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I thought it was funny that one of the lifeguards is just 18yrs old. :D
they said they don't actually check ID in that kid free zone, but settle
for "eye balling" people who show up.
Oh, btw, they had a vote response to the question of kid free zones at
the beach and results were 71% yes & 29% no to this idea. :)
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Originally Posted by lizbud
I was just gonna say.... it's a nice idea but who is going to enforce it? Is that 18 year old security guard going to tell a group of 16 year olds they can't come in? God he's liable to be killed anymore.
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Originally Posted by sparks19
He's not a security guard, he's a lifeguard and I'd imagine most people
there have a cell phone to alert police to any problems.
I know he's a lifeguard I didn't realize I said security guard until just now lol..... but I'm assuming he is the only "employee" to enforce this rule. and yes they could call the police but they would still have to deal with the disruptions they were trying to avaoid by having this beach in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
Not to mention that I also see a lot of the more irresponsible parents using the "adult" part to get away from their kids while they leave their kids unattended in the public area.
I'm all for an adults only beach area.... just like they have adults only swim times at pools.... but I just see this causing more problems than it's solving.
If a group of adults can't handle a few rowdy kids, then we all ought toQuote:
Originally Posted by sparks19
just give it up now. :D
As to the misbehaving adults, they should be arrested for neglect of a child.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
LOL I agree..... but I'm just saying it seems that is what they wanted the beach to avoid and it might just bring them more disruptions :D
and yes they should be arrested.... but there are a lot of people out there that should be arrested for the things they do or do not do with their children and yet they don't :(
Hey....get real !!!! Some of us oldies NEED that.... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by joycenalex
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wom, 2 words....high fibre! LOL and this shall too shall pass
:p You need an Advert to tell you about prune juice? :p
Whats with all the punning lately?
The threads are getting scrambled, and I'm getting egg-sasperated!
I actually think it is a good idea, however I think they should change the age limit to 18 instead of 21. I know my brothers would love to go there to just relax away from the 'rowdy' kids but they aren't old enough yet.
Good idea all in all though.
I'm child free, don't like kids, and I'm still against this. It could be a regional thing, but 21 and older is just asking for trouble. It just means a party zone for loud obnoxious "adults."
Why not make this 18 and older?!
And just what the heck do they have against sand castles?! You're telling me if a 40 year old starts making a sand castle they'll be kicked out? :eek:
This does sound like a stuck up snobby country club.
And i tell you what, when i was 10 (just throwing a number out here because it's true for my whole life..) I would have LOVED to had a beach to go to where loud obnoxious rowdy kids weren't allowed in to. The hideous yelling, and screaming, and running, and destroying other peoples' sand artwork, and splashing. UGH!!!
Why couldn't they just designate a QUIET beach zone?
I'm not fond of people being singled out as a group few the misdeeds of many. :p Give individuals a chance.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
Well I'm sorry that you didn't realise how much fun I was having !!!!! In fact, I enjoyed kicking all of your sand angels to bits !!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by crow_noir
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I see LH's point, and it makes sense.
BUT, I would like it, and add this to it: I would want to separate those kids 8 and over from the group of younger kids. That way, I would know Jonah and I were getting our tax dollars worth of a day at the beach. No one would be bullying my child, nor would he be exposed to the older kids with some of the raunchier language coming out of their mouths.
I could actually go to the beach and know my child would have a good time. Heck, if it works for the adults, it should work for the younger set.
Lake Forest Illinois is a VERY affluent suburb just north of Chicago. The beach under discussion is Lake Michigan. No jelly fish or other sea creatures. Just some dead elwives now and then.
All the suburbs of Chicago which border the shore have different rules on beach usage. For example in the city of Chicago...by law...all lakefront is public.
Northern suburbs differ. Some...you must be a resident to use...some you can buy a day pass.
All Lake Forest is doing is designating a portion for a specific use. No one is being denied access to using the beach. Some people are being denied access to a portion of the beach. I too could see a portion designated for the use of toddlers...open access...adult only.
In addition to the enjoyment issue is safety. Safety is the purpose of life guards and the demands and priorities of the guards could be different for the different areas. Toddlers presetn one kind of risk, teenager another, adults only yet another.
Lake Michigan is a very big lake and Lake Forest has a nice chunk of beach. If they want to designate a portion for volleyball...or toddlers...or adults...or nude bathing (come on...you were all thinking it when you opened the thread!)...or fishing only...or whatever...so be it...
I can see both sides. I do think it's a good idea to have an area of the beach sectioned off (although I would also think that 18 and over is better than 21) for people wanting to get away from kids. It's sad to me though, because it seems like a lot of parents don't watch their kids, and those are the ones causing the problems. Not everyone likes kids, and I understand and respect that.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Before I vote, or move to Chicago, would it be full, frontal nudity, or, just topless....
