Do You Think Impeachment Is A Viable Option

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Originally Posted by lizbud

"People of this country have spoken overwhelmingly. It's been constant now," Feinstein said. "They want us out. It is time for the Senate to weigh in. I hope we will have the votes."

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Hmmmmm... The art of spin is strong with this one.

On other internet forums I visit, some that are dedicated to political discussion, I find that informed people (by that I mean people who have more than an emotional or political intrest in the issue at hand) want us to WIN and then leave.

I am sure we all could go back and forth all day about how and why we got there, but we are there now and have heavily invested in this mission. have we become so weak willed as a people that when faced with hardship all we want to do is quit? Sad if you ask me....

Read some history... True peace only comes through victory. Perhaps a sad statement of humanity, but true.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Which is, I suppose, why Bush doesn't want Rove and Maier to testify under oath..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

When Clinton lied.....no one died.....

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Always with the rolling of eyes with you.

I will give you that it is indeed a little suspicious... But perhaps The President is simply trying to protect the powers of the Executive Branch from a Congress that now routinely attempts to overstep their Constitutional powers.

Also, I am going to keep in mind from now on that you have now twice (so far) in this thread qualified perjury. Interesting....

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

How amusing! The opposing voices are coming from foreign nationals! Where's the very mature and intelligent Miss Z when we need her to remind us of not meddling in foreign affairs....

Only about 36% of US citizens are happy with the president's handling of things right now.

I realize water goes down the drain "backwards" Down Under....but even there I suspect +60% does not equal a minority!

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But...But... But I thought one of the reasons we hate President Bush is because of how he has so tarnished our image outside the country. I would think you would want to hear what "foreign nationals" think. Or is it only the foreign nationals who agree with you?

As for "polling data"... I converse regulary with a professional in that game. He often says that you can prove ANYthing with polling data, it is all about how you finesse it. Polls... (In grand Edwinas Secretary fashion)

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

But...But... But I thought one of the reasons we hate President Bush is because of how he has so tarnished our image outside the country. I would think you would want to hear what "foreign nationals" think. Or is it only the foreign nationals who agree with you?

As for "polling data"... I converse regulary with a professional in that game. He often says that you can prove ANYthing with polling data, it is all about how you finesse it. Polls... (In grand Edwinas Secretary fashion)

:rolleyes:

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Hey Puck....how ya doin ???
I see you come in to take a look at our wonderful thread....eh ??? Hehehe.
Wom

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

But...But... But I thought one of the reasons we hate President Bush is because of how he has so tarnished our image outside the country. I would think you would want to hear what "foreign nationals" think. Or is it only the foreign nationals who agree with you?

As for "polling data"... I converse regulary with a professional in that game. He often says that you can prove ANYthing with polling data, it is all about how you finesse it. Polls... (In grand Edwinas Secretary fashion)

:rolleyes:

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Yep....gotta agree with the polls bit you comment about.
But......I guess some people....just don't have anything else to go on....
Hey watch this....... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ....cool huh ???? That's the in thing here at the moment Puck....rolly eyes....funny little things...ain't they ???? LOL

You " converse regulary " ? :D Merrian-Webster is a free site. Check it out
some time.

Maybe that's why sparky keeps you around. You're good for a few laughs
I guess. :D

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

Yep....gotta agree with the polls bit you comment about.
But......I guess some people....just don't have anything else to go on....
Hey watch this....... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ....cool huh ???? That's the in thing here at the moment Puck....rolly eyes....funny little things...ain't they ???? LOL

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THEY :eek: didn't you know that is a derogatory term now.... tsk tsk You intolerant fool :D

Lizbud if you only knew all the things he is good for.... notice I am one of the very few women that doesn't complain about my husband.... I have no complaints ;)

But what do I know.... I just string beads all day right? I'm not worthy ;)

LOL ETA: I just HAD to add this Homer quote.... "Facts Shmacts. You can use facts to prove ANYTHING." gotta love that guy lol.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

You " converse regulary " ? :D Merrian-Webster is a free site. Check it out
some time.

