a month--but he doesn't bark at him anymore!! Our patience really paid off in that situation.Quote:
Originally posted by slleipnir
I agree with KayAnn...
Volunteering at the shelter is a great idea--look into it!!
I know that you are hurting from your parents deciding that Chewey had to be PTS, but it seems to me that with this new dog coming into your life with issues, you are just giving up way too soon. Her problem is SO fixable with the right training. It sounds like she just had a bit of baggage, and you and your family added to that by inviting her into your life, and giving up so quickly. Having a label of "not good with men" does not look good to people adopting full grown dogs. That might be the ticket that will end up causing her ultimate euthinasia by the shelter. Honestly, when you mix in her breeding, with the fact that she's full grown or nearly full grown, and then having a label such as "not good with men" placed on her, her odds are not likely that she'll get adopted in my opinion and experience with shelters. I am not sure how the shelters work in your state, but here in Michigan, she'd be PTS if she was returned with "not good with men" labeling.
I think it's best that you don't get another dog until you are out of your house at least. It's not fair for the dog. You can't expect them to be the perfect companion right after they come out of a shelter, especially when they had an abusive background, which many shelter dogs unfortunately have. I feel very sorry for Chewey and for that poor dog who was adopted, given a home, given some time to bond, and then taken back to the shelter because of a very fixable problem.
Please don't ask your parents to get another dog. Think about the dog. That's two now that you and/or your family have given up on, and too soon in my opinion. Refraining from getting another dog until you are grown up would be a mature thing to do. Please don't get another one.
Sorry for sounding harsh, but in my opinion, giving up on Sheeba so soon was just terrible and I truly feel sorry for the dog. It hurts to hear of dogs going through things like this.
Lolly also had men issues when I got her. Who could blame her after being abused for 5 years by some disgruntled lunatic. Anyway, I was fortunate to have a sweet male neighbor and a sweet dad who helped Lolly understand that men are not a bad thing (well MOST men anyway, hehe). A little work, love, and patience can go a long way. She still doens't completely love strangers but she allows them to pet her and does absolutely fine :)
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Originally posted by aly
Didn't the shelter require all people in the family to meet the dog before adopting? I would suggest your brothers going with you next time so that this won't happen again. Its very confusing for dogs to get adopted then go back to the shelter so fast. Please tell the shelter everything that happened so that they will have the information and perhaps not send her home to young kids.
I was going to make this comment but you beat me to the punch! I too am wondering why the whole family did not go to help pick out a dog. When we were looking for dogs, we took Dylan and all of us went! If the dog will be a family dog, the family must go and make the decision as a whole.
Dogs can sense fear also, she may have knew your brother way afraid.
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Originally posted by Aspen and Misty
Thats the weird thing. we did all go and see her? And she was sooo sweet to the whole family?? I don't understand? My little brother went with us and my dad went with us, my older brother didn't because he had to work but my sister and my mom were there, she did get to meet the whole family but one person?
Lalania- I thought the same thing to, but I found that getting Sheeba really helped me, although I will never get over the loss of my sweet baby, I loved him, even though you might think diffrently. I know many of you are upset about my decision, but I really did try to convince my parents so please do not yell at me, the only thing I could of done was set him loose and hoped he didn't get hit or picked up by the wrong person. Today, I felt I needed a new dog in my life and that was my decision and I made one that best fitted me. Although, the decsion for you might be not to look at another dog for a couple of weeks I really felt that I needed something there for me while I was hurting and she has helped me.
Ash
I don't get it??? In some posts you talk as if your parents are divorced? For instance you mentioned you stayed over at your dad place with your sister. Do you have a step dad or something who you call "dad"? :confused:
So...what's happening with Sheeba?
I have to agree with the others. I think you need to have your dad/brothers spend some time giving Sheeba some treats and things like that. The way I see it is, she was in a shelter, which means she was abandoned, so if you were to give her back right away, wouldn't she be hurt? She is just a puppy and won't understand what is going on. And as KayAnn said before, she will probably be very confused. Please, I beg of you, don't give up so soon on her. Or if you do, I agree with Adoremydogs, I wouldn't consider another dog for a long time. Best of luck to you on your decision. I hope it is the right one. (And if this is about your parents, I think you should show them these posts. I mean, look how many people are against giving Sheeba back.)
