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Originally Posted by mike001
I can marry a coloured person and it doesn't guarantee that I will have a coloured child, come now. My neighbor is married to a loured person, they have two white children and one coloured. That's genetics.

As for the White Shepherd rescue you forgot to notice that I said it was founded in Cedar lakes which everyone knows is in the US. But we have two affiliate clubs here who are continuing mark's work because it meant so much to him. So yes, we do have two White Shepherd rescue clubs, unless his brother in law is lying to the press.

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Oh my.... :rolleyes: *keeping mouth shut*

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Originally Posted by NicoleLJ

I am sorry, and thanks for the offer, but if it is not allowed in Canada then I will not bring it in illegally. I just don't work that way. Thanks for the offer though.
Nicole

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Oh no not that- I mean if the company doesnt ship to canada. There are other products like Solid Gold concept bitch and I know they will ship to canada.

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

Oh no not that- I mean if the company doesnt ship to canada. There are other products like Solid Gold concept bitch and I know they will ship to canada.

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Actually no Concept a Bitch is no longer allowed in Canada. I found that out when I tried to get it last year for Sheena.
Nicole

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Originally Posted by NicoleLJ

Actually no Concept a Bitch is no longer allowed in Canada. I found that out when I tried to get it last year for Sheena.
Nicole

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Well see if that link I posted sends to canada. They say they do but 4 days longer for shipping.

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Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

Besides being apalled at your choice of genetics example, as I truly thought you couldn't be more ignorant or rude, You have again proved me wrong on that point!!!



Affiliation with a club is not the same as being Founded. It is an affiliation from a USA based org.

Please restrain yourself from more falsities and uncalled for attacks upon your limited intelligence.

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There was nothing rude or ignorant about my post. I was showining facts. Ryder is from a breeding that produces pandas and now tri colours, so making a comment about pandas was not ignorant either. Although no one seems to know if furrarri and hoofprint are one and the same. Just like getting an arabian from hoofprint, you are guaranteed one thing and find out you have something quite different in the breeding. No, not me personally, but my good friend from Belleville.

As for saying that Mark founded the first White Sheperd resue in Canada, no I didn't say that...I said we now have two White Shepherd Rescues in Canada. Yes they are affiliates of Mark's first rescue in the US. But they are in Canada nonetheless. They are buildings, with staff, and attached kennels
and a lot of volounteer homes, lots of donations, etc.

Didn't notice when you were appointed the post sheriff. Please try to stop misreading my posts and misquoting me like you did by saying I had stated I was diabled.

The only thing I said was that had I been that woman and been asked for ID I would have pulled mine out , does that mean I am disabled??? It simply meant I would not have made a fussHAD it been me.
I also said OUR service dogs wear red and black tags, which they do, does that mean I AM disabled? NO, it means OUR service dogs, MEANING the ones in our town wear red and black tags.
You are sounding more and more like Nicole, I have to wonder if you are her twin or just looking for trouble like she does on 50 other forums.

My friend was kind enough to send me links of all her posts from other places which I must say the rude vulgar venom coming from her was not surprising now that I'm getting to know her.

To spare the other posters from another tirade like they had to go through the other day, I will refrain from posting anymore on the subject .

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

Well see if that link I posted sends to canada. They say they do but 4 days longer for shipping.

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I know so I contacted the dealers of Solid Gold here in Canada and all of them said the same thing. That Canada will not allow Concept a Bitch anymore. So they can not sell it.
Nicole

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Originally Posted by mike001

There was nothing rude or ignorant about my post. I was showining facts. Ryder is from a breeding that produces pandas and now tri colours, so making a comment about pandas was not ignorant either. Although no one seems to know if furrarri and hoofprint are one and the same. Just like getting an arabian from hoofprint, you are guaranteed one thing and find out you have something quite different in the breeding. No, not me personally, but my good friend from Belleville.

As for saying that Mark founded the first White Sheperd resue in Canada, no I didn't say that...I said we now have two White Shepherd Rescues in Canada. Yes they are affiliates of Mark's first rescue in the US. But they are in Canada nonetheless. They are buildings, with staff, and attached kennels
and a lot of volounteer homes, lots of donations, etc.

Didn't notice when you were appointed the post sheriff. Please try to stop misreading my posts and misquoting me like you did by saying I had stated I was diabled.

The only thing I said was that had I been that woman and been asked for ID I would have pulled mine out , does that mean I am disabled??? It simply meant I would not have made a fussHAD it been me.
I also said OUR service dogs wear red and black tags, which they do, does that mean I AM disabled? NO, it means OUR service dogs, MEANING the ones in our town wear red and black tags.
You are sounding more and more like Nicole, I have to wonder if you are her twin or just looking for trouble like she does on 50 other forums.

