My Pappy would roll over in his grave, but Obama for sure.
I don't like anything that's ever come out of Romney's mouth.
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My Pappy would roll over in his grave, but Obama for sure.
I don't like anything that's ever come out of Romney's mouth.
Doesn't really matter who I vote for, Kansas ALWAYS goes Rebuplican. :rolleyes:
I have little hope for things getting better no matter who is in the Oval office. The dems controlled the comgress for the first half of Obama's term: nothing got done. The Repubs controlled it the second half: nothing got done. Besides no matter who loses: it is all hurricane, Sandy's fault. It will mess up voting somehow. ;):love:
Can't you just imagine the chaos if Sandy struck next week? Does anyone know if a natural disaster ever disrupted an Election Day? I wonder how that situation would be handled? Of course if I was really all that curious about it, I'm sure Google could give me the answer. :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
Have you ever WATCHED fox news? I would assume you have, but you apparently don't pay much attention to the way Bill O'Reilly reacts the minute you go against him, yelling over the person until he wants to "End" the segment. How about the way Christine O'Donnell walked off the Pearce Morgan interview when he asked her a question she didn't like? Everyone has the heir that they are always right on FOX. Same with MSNBC, so stop acting all high and mighty. Radical Republicans are NO better in the way they act than the way Rad. Democrats react when their views are put down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
Gotta love hypocrisy.
I am partial to Chris Matthews foaming at the mouth and spitting on his side of the tube.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alysser
Whoever wins? One side will be spitting, cursing and name calling.
The best part is AFTER the election when people are acting out like the losers they are on television.
Oh I know they all act like idiots. Well most of 'em..even the Democrats. It's always refreshing to see some that don't yell their opinions in the face of their guests, or yell until the segment ends, or get mad and have a temper tantrum on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
It just amazes me how one-sided his post was. You can't argue with a democrat...right but I forgot everyone on FOX is so calm.
LOL, that is the best part of the election.:D
Please try. I am interested to understand your thought process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
You should try also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
First, thank you for your service to our country. I mean that sincerely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
However, I do believe the Pentagon requested additional Battleships.
Can you be more specific. Platitudes are not conducive to an intelligent exchange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13
Didn't you vote for Hope and Change four years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by redbird
Sorry MOFF, I couldn't resist.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
HeeHee!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alysser
I do not watch Fox news or any other television news cast for that matter. I read several respected publications and discriminate as to which reports I find credible or not. If you find my attempts of posting in an adult manner "all high and mighty" that is regrettable. I know of no other way to communicate my thoughts. Lastly, I for one do not love hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alysser
Speaking strictly in terms of statistics, Romney is gaining in popular vote against Obama, but Obama is predicted to take most of the major electoral college states, so he still holds the lead in those terms. The election will probably end up being where Romney wins the popular vote, but Obama wins the electoral college votes, and thus wins the election.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/...ectoral-map?hw is my reference for this.
Personally, I don't necessarily like either choice. They both have major flaws.
The Pentagon hasn't requested battleships in decades, and the ones they did have were forced on them by Congress under Reagan to create the 600 ship Navy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
Next?
Congress's meddling combined with BuShips ineptitude wastes billion annually. Before they spend another dime they should fix the procurement system.
This is an adult manner?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
LMFAO!
It just doesn't get much more juvenile than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
The Chicago Tribune endorsed Barack Obama. I haven't read the whole endorsement, though. This is only the second time in the Trib's history that they have endorsed the Democratic candidate. The first time was also Obama.
I'm just wondering to which degree hurricane Sandy will affect the election? I mean, with all this damage at the East Coast, power outage and everything and all these people who lost their homes, it would surprise me if the infrastructure could be restored right on time to carry out the election at all? :confused:
We received the Sunday Des Moines Register & there was a 5 page endorsement on Mitt & his family. There are 3 other major papers in Iowa that are supporting Mitt. We thought that next Sunday there would be an endorsement on Obama & his family too. It has been 40 years since the Register has supported a Republican candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
It is going to be a nip & tuck race.
Yes I did and thank god we did get some hope and change, our economy was on the brink of a full depression thanks to president Bush, considering how you started your side of this debate I wouldn't think you deserve any response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
You go, Mom!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
Thanks daughter!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alysser
Please, isn't it shameful enough for Obama to blame George Bush for his failures. For you to blame Reagan is absurd. If you would like to dig up historic dirt, try remembering the presidential DNA of Bill Clinton and lying under oath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
It's far from absurd to bring up Reagan, particularly in the context mentioned.
Pres. Reagan and Sec.Def wanted a 600 ship Navy.
The US didn't have the yard construction assets to make it reality, however, there were 4 perfectly good Iowa class hulls available sitting in mothballs.
Solution? Upgrade and restore the Iowas to service, giving the US the number of hulls Pres. Reagan wanted in the fleet. The Navy, however, did not want them. They are far too manpower intensive for their taste, but they were forced on the Navy by Congress and others.
You mentioned Battleships.
The only battleships in service since WW2 are the 4 Iowas.
That's their tale, Pres. Reagan was directly involved.