P.S.--I'm not trying to be mean, and nobody else is either, so please do not think that.
Ash, animals, like people, feel and react to stressful environments. Like chewy, any dog coming into a home (or two homes?) where there is dissagreement or any tense vibes will absorb these and they will become part of their personalities. You mentioned a divorce, which is very hard on a family (especially when there are several children involved), and that includes the animals. As much as you want a dog for your needs, consider the dogs needs as well. My heart goes out to you to be in this situation. But my heart goes out to the animals that get PTS because they don't fit in even more. It's hard to have a functional animal in a dysfunctional family. If you and your family are willing to accept that possiblity, maybe (as others have said) you could go together to obedience school, and work lovingly with the dog. Then you can make it work!! Good luck!!
When a dog is adopted, they go through a "honeymoon period" where they are adjusting to the new environment. It lasts about 2 weeks until they finally realize they live there and you will see a change it behavior - it could be for the better or for the worse. I think with consistent training and work with Sheeba, she would settle down and learn some manners. She needs to have a firm, loving hand and know a routine. I honestly don't feel it would take too much time to turn her around. She's still so young and as you say, she's sweet. I don't think she's been given enough adjustment time.
Ash,
I was just wondering, why did you have to give Tiffany up after 2 months.
Katz
Who is Tiffany?
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Originally posted by wolf_Q
Who is Tiffany?
what i was wondering.
p.s. love the sig.
I searched and I believe this is the dog she's talking about...but I didn't know she took the dog in for 2 months? Wasn't there another dog her friend had also that wasn't taking care of the dog? :confused:
p.s. thanks about my siggy :)
Ash,
Did you ever ask Mike if you could have her back?
Katz
I have to agree with what al ot of others have already said...
First, very few dogs are coming to come perfectly trained, no issues. Doesn't matter if you get a puppy, a rescue, whatever, if a perfectly trained dog will have to adjust to a new situation.
Second, sad though it is, many dogs in shelters are afriad of men. Many dogs end up in shlters becuase they have been beaten, neglected, or abused, and often (though not always) by men. That doesn't not mean all men are bad. As we all know there are wonderful dog loving men :) This is also ap roblem that can be overcame. People have given many examples of that and I can add my own. Two of my mom's dogs have seemed to have issues with men Dazzi and Snoopy. With exposure to my Dad, Ralph, Brian and other men at the Dog Park etc, they are doing mch better...although they both do still shy away sometimes. It is something that they continue to work on.
Third, do not take everything personally. Your parents do have the ultimate say and there isn't anything you can do about that until you move out of their house. So, if this doesn't work with Sheeba, I wold be hesitant to get another dog. Enjoy Teddy and Honey, and once you move out and once you finish college ( or have housing allowing a dog, if that is the route you take) then get the dog YOU want and train it the way YOU want. Then it is your responsiblity and your resonsibilty alone. Yours to make decisions on and have th final say on. As Leslie said, that is the mature thing to do.
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Originally posted by Cincy'sMom
I have to agree with what al ot of others have already said...
First, very few dogs are coming to come perfectly trained, no issues. Doesn't matter if you get a puppy, a rescue, whatever, if a perfectly trained dog will have to adjust to a new situation.
Second, sad though it is, many dogs in shelters are afriad of men. Many dogs end up in shlters becuase they have been beaten, neglected, or abused, and often (though not always) by men. That doesn't not mean all men are bad. As we all know there are wonderful dog loving men :) This is also ap roblem that can be overcame. People have given many examples of that and I can add my own. Two of my mom's dogs have seemed to have issues with men Dazzi and Snoopy. With exposure to my Dad, Ralph, Brian and other men at the Dog Park etc, they are doing mch better...although they both do still shy away sometimes. It is something that they continue to work on.
