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even if the dog got a clean bill of health, theres no denying that it could develop an illness. then what would happen to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danegirl2208
edit: lovely post logan.
Even though it's not my responsibility yes I do and without the help of his original owner I tracked the person down on facebook and now talk to her.Quote:
do you even care about where he is now?
I don't tell everyone to go to shelters, again upon your searches you should know this.Quote:
your the hipocritE, by telling everyone that they should go to shelters, and then buying a dog.
again ive said it.
Again during your many searches (and my already reply) you should have seen that my cats have both had illnesses come up and they have been treated.Quote:
even if the dog got a clean bill of health, theres no denying that it could develop an illness. then what would happen to it.
Do you not realise how stupid you sound right now? Honeslty your clearly trying to provoke me and get a reaction out of me and everyone is seeing it and obviously they also find it pretty rediculous.
oh im not provoking you. you dont even have to answer me. but you do.
if logic= stupid now then order of the universe has been inverted and that means you must be incredibly smart, all hail buttercup the new steven hawking.
my watch isnt ticking anticlockwise. so clearly that hasnt happened. and obviously not everyone agrees with your opinion.
I am still baffled at how off topic this thread has gone..if you don't like buttercup or her decisions, Pickle.. why not just move on?..at this point all you are doing is bickering and trying to get a rise out of her, very immature on your part and I highly doubt very many people are taking you seriously....the point of this thread was not to bring up past events. Move on...
hey- its immaturity, yep. i dont *have* to be totally mature.
but you cannot deny that my arguement has logic.
if you say that i have a spineless arguement i suggest you go to your local hospital to have some tests run on your brain.
Wow all these comments are way out of line and you are just making yourself look bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
Actually, it's been an amusing exchange to watch. Alicia does preach to others to look for shelter dogs/cats, even had it in her siggie about adopting shelter animals instead of the "breed and buy" while others die. Alicia is also very good at belittling others and making snide comments. Pickle was dead on with many of her statements. Good research ~Pickle~.
I've had two friends who found Chinese crested dogs, and one Chinese Crested mix, in local shelters. Seriously, have you done a search on PetFinder if you really want that particular breed? It would be saving a shelter animal's life instead of plumping the wallet of a breeder. Are you looking at a time line, or are you willing to wait? You might be able to find one in another area, if not local, so it would still be helping a shelter dog.
i have never cared about what people think of me and im not going to start now.Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
thankyou very much jenn =]
Yes I do tell people to look in shelters but that's when they are going to buy dogs from a byb especially when they are looking to get a mixed breed from a breeder. If someone is looking for a purebred I almost always suggest either looking in a shelter or go to a local show and talk to breeders. I've also never had those quotes in my siggy;) Your pretty good at making those snide comments yourself.Quote:
Actually, it's been an amusing exchange to watch. Alicia does preach to others to look for shelter dogs/cats, even had it in her siggie about adopting shelter animals instead of the "breed and buy" while others die. Alicia is also very good at belittling others and making snide comments. Pickle was dead on with many of her statements. Good research ~Pickle
Yes I have and I already said that I did in this thread, look back on my post.Quote:
Seriously, have you done a search on PetFinder if you really want that particular breed?
I'm going to a good breeder, they won't be making any money off of the money I give them. The money real breders ask for is to go to what they spent on testing, showing,spay/neuter, shots etc. They rarley make the money back that they put into the dogs.Quote:
It would be saving a shelter animal's life instead of plumping the wallet of a breeder.
This is what I mean about causing havvoc and being stuck up. Look what you have turned this thread into and how rude your being to others that have done nothing wrong.Quote:
i have never cared about what people think of me and im not going to start now
yes, you have. i remember them clearly.Quote:
I've also never had those quotes in my siggy
and pretty mucht the only reason breeders breed is to make money.
purebreed=profit. they arent doing it for some nirvana-type reason of a doggie haven. its for their wallets.
the fact that a human only looks at the first and last letter of a word and the rest can be jumbled up yet still they could read it, is a fact. not a challenge.Quote:
This is what I mean about causing havvoc and being stuck up. Look what you have turned this thread into and how rude your being to others that have done nothing wrong
please go back to school.
Ok well I'm pretty sure I havn't my siggy always has the same words under it.
There's other people who have that quote that I have seen but I wouldn't put something I don't belive in, into my signature and I wouldn't copy someone's quote.
Wow you really don't know much :rolleyes: Talk to some of the breeders on this board heck talk to some actual dog people and they will tell you different.Quote:
and pretty mucht the only reason breeders breed is to make money.
purebreed=profit. they arent doing it for some nirvana-type reason of a doggie haven. its for their wallets.
Jenn you just got a dog that you can't even afford. People put money together so you could get the dog. If you can't even afford the dogs petty $200 fleight how will you afford vet bills? Not to mention I'm pretty sure I've read that your tight on money because of all your fosters.