Put the kids in the water and let them stay there?
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The effing NIMBY's always get their way.
I just read a story about people who bought houses next to a golf course and sue the GC because balls hit their homes....
And while I do not believe that the two 80+ home owners should be in fear of their lives and property, I refuse to believe that they were too stupid to realize the danger.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
It seems like a simple request to me. If I took children to the beach, it
would be more for their benefit than mine. I could not just sit & read a book
or enjoy a swim, or whatever. I would be supervising at all times. It's good
to be able to enjoy a quieter beach area for yourself sometimes.
In for a penny...in for a pound (ouch! :eek: What a visual! :eek: )Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
I'm having a hard time with the notion that the powers-that-be would let a clothing-optional beach fly up there in tony Lake Forest. Another beach maybe, but not there. So I'm guessing it's a section of the beach off limits to people under a certain age. Heck, I won't be going to the beach up there anytime soon, I'll be with the other commoners hangin' out at the public pool.
Prunes ??? What a gas !!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
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Oh, no, these puns won't be running out any time soon.... :p
I agree.........and I've been PUNching the wall all day trying to think up new ones. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
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I'm flush with ideas myself....
This post is really going down the drain !!!!!
I think it is a great Idea. I have two kids, but there are always times when I need to be alone, and a beach definitely sounds like the perfect spot!! I just wish it was closer to me, so I could be one of the many enjoying it!!:D
Okay, I'll pipe down! :p
I have kids, and I LOVE the idea of "child-free" zones!
I have always thought the idea of "child-free" sections in restaurants would be wonderful!
Even if you have kids, you don't necesarily want to be with kids all the time! In fact, you tend to value your "child-free" time all the more.
There are places where smokers can't go, where pets can't go ... what is so wrong about places kids can't go?
Ah I dunno. Some people like time away from their kids, we are all different I suppose. I never did, We included the kids absolutely everywhere we went, which was as a family.....it's the way we were, and how we enjoyed ourselves.
Still.....if ya like ya space away from the kids....then go for it. ;)
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Ya mean all of your puns have been WIPED out ????? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004
Just yesterday, a otherwise pleasant conversation with someone I have known for years turned slightly nasty because of this issue. I, too, include Jonah in everything/everywhere I go.* I was told I need to "find 'me' time", "develop interests" (which is funny, as my only real interest right now is finding time to exercise), and how I will grow out of this feeling. Everyone has different 'needs' when it comes to themselves and thier children. My need, and I have this silly idea that I know what is best for me, is not to spend time away from my child- other than my work time.
While I have no problem with a kid-free zone for the reasons stated above, I can't imagine availing myself of it, either. I just happen to like kids. Mine, yours, and those not otherwise classified.
*- I don't do some things because I don't think they are kid appropriate/kid friendly. I wouldn't take Jonah to a wedding, for instance. Or, a funeral. Or, a adult party. I might not go, either, but, I would never insist that he be included.
Cataholic, You sound like me when my children were pre-school age. :)
You couldn't pry me away from them. It wasn't until they were old enough
for grade school that I experienced "withdrawal" symptoms & didn't know
what to do with myself anymore. Getting to know yourself again and doing
things just for yourself is kinda weird at first. :D
Yeah, I think there is/will be a gradual weaning, but, for me (and Jones), it isn't now.
For some stay-at-home mothers, a break from the kids is a great thing. When mine were under 5, I would have loved a few minutes to myself. After they were 5, I was working so I got some quiet time and could enjoy being with them when I was home.
Now that I'm 'senior', I can enjoy others' kids at times. But I would appreciate adult only areas, just as I appreciate the non-smoking areas of restaurants.
My "me time and interests" were everything to do with my children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
People who don't have children will never really fully understand that. ;)
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I can't speak for all the Child Free, but i myself can certainly understand it. It may not be my own feelings, but i certainly do understand it.
Then again it could be that my true soul mate (not as in the kind you marry,) was King and if something didn't include him, it was highly unlikely that i was interested in the activity. It was when he was with me that i had the most fun and enjoyed myself the most. Why? Because that time spent with him was the most special time spent in my life. NOTHING could compare. (...and i NEVER even once seen King as a child replacement or child equivalent. In my eyes he was my brother and friend if anything.)
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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004
For some mothers, they don't know or ignore the fact that there are some places that kids just shouldn't be. So, they need to accept the fact that maybe they shouldn't go there unless they have a sitter. Again, I'm speaking in general here and it's not directed at all kids. It's directed at the ones that are loud and bratty and the mothers who do nothing to correct it, like discipline or taking them out of the public place they were inhabiting.
I just read of a beach in Italy that has banned men AND children....however...dogs are allowed....
Sounds like my kind of beach!Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
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Originally Posted by dukedogsmom
LOL Me too. :D