My friend was kind enough to send me links of all her posts from other places which I must say the rude vulgar venom coming from her was not surprising now that I'm getting to know her.

To spare the other posters from another tirade like they had to go through the other day, I will refrain from posting anymore on the subject .

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OH MY GOD. Ryder has NO PANDA and NO tricoloreds in his pedigree and to say such is an out and out lie. You are such a LIar as you have proven over and over and over agian. And to say what you did about HOOFPRINT, which by the way ios respect over the entire world for producing the most working shepherds in the most avenues is just vulgar. And no furrari and Hoofprint are not and never were one in the same. They are both VERY respected breeders. You posts attacking peopel, organizations and breeders you do not know is astonding. But really goes to show th etype of person you are.

Your lies are there for all to see Mike. All people have to do is read the thread I gave the link to on the very first page and no none of it was take out of contaxt.

As for me. You as your friends like to do is follow me around and harass me. You and your frineds are nothing but stalkers and I can prove it. You on the other hand can prove NOThing about your lies about me.
Nicole

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Originally Posted by NicoleLJ

I know so I contacted the dealers of Solid Gold here in Canada and all of them said the same thing. That Canada will not allow Concept a Bitch anymore. So they can not sell it.
Nicole

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NO www.thomasvetdrug.com says they do . I have the catalog. I put galina on it 3 days ago. she is uh strutting her stuff.. ROFL..

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Originally Posted by mike001

To spare the other posters from another tirade like they had to go through the other day, I will refrain from posting anymore on the subject .

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Probably a very good idea on your part.
Now can you spare us thread hijacking from you? :rolleyes:

http://www.awsaclub.com/gallery/hoof...roffurrari.htm

Here is Ryders pedigree. Since you are choosing to lie about him then prove to me he has a panda or a tri in the lines.
Nicole

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Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

Probably a very good idea on your part.
Now can you spare us thread hijacking from you? :rolleyes:

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AND STAY away from Nicole. ..

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Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

Probably a very good idea on your part.
Now can you spare us thread hijacking from you? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

AND STAY away from Nicole. ..

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i completely agree...your constant bashing is not welcome here

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

AND STAY away from Nicole. ..

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If I was only so lucky. Her stalking of me for teh past year has gotten to be tiring and boring. I wish she would get her own life and stop trying to harrass me. I have more important things to do that deal with liars like her.
Nicole

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Originally Posted by Danegirl2208

i completely agree...your constant bashing is not welcome here

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Thanks you. I am so glad I have this place. I am defiantely making a lot of friends here and learning a lot too.
Nicole

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Originally Posted by NicoleLJ

If I was only so lucky. Her stalking of me for teh past year has gotten to be tiring and boring. I wish she would get her own life and stop trying to harrass me. I have more important things to do that deal with liars like her.
Nicole

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Karen- take a look please..

Refrain from judging lest you judge the wrong person.

I could very easily defend my stand here by showing proof from other posts that were mailed to me in the last 2 days, but it wouldn't be allowed. One thing it did do is open my eyes to the truth about certain people and who bashes who.....it was an eye opener for sure.

Like trying to destroy worthy people's reputation's.
Lying and falsifying about important people.
Vulgar, foulmouthed language and lies the which I have never encountered on the internet.
The list goes on and on and I finally know what it's all about.
Call it..."too close for comfort"

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Originally Posted by mike001

Refrain from judging lest you judge the wrong person.

I could very easily defend my stand here by showing proof from other posts that were mailed to me in the last 2 days, but it wouldn't be allowed. One thing it did do is open my eyes to the truth about certain people and who bashes who.....it was an eye opener for sure.

Like trying to destroy worthy people's reputation's.
Lying and falsifying about important people.
Vulgar, foulmouthed language and lies the which I have never encountered on the internet.
The list goes on and on and I finally know what it's all about.
Call it..."too close for comfort"

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Well then now that you are willing to admit it , then why dont you STOP IT?

Oh that would be too easy.

Again, Michelle, it is all up to proof, in this as in all the others, you have none, against an overwhelming amount of inflammatory and foolish statements on your part.

So much for your not replying with more foolishness. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

Well then now that you are willing to admit it , then why dont you STOP IT?

Oh that would be too easy.

Again, Michelle, it is all up to proof, in this as in all the others, you have none, against an overwhelming amount of inflammatory and foolish statements on your part.

So much for your not replying with more foolishness. :rolleyes:

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me michelle??? pout pout.. :(

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

me michelle??? pout pout.. :(

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I was Referring to mike001 who is also a Michelle

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Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

I was Referring to mike001 who is also a Michelle

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Opps- I forget how many michelles we have. I know you KNOW my record Kym.. sorry- watching the dog show and I got lost.. Sorry kym..