Third, do not take everything personally. Your parents do have the ultimate say and there isn't anything you can do about that until you move out of their house. So, if this doesn't work with Sheeba, I wold be hesitant to get another dog. Enjoy Teddy and Honey, and once you move out and once you finish college ( or have housing allowing a dog, if that is the route you take) then get the dog YOU want and train it the way YOU want. Then it is your responsiblity and your resonsibilty alone. Yours to make decisions on and have th final say on. As Leslie said, that is the mature thing to do.
Also, the suggestion of volunteering at the shelter is very good. There are things you might learn there, too!! Good luck, Ash!
Oh, so very true. Millie HATED men at 1st too. All it took was TIME. And she's 3+ years old!Quote:
Originally posted by aly
When a dog is adopted, they go through a "honeymoon period" where they are adjusting to the new environment. It lasts about 2 weeks until they finally realize they live there and you will see a change it behavior - it could be for the better or for the worse. I think with consistent training and work with Sheeba, she would settle down and learn some manners. She needs to have a firm, loving hand and know a routine. I honestly don't feel it would take too much time to turn her around. She's still so young and as you say, she's sweet. I don't think she's been given enough adjustment time.
Ash, just please stop getting these dogs and then getting rid of them when they don't work out. It's just not FAIR.
How would you like to live in an orphanage, get adopted and get sent back all in one week because you were AFRAID of your new dad???? I'm sorry, but your family doesn't need a dog. None of you are responsible enough for it. :mad:
I havn't read all the post, so please forgive me if I say anythign that was already said.
I am so proud of my Sheeba baby!!!!! She has offically fallin in lvoe with my dad and sad to say I think she likes him more then me :D Which is great that way my dad will never feel like he needs to worry about her. now of course Sheeba is my dog and because she does have some doggie issues will probly be an only dog most of her life, but I am totallty fine with that. Because she has fallin in love with my dad and we have talked it thourgh we now have a method of how to make her fall in love with the men in my family. Pretty much it consit of my dad or the man haveing treats in there pocket and any tiem they see Sheeba, they give her a treat. So men are now the people who give her treats and she follows them around like a little puppy dog. :D So adorable! i totally agree Micki! It isn't far to Sheeba to have to go back to the shelter because of somethign that happned on her first day, I mean come on this was her first day. Sunday has really changed our minds about her, we really think that she will be able to love men and all people! I can't wait to begin to work with her. I am going to call my trainer this afternoon and see what she thinks I should do and maybe she can give me some tips. I don't think she is agressive at all, I really do think that she is a huggable pup! LOl it was soooo funny. When yo uturn off all the lights and get into bed Sheeba turns into one big guard dog :D. My brother came home one night around 1 and as soon as he began to mess with the door Sheeba growled and lunged at the door and refused ot let him in (only does this at night when our bedtime things go on, liek turning off of the lights and getting into bed). Of course I pulled her away and my brother came in and once she relized I knew him she settled down right away! She is sooo protective of me, we really have seemed to click! Me and my dad have talked about it and we have deced to give her some time to settle in to the home and then see how she acts, the only last person to ask about it is my brother, who I'm afreid will say no because of the whole door incedent thing last night. And if he says no and says he is really really uncomfortble around her I'm afried my dad will make me take her back so I'm going to look on the interent for things that say how bad it is to give a dog back to the shelter and how it scars them and stuff (I know I've read it soemwhere). Also, I'm going to bring up the point that it only took her less then an hour of my dad carriing around treats to convince her he is nice. So I am going to try to convince them, wish me luck! I am goign to show him all the post on here about your guy's dogs, I know it will help convince him! But I do want to state one more time! If my brother says he is really uncomftble around her my dad will most likly make me give her up. And I don't think I will be getting another dog, I agree 100% with some of adoremydog's state ments. I don't think my parents are willing to work with a dog and I don't feel it is fare for another dog to coem into a home who is not willing to help it adjust, it is a big change for a dog and they need that time to get used to the people and place, and sometime, they need a little bit of help getting though some old habbits, but when your gettign an older dog you just have to learn to accept it, and I don't think my parents will exept that fact that dogs come with baggage, just like people.
tomkatzid- Tiffy was not my dog. I was puppy sitting :D and of course I asked for her back, but Mike acctaulyl gave her away, we are prayign to a good home!!
Well I'm going to take her into the backyard and play around and take some pictures of her!
