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I couldn't agree more, I dittio all your post but I don't get it, it seems like people are just stopping and letting this happen instead of trying to convince the person not to get the dog like they used to.(Not saying everyone)Quote:
Originally Posted by bckrazy
Pugs would be the dog to make sure the parents are all health certified because of all the possible health problems and if not bred right you can imagine those issues worsen making it cost more for you in vet bills. Someone said ( I can't remember who)
" It's better to spend the money on a health certified healthy puppy then to pay double the cost of the dog back in vet bills from a cheap "breeder". "
Why didn't you go to a shelter?
Buttercup- opinions aside- but you do not know what you are talking about. This breeder is far from it, and quite frankly... jeez... New members or not- you FAIL to understand people have experiences outside of this site- and this is not the first time you have come after someone based on how long they have been a member HERE.. I am also reporting your post to Karen..
It's up now under this topic Dogs General.
Ahhhhhhhh I just found it - thank you applesmom! I love your posts- always have!Quote:
Originally Posted by applesmom
I am a 'newer' member here and have never understood the whole BYB thing.. yes I know what goes on in them and know that the dogs most likely will have health problems and stuff but in all honesty I don't see anything wrong with adopting a BYB puppy other than the fact that you're 'supporting' it by giving the BYB money.. but as for the dogs themselves they deserve to be loved too just as much if not more than 'respectable bred pups'. They've lived horrible lives and deserve any love anyone can find in their heart to give. Don't just push them aside or 'dispose of them'. All that is is murdering an innocent dog just because it has health issues. That's no better than 'disposing of' a disabled child!
I have a response for this comment too, but I'm not going to get into it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BaileysMom
If someone wants to start another discussion regarding BYB and let junescrater enjoy talking about her puppy, that would be great.
I disagree with where you are getting your pup from just by first impressions on their site alone, but we aren't going to change your mind nor are we going to change your Dad's mind. And who knows, perhaps the breeder isn't actually so bad. Not everyone is great at creating websites and taking the greatest of pictures to show off a dogs' good qualities. So, congratulations on your new addition and I wish you all the best. There's no doubt in my mind that he will very much be loved and have a great home, but I hope for your sake as well as the pup's, that he will be free of serious health issues. :)
And Buttercup, the pup isn't deformed as far as I can tell. Sure, he has a white stripe on his head. So what? It's a mismark. A breeder would not cull pups with mismarks in most cases, and they also wouldn't sell them for next to nothing. Maybe a little less, but close to the same price as the standard coloured puppies. And I also wouldn't go as far as to say that she shouldn't own a dog period. That's extremely rude and uncalled for. How would you feel if someone told you the same thing? Think about it. I don't want you to reply to me in this thread as it has already gone way off topic, but you really, really need to think before you "speak" sometimes on PT. That being said, I'm glad you edited your post.
By the way- puppies can have a "cow lick" on the muzzle and it is totally normal..
Even in the best of breedings, mismarks can occur. That just means the dog can not be shown in confirmation. I had a well bred poodle when I was a child ( the reason I got into showing dogs in the first place....) and she had a tiny white spot on her chest. She also was the best obedience dog I ever or ever will have- . I got her when I was 8 years old, and the whole reason I got serious about dogs from her success in the obedience ring- etc.
I am not even totally convinced its a white strip. It looks like a cow lick as the hair reverses. Sometimes as the head grows, this becomes more normal in appearance.
In any reason- shape or form- junes wants another pug- has talked about it for over a year, and even said several times she hoped she could find a black one. Its her pet, and we all have the right to have the breed we want- alias the reason we even have breeds...
before you go judging "the board" you need to realize that most of board now are KIDS who don't know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by bckrazy
a dog can have health problems where ever it comes from. I am not in favor of BYB but whatever. I also know that people feel very passioniate about them but what you are forgetting is junescrater is a KID! so she doesn't care about our opinion one iota.
Buttercup - 2 steps forward 3 steps back - everytime I think you are getting better you do something to prove me wrong. And its always worse then before. The Majestic Collies thing, this, geez - I don't understand why you are allowed here either. Never have. OH and what about taking a pet to the shelter and exchanging it for another one - I didn't know shelters were like Walmart. I seriously don't get where your elitist attitude comes from you have no right.
APPLAUSE..... Thank you...Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
We all have what we want. As many of you know, I looked into for a long time adding a dog into my house to compete in obedience with, but have the calm enough attitude to live with 4 Borzois. Right about the time I gave up, Major SHOWED up.. We all have to consider what fits into the household, what we want in a breed, and she has stated for a year she wants a pug- perferably black! She found one- it checks out well enough, and its what she wants and affordable. We should be happy for her- its her new baby, and its funny when someone shows up with a mix breed- strange markings and all - we "ohhh" and "aww"- but does she get the same ? From most yes- ...
JUNES- "OHHHHH"- " AWWWWW" " HOW PRECIOUS AND CUTE PUPPY! GOOD LUCK WITH HIM- YOU MUST BE THRILLED!"
Yeah. I just read all this. How can people be as so cruel that someone is so excited about a new puppy, and they have to drag down on it. Junes, congrats on the new pup! I know you're probably on edge with excitement and counting down the days that will go ever so slowly. I've been there...lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangutango
Wow, this is going so off topic.
I'm glad it was brought up that she is young, I love the way people preach on this board. At the end of the day this dog is born and needs a loving home and she is offering just that. If she wasn't an animal lover she wouldn't of joined this site. So its obvious she is looking out for the dogs interest.
Amen muddypaws!!!
I want to apologize to you Junes about my first comment.. I am really happy for you and so thankful that you are willing to open your heart and home to this little guy. Congratulations. He sounds like a little sweetheart. And trust me from experience.. the 'imperfect' dogs are the ones with the biggest hearts. Just look at Bailey.. I wish you the best of luck.
That sweet face of Bailey looks like " welcome newcomer puppy"... Man I love that face!
lol thanks =) i'll have to get some new pics.. omg i feel horrble! i didn't get any of him yesterday! ok i'm officially a horrible mom =(.
again junes, congrats from bailey and me
lol Thanks guys!!! Only 6 or 7 days!!! lol :D
:D he's soooooooooooooo cute! you have to put up more photos of him once he's home for a while!!!! ( can't wait to see more pics!!!!!!!) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by junescrater716
I'll try if we ever get another disposable camera. lol our old actual camera broke. :(
not uh that uh you are counting though... lolll. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by junescrater716
Oh I'm counting!!! The puppy comes on the 21st or 22nd!!! EEEEEKKKK!!!! SOOOOO EXCITED!!!!
Sorry if this comes across as being rude, but why do you want one from a breeder? Like, no offence, but why get one from a breeder that is mis-marked anyways? