Thank you - and amen!!!:D
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Well everyday I took Princess out for a walk. We walked by Lincoln Road Mall, we went by the store where the owner has a little pom to say hi, then we went to McDs through the pick-up window, and ordered some Mcnuggets and vanilla sundae to eat. After we went by the nail salon to say hi to the owner's little maltese and given the day, I would get my nails done with Princess on my lap or in her own chair. After we went on Ocean Drive and she would attract people with her VIP wristband on her neck and her cuteness, while I handed out flyers for the club. Then back home we went.
Oh I never seen one doggy mess in the whole time I was in South Beach, the locals are pretty good about cleaning after their dogs, plus there's also police and stuff around to remind those who don't abide by the curb after your dog law.
Could of I gone the day without her? Sure. Could she of stayed home alone, sleeping? Sure. I don't know about you, but it seems a lot more fun for her to go out with me than being home alone for a couple of hours ;)
I don't know, maybe South Florida is just too animal-friendly for some. I saw many people on their bikes or walking with snakes on their necks. And I doubt it many people with phobias of snakes want to see that. I've seen everything from someone walking a cat, a small monkey, even a guy and his rooster. Meh, to me there's no such thing as too animal-friendly! Maybe thats why we're known for our hospitality, because there's so much animals around! Animals do have the tendacy to make people smile!
As was mentioned in another post some months back, this is not the PT Debating Board. If debate is what you seek, try this.
Why would you refer people to another forum? That seems sort of silly, to drive members away from a forum. Plus GP is a pretty nonactive forum. As long as people treat each other with respect, I don't see a problem with debating every now and then. Is it in the rules that we cannot debate on PT? :confused: I don't see whats wrong with disagreements. The world isn't skittles, my little ponies, rainbows, people holding hands, and having the same beliefs you know?
Ok kids - play nice - I'm out of here. I know that will make a select few very happy.
You see - I have a couple of friends stopping over for a visit and they will have their kids with them. Maybe they'll even bring their dogs! :p See that - I don't even have to leave the house - and my dogs will get to socialize.
Nitey-nite now. :D
ok.. where to start... lol
if dogs are allowed.. then Iīd feel free to make mine (but wouldnīt as I know how they behave, good but not store perfect).. the thing is there are sooo many irresposible owners/parents.. just as the ones described.. turning to the other side when their pooch poops or something.. and maybe thatīs why not many places accept dogs.. and they are in their right to so do..
but I think if you have a well trained dog that wonīt harrass customers/kids, if you are responsible for his/her actions poop/eat/etc.. and itīs allowed by the store you should be able to... but, the "law" or rules should be reinforced.. you break it, you pay it.. YOU are responsible of what your kid/dog does.. and some kind of fine in case you didnīt..
also whatīs up with slipping and suing.. just get up, dust off and walk away :rolleyes:.. come on.. this is something i just donīt get..
as for bringing posts of the back and letting go.. i think this is a different topic just mentioned in another thread.. so to me is fair game..IMO..
and I didnīt saw the other as going into flames... threads donīt burst up by themselves.. itīs WE who light them up.. a thread might be about a confrontional subject.. donīt take the step forward and light it up..
and yes.. we should be able to debate.. as long as itīs politely.. not callling names or anything.. debates may get heated.. but they can be controlled.. at least i think we can control ourselves
and about the going somewhere else to debate?.. what is it with that?.. canīt we do it here?..I know this is a Pet forum... but pet relates issues are being discussed.. so why go somewhere else... if anyone doesnīt likes to debate.. then donīt and let the ones that do.. do so.. if i want to see pics I will.. if i want to debate I will.. if i want to post about something I will.. if i couldnīt then why be here at all?.. we can be nice to each other even when things get heated.. at least i know I can
I've been nothing BUT polite and I have never once used mr.:rolleyes:
I don't get the whole 'it'll make people happy if you leave' where did you get that vibe off from?...seems very attention-seeking if you ask me.