Maybe that's why sparky keeps you around. You're good for a few laughs
I guess. :D

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This is all you got? All you have is to point out a typo?

Figures...

You know Sparks....maybe if you ever posted something vaguely amusing you wouldn't have to write "LOL" and "hahaha" so much. Sort of like a laugh track on tv....since there is nothing remotely funny you need to tell people when to laugh....of course ...just JMHO...or whatever that other thing is.....

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

And he would say to you " You and LH really should stop whatever it is you are smoking lady !!!!"

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You know what Wom, I think he'd probably say something more like (trying out my Pres. Bush impersonation) "I appreciate your taking the time to share your opinion." I get the sense that he's committed to staying in there, at least for now.

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Originally Posted by cassiesmom

You know what Wom, I think he'd probably say something more like (trying out my Pres. Bush impersonation) "I appreciate your taking the time to share your opinion." I get the sense that he's committed to staying in there, at least for now.

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Well....I guess he would say that CM......And rightly so. He has committed his armies plus ours......he should see it out.
Wom
P.S. GREAT impersonation !!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by sparks19

THEY :eek: didn't you know that is a derogatory term now.... tsk tsk You intolerant fool :D

Lizbud if you only knew all the things he is good for.... notice I am one of the very few women that doesn't complain about my husband.... I have no complaints ;)

But what do I know.... I just string beads all day right? I'm not worthy ;)

LOL ETA: I just HAD to add this Homer quote.... "Facts Shmacts. You can use facts to prove ANYTHING." gotta love that guy lol.

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Oh....am I being derogatory again ??? Sorry !!!! Beats the hell out of being arrogant tho....eh ??? LOLOL.....oops.....sorry....shouldn't be posting any LOLs or ROFLS or things like that.....gee....some might think that we have a sense of humour or something. Now we can't have that...eh ????
But....just for the hell of it....I want some rolly eyes.....can I ????
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Wow.....I love em !!!!
Wom

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

You know Sparks....maybe if you ever posted something vaguely amusing you wouldn't have to write "LOL" and "hahaha" so much. Sort of like a laugh track on tv....since there is nothing remotely funny you need to tell people when to laugh....of course ...just JMHO...or whatever that other thing is.....

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Well now you know how the rest of us view your constant use of :rolleyes: We don't need you to tell us you think you are clever ;) We know you think you are clever.... but JMHO if you have something to say you should say it... not cover it up with :rolleyes: Don't be passive aggressive :D

BTW, LOL I thought LOL was stating that I was the one laughing? and just for good measure... LOL

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Originally Posted by cassiesmom

You know what Wom, I think he'd probably say something more like (trying out my Pres. Bush impersonation) "I appreciate your taking the time to share your opinion." I get the sense that he's committed to staying in there, at least for now.

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YOu should try out for MadTV.... that's a better impersonation than their actors give... :D

Plus it would interesting to see a woman playing Bush....no pun intended ;)

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Originally Posted by sparks19

Well now you know how the rest of us view your constant use of :rolleyes: We don't need you to tell us you think you are clever ;) We know you think you are clever.... but JMHO if you have something to say you should say it... not cover it up with :rolleyes: Don't be passive aggressive :D

BTW, LOL I thought LOL was stating that I was the one laughing? and just for good measure... LOL

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I would suggest if my cleverness and writing style offends you...put me on your ignore list. It is what I do with really obnoxious people on here and it makes for a much more pleasant world!

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

I would suggest if my cleverness and writing style offends you...put me on your ignore list. It is what I do with really obnoxious people on here and it makes for a much more pleasant world!