Please, converse as an adult and stop trying to twist statements. If you can't discuss issues in an adult manner without deriding people who disagree with you and can easily back up those disagreements with proof in the form of facts, maybe you shouldn't be in this discussion?
What you got was a 16+ TRILLION dollar deficit with nothing to show for it. The Democratic congress railroaded Bush into the unwise decision of relaxing the need for a good credit rating to qualify for a mortgage. When they all defaulted was when the recession started and was the cause of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
My first post was a list of observations, not debate.
If you would like to debate I will entertain your wishes. But I expect you will respond by saying "I wouldn't think you deserve any response". This strategy gives you a fealing of taking the moral high ground while avoiding any serious discussion. A tried and true liberal strategy.
Please show me where I derided you. I merely disagreed. Are you overly sensitive to disagreement?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Your first post in this thread was at once juvenile and derisive. After that, all posts are viewed in that light.
You also automatically assume that anyone who doesn't agree with your jingostic pap is a liberal.
Again, false, and to assume so (as you do repeatedly in your responses) is completely juvenile. I think you're missing the second hour of Savage Nation, so please, don't let us distract you.
Can you read your above sentence? How immature is this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
And no what I got was a president that slowed the recession and stopped an economic collapse, he saved wall street, he saved the auto industry, he ended the war in Iraq, he relaxed anti american sentiment around the world and he is on the verge of passing universal health care.
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Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
I'll have to conclude that you cannot show me where I derided you then.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
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Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
Is it so unfathomable that I may have wanted to apologize if I had indeed derided that poster? I will let you answer your own question as to how immature it is to want to maintain a civil exchange.Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
Hey Buddy_Lee --- did you actually vote in my poll or are you just using this thread to get up on your soapbox and spout off? Perhaps you should change "a little crabby", to "just a big old crab". :rolleyes:
Your first post was derisive to everyone who disagrees with you. It basically stated that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, and can't back up an argument but will instead run away in tears without discussing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddy_Lee
Quit being a condescending, smarmy fool.
Applause...applause!! Insulting women and people who disagree with you at once! Is "retard*" one of those names called?Quote:
Having a discussion with a Democrat is like having a discussion with your Ex-wife. If you say anything they disagree with you get cursed, called names (ignorant and bully are popular these days), then they run away in tears to plot your death.
One good thing about living in California - very few national political ads! But, and I can only speak for the radio, we are inundated with commericals for "initiatives". This baffles me. If you are going to elect people to govern - why all the initiatives? I totally do not trust any of the initiatives. I was once asked to sign a petition for a ballot initiative to change someone from having a defined benefit pension plan to a defined contribution pension plan. I replied I would sign it if the person could tell me the difference. They could not. They get paid for each signature they get! There is someone behind the initiative with a bunch of money who stands to personally gain from the initiative (in my non-aligned opinion!)
I was told when I registered to vote here eight years ago that if I did not register Republican the person doing the registration would not get paid. Haven't registered with a party since my first registration at 18 - not about to start now. Guess he didn't get paid!
*reference to Ann Coulter - extreme conservative "celebrity" who called the President of the United States a "retard" after the last debate.
I don't understand the voting system you have... do you really need to tell someone who (or what party) you vote for? Here, everybody get a voting card by snail mail, you bring that to the school where you vote, queue up and give it to the person sitting by one of several numbered tables (it says on your card which table you go to). Then you give the person your card, he/she finds you on a list, you get crossed off and you get your list with all the parties, then you go into a box and put your cross. Outside, you put that in a big box, and someone is watching you during the whole procedure. That's how we do it.
Yes we can register as democrat or republican so we can vote in those primaries, another words if you are a registered democrat you don't vote in the republican primaries which basically chooses who will run for president on the republican side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randi
What I don't understand is that you have to register as a Democrat or a Republican. Why should anyone know that?
You don't have to register any party affiliation if you don't want to - you just have to be registered to vote tho. I am registered as "independent", tho not of the Independent Party. It simply means I will vote for who I think will do the better job, and not feel obligated to vote as a Dem or Repub - just because I registered as one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randi
ETA: Just to clarify a little further.........For instance - even if I was registered as a Democrat, I don't have to vote for a Democratic candidate - I can still vote for whoever I choose.
Just a point - there are states with open primaries. Sometimes only one party has an open primary - which I believe is the case here in California. In Illinois it was all open primary. That means I do not have to be a member of the party in order to vote in the primary - but of course you can only vote in one primary! I would vote in whichever primary interested me.
Funny story with that...years ago my sister, who lived in Newark New Jersey was interested in the Republican primary. She asked for a Republican ballot at her polling place. Having never been asked for one before...they had a hard time finding one!
Randi, declaring a party means to get to vote in that party's election to decide who will be their candidate. In the primary there may be say ...five people who want to be the Republican candidate and four people who want to be the Democratic candidate. Rather than have all nine run against each other - the party holds a "primary" election to determine who will represent the party - one from each party. So it is a two step process.
Ahhh, I thought this was cute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojrth...feature=colike
Not everyone seems to be happy about the election! ;)
From what I read here, the entire voting system sounds a little confusing to me as well with these open primaries and everything. Here in Germany, it's pretty much the same as Randi described from Denmark, you don't have to register anywhere.