"wont you practice what you preach,
and wont you turn the other cheek,
father father father help us,
send some guidance from above,
cos people got me
got me questioning,
where is the love"
some songs are just tailor made for situations.
PLEASE do your research before making ignorent remarks like this! Absolutly ridiculous!...a responsible breeder does NOT breed for money..first of all if a breeder is doing all they are supposed to they will NOT profit from breeding, infact most reputable breeders LOSE money in their litters. What you are thinking of Pickle, is a Backyard breeder..and there IS a difference. Backyard breeders and puppy mills are the ones that breed for money, every puppy they produce is a dollar sign in their eyes...they are completly different than a responsible breeder who is breeding to improve the breed.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
This thread has gotten udderly ridiculous..please get your facts straight before posting false information.
yeah i do know what im talking about. one of my mums best firends is a husky breeder, ive met other breeders, im not sat in a dark cardboard box with a computer as my only social life. and the only reason they did it, except about 1 or two, was to sell the puppies. (cute little things they are too. so very soft and lullaby sweet)Quote:
Wow you really don't know much Talk to some of the breeders on this board heck talk to some actual dog people and they will tell you different
edit- oh and i suppose these husky breeders are classes as back yard breeders? i dont think so. most well cared for dogs ive ever seen were these huskies.
then they were not responsible breeders...Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
they were. they made checks to make sure the dogs were properly cared for, would go out of their way to make sure the dog was ok and warned that they can run very fast and would not make good house pets (with the exception of Red, our dog.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Danegirl2208
edit: Red was given to us for free. there was nothing wrong with her, in good health, and they knew she would have a loving home here.
ask yourself- would a back yard breeder give away a dog?
Did they show or work their dogs? Did they health test (and i'm not talking about a vet visit)? I do not think you know the meaning of a reputable breeder...Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
So now your the expert based on one breeder, this is totally ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
huskies by tradition are working dogs. they didnt have to but they excercised and trained the dogs to do sled work. they enjoyed it and never overworked them. if there was the slightest problem it never went unnoticed and was seen to immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danegirl2208
oh and of course im not an expert. im 13 years old. get over your inflated ego and take a look at yourself before you go and call anything or anyone ridiculous.
What's even more rediculous is that there is a adult agreeing with her!!
:rolleyes: What ever I'm done answering your rediculous questions, do some REAL research on breeding and you'll get your answers. I can't wait till Karen sees this and how rediculous your being.
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Originally Posted by -Pickle-
Sorry but that's completely untrue. I've already invested a lot of money into Keeva and she's only a year old. There's still more money required for showing, agility trials, hip & elbow xrays, eye testing, etc. I already know I won't get that money back. The GOOD breeders do it for the love of their breed. We have a couple resident PT breeders here who will tell you the same thing. I won't be breeding for profit (cause there won't be much, if any at all). I plan on breeding because the breed is far gone from what it should be. The only reason one should breed is to better the breed. Period. Not because puppies are cute, to make some extra cash, or because the mom and/or dad are nice (there are PLENTY of nice dogs in shelters). When you breed PROPERLY, there is RARELY profit.
well at least while this has gone on a few more people are starting to see what an irresponsible girl you are being. your acting like a spoilt child.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttercup132
get over yourself!
I know perfectly well that huskies are working dogs..and that is great that they worked them. Really..but if they were honestly breeding "just to have puppies"...they are irresponsible..and thats not my opinion thats fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
I quoted this for Jenn who seems to think I'm terrible for thinking people should get shelter animals and then wanting a dog from a breeder. Ashley says the same thing as me and oh look she got Keeva from a breeder. The same thing as your bashing me for.Quote:
Not because puppies are cute, to make some extra cash, or because the mom and/or dad are nice (there are PLENTY of nice dogs in shelters). When you breed PROPERLY, there is RARELY profit
You are jeez Sydney your so full of yourself lmao:p :rolleyes:Quote:
What is this about my 'inflated ego'? Maybe I am missing something...
most of the breeders i know, their pack is their life, their love, their livelihood and their passion. they care about their dogs and i have the upmost respect for how much they care.Quote:
Originally Posted by binka_nugget
fair enough if you are done with "my immaturity" then kindly bow out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danegirl2208
the inflated ego comment was not directed at you. sorry i should have left a name on the post. my mistake.
they werent breeding just to have puppies, well breeding is to make puppies, but as i have already said, love, life,livelihood and greatest passion.
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I quoted this for Jenn who seems to think I'm terrible for thinking people should get shelter animals and then wanting a dog from a breeder. Ashley says the same thing as me and oh look she got Keeva from a breeder. The same thing as your bashing me for.
Ladie's please remember that Pickle is from England. They may not have the same standards as American breeders have. She may be right that in her country no one breeds for the enhancement of the breed. I would do not know enough about breeding in her country to contradict her. She, on the other hand, should not assume that because her country's breeders lack a certain ethic that it is true in all countries.