And yes you can socialize in the home, I suppose....but I rather my dogs get new scents, meet new dog friends, ect.
exactly, theres a huge difference in socializing a dog at home around other people and dogs, and having him out in public well behaved around new people and dogs.
Personally, I think dogs should be allowed in pet stores(which they are), outdoor cafes/restuarant, and maybe outdoor shopping centers - but really I don't see a need for a dog in a store. Especially a food or clothing store..I mean I just don't see the point in it. I see people walk around the mall with small dogs in purses and sometimes even strollers and I just find that stupid personally. I am not a person who would tote my little dog around, and I know nobody who would - I can't see how it can possibly be comfortable for the dog. :eek:
Dogs are welcomed many places, and the places they may not be welcome - well there are reasons and rules that need to be followed. Yes, it sucks that some people ruin it for the enjoyment of all, but that's the way it is. It happens with EVERYTHING in life. Being the owner of a medium sized dog, I also hate when people sneak smaller animals into places because of their size or because they are in a purse or something. Sure, it's cute, but really - if one dog isn't allowed neither should any. I've never thought this was fair, so even when I had Sassy, I never brought her anywhere either.
Also, to me, comparing kids and dogs is like comparing apples to oranges. There are rules that need to be followed for public safety and enjoyment and unforutnately sometimes you should just leave your pup home.
I'm by no mean agreeing or disagreeing because the fact is, dogs aren't allowed anywhere but petstores here, but I WOULD ENJOY IT if they were. Lol Something that just popped into my head while reading this though...
- You say there are lots of peepee smells in the pet stores because dogs frequent there. But won't that just happen to all the stores if they all allowed dogs in them?
- Pet stores stink... I wouldn't want my store smelling like that...
-I want to move to South Florida and bring my dog everywhere!!! LoL!!!
Yup. I love the fact of dog parks, because I have a dog who is GREAT with the dogs in my home, but could be a little skittish with strange dogs, so I take her to dog parks and she's getting better at not being skittish around other dogs.
Princess my dachshund also had a fear of men, especially black men, from I guess either being abused by them or not so familiar with them, and from socalization outside the home, she no longer has a fear of them.
Its just me, my mom, and two younger brothers. I don't often have visitors over, so socialization outside the home is key for my dogs. They might be friendly with each other and my family, but that might not always be the case with strange people/dogs.
This is all kind of retarded cause no one is arguing that its right to take a dog where one doesn't belong, if the store is pet friendly like some non pet stores are, then thats wonderful.
I think its just not right to see people arguing about being able to fully socialize their pets at home and thats good enough. It may be for you, but not everyone. Some of us would like our pets to be able to be out walking the town, even if its not in stores, that takes more socialization for a dog to be completely comfortable in any setting.
Well people bring their dogs to stores, but its not a daily thing nor is it like every customer has a dog in the store. Its no doggy meetup by any means, jsut once in a blue moon sort of thing. But you might see people dining with their pooches at times though. You might encounter one person shopping with their dogs, say once every two weeks. I've seen two dogs in the store I work for and so far no accidents. Oh except one day the mall had a day for the dogs to take a picture with Santa, so there were tons of dogs in the mall. They had doggy bags just incase any accidents.
There are many ways outside the home to socialize and exercise a dog. You need to expand your horizon if the mall is your only outlet for that.:) My two get plenty of exercise and socialization even here in the cold, snowy, New England states.
Is this mall you speak of outdoors? Those are very few and far between here. The two that I know of often have people walking their dogs outside the stores, sitting on benches, etc.
Just FYI, I don't bring/sneak my little dogs near supermakets or places with food, unless its an outdoor place nor do I carry them in purses/tote bags/strollers. Though I do see the reason why for some dogs, because they might be seniors who have problems walking or whatever the case is.
No its not my only outlet, its not like its the ONLY place I take them too. They also go to waterparks, dog parks, dog beaches, ect...
Actually I have a small dog/dachshund meet up to the dog park on Sunday hopefully and a dachshund winterfest meetup in South Beach on the 23rd, where hundreds of dachshunds will invade the beach!! LOL.