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There you go reading between lines that aren't there ;) another of your specialties.... Where did I say it offends me? I don't get offended.... Im not that sensitive. Being offended only means you care too much.... and I don't... this is strictly for fun :D Or should I say LOL

Of course I could suggest the same to you if my LOL upsets you so. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

I would suggest if my cleverness and writing style offends you...put me on your ignore list. It is what I do with really obnoxious people on here and it makes for a much more pleasant world!

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Epic...

So what you are saying is you ignore people who OWN you eh? How SO typical of the elitist snob you are.

It is the bumps and bruises and how we deal with them that shape who we are. Anybody can "feel good" when they are only surrounded by those who are of the same mind. A TRUE intellectual seeks out differing viewpoints. You choose to "ignore" them. Quite telling, no?

Chew on that....

Puckstop, Chill out.

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Puckstop, Chill out.

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I am quite calm. Either offer a rebuttle or not. Your lack of a real responce is quite deafening.

I am not going to apologize for speaking the truth.

What I am referring to is the use of invective in you post. It doesn't belong here.

After many debates and arguments with ES, Liz, et al, I can assure you that nothing you have posted here is beyond their ability to rebut. The issue, however, is that it gets rather tiring trying to argue with someone who has imbibed the Koolade and gone back with a straw because he might have left a few drops in the pitcher.

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

What I am referring to is the use of invective in you post. It doesn't belong here.

After many debates and arguments with ES, Liz, et al, I can assure you that nothing you have posted here is beyond their ability to rebut. The issue, however, is that it gets rather tiring trying to argue with someone who has imbibed the Koolade and gone back with a straw because he might have left a few drops in the pitcher.

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In other words.... it gets tiring trying to argue with someone that disagrees with your position.

What would you classify as the "koolade" in this thread?

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

What I am referring to is the use of invective in you post. It doesn't belong here.

After many debates and arguments with ES, Liz, et al, I can assure you that nothing you have posted here is beyond their ability to rebut. The issue, however, is that it gets rather tiring trying to argue with someone who has imbibed the Koolade and gone back with a straw because he might have left a few drops in the pitcher.

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Koolade eh? You have NO idea who I really am do you?

If I am so wrong, lets hear it. I am than ready for this debate.
Come on, it should be easy for you really smart people to beat on a koolaide drinker like me.

All air from you so far, no substance. Which is the typical way to rebut decent arguements. Simply pass me off as a koolaide drinker.

Koolade eh? You have NO idea who I really am do you?

If I am so wrong, lets hear it. I am than ready for this debate.
Come on, it should be easy for you really smart people to beat on a koolaide drinker like me.

All air from you so far, no substance. Which is the typical way to rebut decent arguements. Simply pass me off as a koolaide drinker.

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"If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."
Puckstop, we know who you are, you are the kid who loves grape koolaid and argues for no other reason then to start a fight.
If you have something to add to the debate do so, but don't argue just for the heck of it. We respect everyones opinion here even if we don't always agree. People here are fair and thoughtful for the most part regardless of how important they are or think they are. If you need to blow off some steam I suggest a gym.

As our mayor would say........."sigh"

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Epic...

So what you are saying is you ignore people who OWN you eh? How SO typical of the elitist snob you are.

It is the bumps and bruises and how we deal with them that shape who we are. Anybody can "feel good" when they are only surrounded by those who are of the same mind. A TRUE intellectual seeks out differing viewpoints. You choose to "ignore" them. Quite telling, no?

Chew on that....

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Hahahahaha....Puck.....in past posts you always say to us that you just tell the truth as it is. I must admit.....you are right. I am now a believer.
Well done.
Wombat

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Originally Posted by sparks19

In other words.... it gets tiring trying to argue with someone that disagrees with your position.

What would you classify as the "koolade" in this thread?