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Originally Posted by mike001

Refrain from judging lest you judge the wrong person.

I could very easily defend my stand here by showing proof from other posts that were mailed to me in the last 2 days, but it wouldn't be allowed. One thing it did do is open my eyes to the truth about certain people and who bashes who.....it was an eye opener for sure.

Like trying to destroy worthy people's reputation's.
Lying and falsifying about important people.
Vulgar, foulmouthed language and lies the which I have never encountered on the internet.
The list goes on and on and I finally know what it's all about.
Call it..."too close for comfort"

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Yeah all of which is exactly what you are doing to me and others. You make me sick. I can show proof as to why this is all going on. I can show proof why you came after me in the first place. Adn why you refuse to stop. I can show proof of your lieing and pretending to be government agencies to scare me out of using my service dog. I can show proof of everything.

You all want to know why this is going on? Here is exactly why. In 2005 my husband wanted a black male GSD to take camping and hunting with him. So I checked out breeders. I contacted one that I loved the look of her dogs on. Still do. She informed me that she indeed had a litter of puppies and 2 of the males were black. One long coated(spoken for) and one short(not spoken for). So we converse and talked and she agreed to sell me the pup when it was old enough. I sent in the money and waited. We got all teh supplies. She constantly sent emails and pics and vet reports of our little guy. We signed the contract and had her written garentee that he was ours. We talked to teh amoutn of over a 100 emails. All of which I still have. About a week and a half before the pup was to come here she told me she was not happy with sending the pup to a home that had an intact female. She had know for over a month and when she accepted th emoney that we had an intacted female. We were buying him on a pet contracted. and she had all the money already. And we were not getting him for breeding. He was to be fixed. Just as Luca is now. She said she was going to up the price to her breeding agreement price and tehn she would be fine. So suddnely a pet qualtiy pup was a breeding quality pup? We refused. We were contracted for a pet quality abnd she already have everything and everything was signed. She said fine then. By this time the kids were estatic and he was already named (luca). Everything was bought and ready. So then about 5 days before he was to be shipped she informs me of the deal she has with the stud owner that the stud owner has first pick of the females but if she doesn't like the females she could end up with a male. She tells me this when I get back form my husbands uncles funeral. My husband was already distraught and this made things so much worse. this was first news to us. This is after all is signed and agreed on and paid for. We had no clue until then that this could happen. So for a full week it was yes you will get the pup, no you won't, yes you will. Till the day before he was scheduled to fly. They the stud owner shows up and takes our pup. So breeder has our money and we have nothing.

All through this I was explaining what was going on in the forums I was on. Remeber I rarely leave the house so my main contact and most of my friedns is online. When the pup was take my whole family was soo upset. So of course I am upset. She has devestated my family. This person has gorgeous dogs(at least to my eyes) but my problem was not with that. it was with her business dealings with me which is what I always posted about with the proof of emails. She did offer us a female black and tan but that was not what we had contracted for and not what my hubby had wanted. So of course we declined. She did send us our money back in the end. But that was not the point. I later found out that we could have sued her for brech of contract if we had not taken our money back. But since we did that ruined that.

She later found out that I posted the events to my friends. And yes I did. I wanted to know if it was normal practice for a breeder to do this to someone. And being Christmas time made it so much more worse since the pup was also to be a present. I have all of the emails form her proving this. Her friedns found out and went on a stalking and lieing campaing agianst me. All because of this one event. And this person, Mike is the last one. She has yet to stop the harassment. The others have. But she refuses to. So now you all know. And I can back it all up. And you all know now why this is going on.
Nicole

As I said, proof is what matters when accusations fly.

You Nicole have provided proof each and every time.

Too bad others couldn't :rolleyes:

Hugs to you Nicole,

big Hugs!!!!

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Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

As I said, proof is what matters when accusations fly.

You Nicole have provided proof each and every time.

Too bad others couldn't :rolleyes:

Hugs to you Nicole,

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Thanks. With all the lies she has spread about me around the internet, and her friends I have been very smart about keeping all the proof. All the emails form teh breeder, all the harassment emails and pms on every forums form them, all the emails pretending to be a government agency that does not exhist, my friends, and and trainer have forwarded me all emails or pms they get form these people also. Plus I now have a post card also from Mike that arrived yesterday where she is agian trying to scare me out of using my service dog. Never works though. I keep all proof. My mother was a paralegal and did not raise a stupid daughter.
Nicole

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

big Hugs!!!!

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Thank you. Don't squeeze too hard or I might get sick. lol very sensitive stomach right now. lol
Nicole