Okay, well I promise you I myself am a fan of little dogs. I put down my beautiful maltese, Sassy in June 2008 because of arthritis. I know the BS small dog owners sometimes go through such as "oh so you carry your dog in a purse" and the like. I just don't think it's right for people to sneak a smaller dog into a store because of the simple fact that they can hide them easily. I also don't like the fact that some places allow just small dogs and not bigger ones, now being the owner of a Pug/Beagle mix who is pretty big, I don't see it fair that because my dog is bigger he isn't allowed somewhere just because of his size. Granted, he's not very well behaved but we are working with him and just signed up for Basic Obedience courses. :D But I know many well behaved bigger dogs, and I just sort of see it as a bit unfair.
Princess says she likes her dog-friendly state the way it is, kthanxbai.
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But she wishes Dade would let her bully friends in on the fun too!!
*her pit bull impersonation, see her muscles? She says she has RE bloodline!* :p
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I have 2 thoughts on this.
One, sometimes we have a dog in church because there is a family who is working with a puppy before she goes to helper dog training. She has to be introduced to a variety of situations she may encounter with the person she will eventually be helping, and that includes church. Some people initially got angry when they saw the dog in church, even though she was wearing her training jacket. There was an article in the newsletter, though (written from the dog's point of view) explaining that the family working with the puppy agrees to take the puppy as many places as they can, and that includes church, so please be patient and understanding, and consider the person the puppy may eventually help. There are still a few people who think the puppy ought not to be in church, but I'd say 97% of the people understand why she is there, agree with the decision to bring her, and use her as a teachable moment with children (See the dog wearing the special jacket? Guess what she is learning to do?). Everyone always wants to pet her, so the family teaches about that too - ask first and then you may pet her briefly. She's totally adorable. Once we had a brass ensemble in church, and when they were done playing, she barked! that is the only time she has ever barked in church. The whole congregation laughed and the director said, "Puppy solo!" It was soooooo cute.
The other is this - in Chicago there are some restaurants that have outdoor seating that you can use whether you have a dog with you or not. That way, if you are out with your dog (e.g., at Wiggly Field or walking along the lakefront), you don't have to take her home before you go out to eat. I went to one with some friends and we sat on the patio even though we didn't have a dog with us. It was fun! We struck up conversations with people about their dogs, and learned a lot. Also got lovely doggie kisses afterward :) The dog people were so friendly that day!
Aww!!! How cute!!! DOGGY SOLO! :) I love it.
I don't see anothing wrong w/ taking your dog into a store as long as it's ok w/ the owners/management of the store. I'd think it would be pretty gross if someone carried their dog inside a grocery store or any kind of store w/ food in it for that matter, cause then there would be dog hair all over the place...but someone mentioned carrying their dog inside Lowe's and I don't really see nothing wrong w/ that as long as the people working there are cool w/ it. I've seen people in Lowe's before w/ dogs. They were small dogs...but anyways.. Me, personally, don't ever take my dog in stores. Angel really gets nervous around people and doesn't like it much, so I normally leave her at home unless I'm just running to the gas station or something where I can leave her in the car. The only store I've carried her in is Petco...and she barked her little head off the whole time!! lol...
I checked with my local home depot when I saw a lady with a macaw on her shopping cart handle. they said there is no policy against bringing animals in and they welcome them all, including pitbulls. Champ goes to work with me everyday but he'd rather sleep in the truck than come in the store with me anyways. But a pet freindly store is more likely to draw pet freindly customers.
I think if dogs are welcomed into the store then it's ok to bring them in (and yes, you should pick up after your dog)
Our Home Depot also welcomes dogs. We had to stop by there once while we were out and just happened to have Roxey with us. I was going to wait outside the store and one of the managers came out and personally invited us in:)
[QUOTE=pomtzu;2224021]I'm not going to go into depth on this and create a hassle, but unless it's a service dog, it doesn't belong in a store other than a pet/pet supply store. The size of the dog doesn't matter.
So - IMO - it is irresponsible for anyone to take a dog in a store, without good cause.
I agree with all of you.