I know of many reputable breeders in England..they are not breeding for any other reason than to improve the breed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginger's Mom
I don't think it really matters what country your from there's always going to be some breeders breeding to better the breed.
Reputable breeders don't make a profit selling puppies. They are lucky to break even.
PS: And unreputable breeders, let alone pet owners, can lie. I remember Ivy's story, and Alicia was told he was fine. It was after she got him that he went to the vet and the problems were discovered.
Now, if you knew beforehand that you couldn't take on a special-needs pet - then got one you were told was fine, and it turned out to be special needs - what the heck are you going to do?
Especially if you are in school, not working, and it's your parents' money(which is why you wouldn't get a special needs pet in the first place)?
Alicia has said she is in regular contact with Ivy's new owner.
Pickle - whatever good points you may have had in your postings (and I saw none) were obliterated by your bloody rudeness.
JMO
Amen to that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
I am utterly disgusted with this thread. Alicia is asking for opinions on a breeder. She is not asking for anyone to bring up that fact that yes, maybe she does make snide and immature comments from time to time, but I don't think she is the only one guilty of this.
-Pickle-, you are making a complete FOOL of yourself with your immature and poorly backed remarks. I suggest that you zip it before you make yourself look even worse.
1) Because she would like one, and is interested in the breedQuote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
2) I believe Alicia has had a non-pedigree dog.
I would like to know just where is your justification in saying that she has never loved a mixed breed? This was a poorly backed up statement.
You're right, it would would probably wind up finding another good home. But what makes you say Alicia isn't a fit home for a dog (or animal)? You have no evidence other than her rehoming an animal she did not meet the needs for. She could have easily dumped it on the side of the road. Again, this is not a justified statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
Yes, we can deny that your argument contains logic. You have made no justified statements.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
Well, I am sorry to hear you think this. England must be a sad, sad place to live. Yes, some breeders breed for profit. These are NOT reputable breeders. Any REPUTABLE breeder does not make a profit, and just barely, mostly NEVER, even breaks even.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-
Can we all act mature now and get back ON TOPIC? (Topic being what everyone thinks of these breeders, for those of you who find this difficult to understand).
i have considered your suggestion.Quote:
-Pickle-, you are making a complete FOOL of yourself with your immature and poorly backed remarks. I suggest that you zip it before you make yourself look even worse.
my answer is-
nope.
and canada+america are the happiest places in the world to live?Quote:
England must be a sad, sad place to live.
and i can say that everyone sans two or three people is just biased towards alicia because she wasnt one the people that have seen her second face.Quote:
Yes, we can deny that your argument contains logic. You have made no justified statements.
yes we can. my view is check every shelter near her first. then if that doesnt work, find a better breeder than this one.Quote:
Can we all act mature now and get back ON TOPIC? (Topic being what everyone thinks of these breeders, for those of you who find this difficult to understand).
Wow... this got horrifically ugly! D:
Pickle, I will put aside the fact that you are acting very rude, immature, judgemental, and holier than thou.
What annoys me the most is that you are implying that rescue is the only way to go. Buying from a reputable breeder is NOT effecting rescue. Of course, I always suggest rescue as an option, but to judge some one for wanting to find a reputable breeder to buy a puppy from is just close-minded. That kind of attitude is what drives people away from rescue AND reputable breeders - the attitude of the elitist rescuer. I have met quite a few. And, with every single one of them, it seems that their passion does not come from a love for the animals; it comes from a love for being condescending and putting others down.
Honestly, you have NEVER re-homed a single pet? Everyone makes mistakes, everyone lacks judgement at times, and there are situations where it is the only resort. What matters most is how one goes about re-homing... I have known Alicia for a while, and I know she is a responsible pet owner. You can keep spewing your personal attacks, if it makes you feel better, but I'm not listening.
Thank you, I remember almost everyone supported what happened with Ivy and agreed with what I was saying. I guess some people are just too blunt to understand these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
Thanks everyone for your help.
I think next time I'll just pm a few people who I know, know alot about finding good breeders.
no, ive never rehomed a single pet.Quote:
Honestly, you have NEVER re-homed a single pet?
Just wanted to add, that Alicia(we) has just lost a precious Mixed breed whom we have had for 12 and half years. Loved dearly....
We also have a 13 year old mixed breed dog still and 3 domestic cats...4 of these animals were rescued from shelters...
So, clearly get over yorself.
(srry ali!) coudlnt help it.
well you should be grateful that you've never had to rehome a pet. I have and so have a lot of other PT's here i'm sure..it was one of the hardest decisions we have ever had to make but sometimes it's for the best. You should stop bashing at buttercup. You let her know how you felt at first but it is getting ridiculous now...I think you just want to argue. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pickle-