Thank you Laura. That is VERY informative. And again leads me to ask...why aren't these facts a part of the discussion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Laura's Babies
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Thank you Laura. That is VERY informative. And again leads me to ask...why aren't these facts a part of the discussion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Laura's Babies
That just beggars belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prairie Purrs
There was an article with a chart showing the largest contributors to waste in American health care. One of the largest bars on this chart was excessive testing. (I can't remember what the other one was; I need to go dig around for the link to the article.) The excessive testing may be linked to the tort law in this country; people tend to like to sue. Tort reform may need to be coupled to health care reform in order to help reduce this one source of waste.
Here's just one link, by Price Waterhouse Coopers, which cited excessive testing as the #1 waste source. Americans' life style choices were #3. http://www.pwc.com/us/en/healthcare/...f-excess.jhtml
I don't disagree except for what I said in the rest of my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killearn Kitties
What KK and Medusa's friend described, is pretty much how it works in Denmark too. There can be short waiting lists for things that are not life threatening, like a hip operation. If the patient requires immediate attention, he/she will be referred to a private hospital and NHS will pay the bill.
Like in UK, everybody here is entitled to healthcare through the NHS (National Health Service) funded through taxation. The individual does not pay for operations, treatment, hospital clinic, or doctor’s appointments. However, we do pay for dentist treatment.
If someone need a lot of prescription medicine, they pay the full amount for it the first time, and after that, the amount is deducted with a certain percentage for the following purchases for one year, so that you pay less and less. It starts all over again after a year.
It is amazing the "untruths" some people are willing to spread to advance their political agenda. Another example of an "untruth".....Quote:
Originally Posted by Killearn Kitties
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Aug. 7) -- Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin called President Barack Obama's health plan "downright evil" Friday in her first online comments since leaving office, saying in a Facebook posting that he would create a "death panel" that would deny care to the neediest Americans.
"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care," the former Republican vice presidential candidate wrote.
Death Panels???? Suggesting that strikes me as ugly and evil! And of course, is not true.
As far as I'm aware, that statement is untrue, I have never heard of that in Britain. I live in Wales and we have slight differences but generally the health care system is more or less the same in Wales, England and Scotland.
My husbands grandmother had a heart bypass operation at the age of 78 and that was in England, about 10 years ago.
Whenever something is deemed to expensive it always causes uproar in Britain because that's what we pay our National Insurance contribution for in your wages (salary).
I have to admit the thought of going to the doctor or hospital and paying for it is really weird! I can't imagine having to do that!
Also even if the British government tried to bring things like that in, the public would go ape.
At first we panic... that nasty ole word "CHANGE".. I paniced too, then I wanted to dig deeper than what information is being passed around BY the paniced. Like I said before, what I have read of the bill is so vague that people interpret it different.Quote:
That is VERY informative. And again leads me to ask...why aren't these facts a part of the discussion?
The hurried way they are trying to pass it is what is panicing everybody. It needs to be fully explained in every day terms and just give us time to do some investigating to satisfy ourselves that it is not/or really is, something to be afraid of. WHAT IS THE RUSH? We have done it our way this long, give us time to read it, investigate it and them have someone to explain it, there is no need to hurry and shove it down anyones throat..
What I want to see is a debate on TV like the presidential debates, THAT is what I think they need to do to satisfy people and answer questions that people have.... FOR ALL to see! If there is nothing to hide... why not?
Walter Annenberg & wife Leonore were ardent, staunch lifelong Republicans. Annenberg helped get Nixon elected president and Nixon then appointed Annenberg as Amb. to London (the most prestigious ambassadorship). Annenbergs were great friends of the Reagans and often socialized with them - most notablly New Year's Eves (plural "eves"). The couples were perhaps best friends. Leonore was appointed by Reagan as the State Dept. Chief of Protocol.
The Annenberg Foundation concentrates much of its grants on education.
Google: England 59 yrs no heart repairs stents bypass
and note about 10 sites COMPLETELY refuting that canard about England not allowing those over 59 years to have these heart procedures. Sites cite their sources for the information. Note also that that weird email making the rounds telling us all that England doesn't allow these heart procedures gives no sources for its statements and the originator is anonymous. When I received that email, I thought it was a joke. And indeed it is.