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Ahhhhh......now we are getting somewhere.
Seems to me there are a couple on this board who have no regard for an alternative point of view....in fact even if it was the SAME point of view, I'm sure they would find fault with that.
And just how would we label such behaviour ????
I think....yes....arrogance.....in every sense of that word.
Wombat

Puckstop, we know who you are, you are the kid who loves grape koolaid and argues for no other reason then to start a fight.
If you have something to add to the debate do so, but don't argue just for the heck of it. We respect everyones opinion here even if we don't always agree. People here are fair and thoughtful for the most part regardless of how important they are or think they are. If you need to blow off some steam I suggest a gym.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhhhhhhh.....Marigold.....I think you are blaming the wrong person here.
I agree with every word you say here....but the perpetrator/s is NOT Puckstop.
Wombat

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Originally Posted by sparks19

There you go reading between lines that aren't there ;) another of your specialties.... Where did I say it offends me? I don't get offended.... Im not that sensitive. Being offended only means you care too much.... and I don't... this is strictly for fun :D Or should I say LOL

Of course I could suggest the same to you if my LOL upsets you so. :eek:

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But Sparksy.....just think of the benefits.
A more pleasant world !!!!
No more arrogance, or people trying to show how smart they are....AND...no more rolly eyes !!!!!
Go for it mate....GO FOR IT !!!! ;)
Wombat

Oh...and just for good measure......... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Wom

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

Puckstop, we know who you are, you are the kid who loves grape koolaid and argues for no other reason then to start a fight.

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Quite the contrary... My life experience has taught me when it is wise to fight and when it is wise to run. I pick and choose my battles.

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If you have something to add to the debate do so, but don't argue just for the heck of it.

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I have and the usual suspects have not had ONE actual responce to anything I have said. Silence is deafening sometimes, eh?

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We respect everyones opinion here even if we don't always agree. People here are fair and thoughtful for the most part regardless of how important they are or think they are. If you need to blow off some steam I suggest a gym.

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I disagree with the first two sentences. As for the 3rd, I have a hockey game tonight, will that do? :)

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

Ahhhhh......now we are getting somewhere.
Seems to me there are a couple on this board who have no regard for an alternative point of view....in fact even if it was the SAME point of view, I'm sure they would find fault with that.
And just how would we label such behaviour ????
I think....yes....arrogance.....in every sense of that word.
Wombat

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Right on target... For some of the participants here, it shows in almost every post they make.

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Right on target... For some of the participants here, it shows in almost every post they make.

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That is very true Puckstop.
Wom

I'm still waiting to find out what exactly was said that leads one to believe we are "koolade" drinkers.

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Originally Posted by sparks19

Well now you know how the rest of us view your constant use of :rolleyes: We don't need you to tell us you think you are clever ;) OL

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"the rest of us?" You mean you, your hubby & wom. 3 dingbats who haven't
a clue about US politics?

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

This is all you got? All you have is to point out a typo?

Figures...

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All the other drivel you spout is not worthy of comment. Grow up boy.

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Originally Posted by gini

As our mayor would say........."sigh"

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Big sigh here. ;) I really need to start on my taxes & ignore these silly
games some youngins play. :p

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Originally Posted by lizbud

"the rest of us?" You mean you, your hubby & wom. 3 dingbats who haven't
a clue about US politics?

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I don't have a clue about US politics?? REALLY? What makes you think that? Because I disagree with your position?

Just an FYI, while my wife is a Canadian I am a natural born US Citizen and have lived here my entire life.

Dingbats... Nice touch. I am still patiently waiting for you to actually rebut my comments, anyone???

Come on ES or LH, why are you ducking out now? Or did you take the "high ground" and simply ignore me? That would figure because you are all of the position of running away when the going gets tough.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

All the other drivel you spout is not worthy of comment. Grow up boy.

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Now THAT is funny.

I'd be afraid to actually comment if I were you too. I am WAY out of your league.

Liz...use the ignore function. It really makes life more pleasant and it is not like you will be missing anything... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You guys need to chill....we finally got rid of the band of crazies and pt is a lovely place again.

It is just funny to see lady's human and es being lumped together...if these folks only knew the history!