When third graders attack.....

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Originally Posted by mugsy

3. In reference to Richard's comments on the lack of support for teachers...I have only one thing to say.... RICHARD...WOULD YOU MARRY ME??? ;) :D ;)

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Why....Sure, you'd have to move to Cah Lee Fuh Nee Ah. And I don't have a dishwasher, so you don't have to do dishes.....I would.

Dang, If I can get you to post against your will and ask for my hand in marriage can you imagine what MY kids would be like? :( :eek: :confused:
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I need to clarify one thing about my previous post.

What I meant to say is that if the plot was put together against a neighborhood mom, the neighbors would ban together to get rid of the families of the children who put together the plan...

Third grade must be a very dangerous place. Here in OC a 3rd grade teacher had a gun hidden in her classroom. Ammo too.

OK Corral

If children are so good at distinguishing fact from fiction...why is Harry Potter so popular...Santa Claus, ET, and Snow White???

Combine a violence saturated culture with a child-centric culture and what do you expect?

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

Why....Sure, you'd have to move to Cah Lee Fuh Nee Ah. And I don't have a dishwasher, so you don't have to do dishes.....I would.

Dang, If I can get you to post against your will and ask for my hand in marriage can you imagine what MY kids would be like? :( :eek: :confused:
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Well, I just can't bring myself to move to Cali...I'm just too Midwestern I guess! lol Dang!

You wouldn't have to worry about kids though...I'm 46 and have zero interest! ;) :p And your cat would need to deal with my 6 dogs.


Sara...I totally agree...I'm just glad it hasn't come to that in the good ol' Fort!

Richard, once again you prove your awesomeness! Loved your post and it was right on the money. And you do dishes, too? You just might have another proposal.

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Originally Posted by cyber-sibes

A big part of the problem is that teachers are NOT ALLOWED to discipline kids in the classroom anymore. It's not like when we were kids & you were expected to show respect to adults in authority (who were entrusted to provide consequences for your misbehavior)

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One sure cure for today's school problems is to have an Order(any Order)
of Catholic nuns to take over the running of the schools.These kids would shape up quick. back in the "good old days" Catholic schools were given
permisson by the parents to discipline children if neccesary.

Children knew their limits & the consequences of bad behavior.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

One sure cure for today's school problems is to have an Order(any Order)
of Catholic nuns to take over the running of the schools.These kids would shape up quick. back in the "good old days" Catholic schools were given
permisson by the parents to discipline children if neccesary.

Children knew their limits & the consequences of bad behavior.

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That's because they scared the crap outta ya with the ruler and the line, "God sees everything you are doing".

Kinda like the government and the PATRIOT ACT....without the phone taps. :confused:

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Originally Posted by dukedogsmom

When you make a statement like that, you need to post facts to back it up. That's ridiculous! I knew real from fantasy way before then and I know I'm not the only one.

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Perhaps I should have been more specific.....for one thing, I apologize but I do not have any way to post a link to what I am talking about. It came from an adolescent psychology class I took in college.

I know that not ALL teenagers are this way...but many think that they are invincible, that they already know everything. Pair that with being so over-sensitized to violence in this society. Think about a child who watches violent tv and plays violent video games. Mom and dad tell them it's ok, the violence they see is not real. So the child kills people in a game, knowing it's not real, but he/she can't translate that to real life. They can't understand real violence.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying that it's only tv and video games to blame. And yes, I roll my eyes too when someone says, "the video games made me do it." But I do believe that many people, even adults, live in a fantasy world. Not knowing the difference between reality and fantasy isn't as unbelievable as you might think for a teenager. Maybe when you were 16 you didn't think that nothing bad could happen to you. Maybe you believed everything your parents told you and didn't think you were smarter than them. But unfortunately that's not how most 16 year olds are.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

If children are so good at distinguishing fact from fiction...why is Harry Potter so popular...Santa Claus, ET, and Snow White?

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Ok I'm baffled here. What do any of these movies have to do with distiguishing fact from fiction? I happen to own all the videos of these movies, and when I was a kid my fav. shows were Buck Rogers, A-Team and WWF (back when it wasn't full of half naked ladies and foul language). I'm neither violent nor have issues with thinking fiction is fact. Actually thanks to my mom's teaching, I tend to check out everything with Snopes that come into my inbox, I doubt every wild story I hear until I check it out first, and am skeptical as all heck. But that could be a reverse problem I have, who knows.

I don't think it's so much about the particular shows kids watch (although it can infuence them somewhat) but it's the LACK of parents intervening to teach lessons on right and wrong and knowing what their kids are doing.

But then again the world seems to be more interested in 'situational ethics' rather than any type of right is right and wrong is wrong thinking. JMHO

Now that I think about it.....

Reading materials also have a huge influence on people.


Playboy made me want to look at nude women. :mad: :eek: :o

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Originally Posted by JenBKR

Perhaps I should have been more specific.....for one thing, I apologize but I do not have any way to post a link to what I am talking about. It came from an adolescent psychology class I took in college.

I know that not ALL teenagers are this way...but many think that they are invincible, that they already know everything. Pair that with being so over-sensitized to violence in this society. Think about a child who watches violent tv and plays violent video games. Mom and dad tell them it's ok, the violence they see is not real. So the child kills people in a game, knowing it's not real, but he/she can't translate that to real life. They can't understand real violence.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying that it's only tv and video games to blame. And yes, I roll my eyes too when someone says, "the video games made me do it." But I do believe that many people, even adults, live in a fantasy world. Not knowing the difference between reality and fantasy isn't as unbelievable as you might think for a teenager. Maybe when you were 16 you didn't think that nothing bad could happen to you. Maybe you believed everything your parents told you and didn't think you were smarter than them. But unfortunately that's not how most 16 year olds are.

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Not sure if this is quite it; I couldn't find anything specifically on children not being able to tell "real" from "fantasy" though I too have heard that theory and perhaps read a study or two myself, but I'll be darned if I can find anything on google right now lol

http://www.psychology.iastate.edu/fa...game_faqs.html

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

Now that I think about it.....

Reading materials also have a huge influence on people.


Playboy made me want to look at nude women. :mad: :eek: :o

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Ok forgive the generalizing here but...

Richard this is assuming the kids today actually READ. Seems I'm seeing more and more of them that play video games, surf the net and if they happen to go outside are more interested in destroying property than playing sports. Our library is sadly lacking in many youth coming in except to use the computers. :(

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Originally Posted by Catlady711

Ok forgive the generalizing here but...

Richard this is assuming the kids today actually READ. Seems I'm seeing more and more of them that play video games, surf the net and if they happen to go outside are more interested in destroying property than playing sports. Our library is sadly lacking in many youth coming in except to use the computers. :(

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You are correct, I was spending way too much time with the pics and not the text.

Check out the abbreviations and lack of spelling skills because the parents want the kids to have cell phones.

"I want little Pugsley to have a phone -in case something happens in school and they need to get a hold of me."

When your idiot kid gets thrown out of class for sending messages, answering the phone or watching videos, you will run to the principal and blame the teacher for violating your spawn's rights.


Oh, And you will get the phone call from your kid when the fit hits the shan...just in time to experience their last breath....because they were too busy dialing the phone instead of running away. :confused:

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Originally Posted by Jessika

Not sure if this is quite it; I couldn't find anything specifically on children not being able to tell "real" from "fantasy" though I too have heard that theory and perhaps read a study or two myself, but I'll be darned if I can find anything on google right now lol

http://www.psychology.iastate.edu/fa...game_faqs.html

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Thanks for the article, that's pretty much what I was trying to say as I was blabbering on :D