Ash
ps: I almost left pet talk, afried of what you guys could have said about me on the threads and I was really worried abotu Checking to see what you have said here. But I should have known you guys always pull through for me and I will always be gratefull for you! Thank you so much for givign me suggestions, I will take them and use them and you gusy have been such a help!
pss: Adore my dogs- I just wanted to let you know, your post might have been harsh, but most of it was the truth.
Im so glad!:D I really hope you can keep her! she sounds like such an angel:) evdn if she isnt to sure about guys. lol
GOOD LUCK!
:D
post the pics as soon as you get em!:)
Oh that is such great news! I am so happy for you, Sheeba, and your family for making the whole situation work out! I hope your brother will begin to trust Sheeba, and that Sheeba will trust him! Good luck! :D
Now jut remeber this is a I might be able to keep her still. Her personality is such a big factor in this and she has the best personalitly. I've also been tryign to make my prents understnad that older dogs come with baggage and it just takes a couple of weeks for them to relize they are safe and in there new forever home.
LOL
Ash
BTW- She really does like my dad lol (more to come!)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...b/fc8ed1f8.jpg
Yes she IS sitting on him, LOL
Ash
omg, i am SO happy for you :D and i'm glad you didn't leave pet talk. :) it's good you are giving her another chance, it was worth it, wasn't it? :)
i hope sheeba does something that will win your bro's trust :p i can't wait to see the pics. she is adorable and sounds like a big sweetie! congrats :D
I'm with Primabella! So glad you decided not to leave PT! I wish you all best with Sheeba! With your positive attitude, she'll have the best chance at success! I think if your brother treats her with love and acceptance and gives her a chance to open up her heart to him, she'll be just fine! Paws crossed! She's such a sweetheart and I know how happy she's making you!!! {{{hugs}}}
I'm so glad you decided to stay at Pet Talk:) And your not leaving it just wouldn't be the same here with out you. I really hope that everything works out with Sheeba and that you can keep her.:) She is a really beautiful dog and she looks like a real sweetheart! Sheeba and you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
Ash, I am so glad you are not leaving Pet Talk.
Lots of kisses to Sheeba, and hope that she
is able to become a happy member of your family.
Ash--she is sooo sweet!!
I'm glad things are turning around for her, and it looks like she looves your dad, and I'm sure your brother will not be too far in the future. Kito liked my dad first, and then my brother, I don't know why, but it took him a little longer to trust my brother.
I can't wait to meet her!!!!!
Hey Ash - So glad you have decided to stay and also so glad that Sheeba may work out. They do change a lot while they are adjusting so just be patient and I'm sure your brother will come around.
I would sign her up for obedience ASAP. She needs to be socialized around other dogs and as many people as possible. Since we have no idea about her history, you should just assume she's had no socialization and start with a clean slate.
Give your Sheeba a hug for me, and an extra treat. Signing her up for obedience classes ASAP will be fun for you and Sheeba, and good socialization as well. She was just being a good protector, and that she welcomed your brother once she knew it was him is a good sign! She's still getting to know the family, but she IS a shepherd mix, I believe from those ears, and they are known to be good family protectors! :) I am glad she is a cuddlebug, too! Is she a leaner? :)
Ash, please give Sheeba a big old {{{HUG}}} from me!!
I'm very glad you decided not to leave Pet Talk, and I'm really hoping things will work out with Sheeba! :)
*Please* get her enrolled in an obedience class--you won't regret it, I promise! It's fun! :)
I just saw this thread now. Congrats on your new pup, although I am awfully heartbroken about what happened to Chewy. :( Your new pup is Zeke the 2nd! Looks just like him!!
Hope you keep her. Good luck.
This thread is 6 pages long and I missed it? Where have I been???
Congratulations on Sheeba and I'm very sorry about Chewy. :(
I don't know where I've been either!Quote:
Originally posted by Tanya&Fritz
This thread is 6 pages long and I missed it? Where have I been???
Anyways...
Sheeba is the cutest (I love her colors;)). I sure hope you get to keep her & that she gets along with your entire family. Good luck to all of you! And we MUST have more pictures, like that one of her on your dad:D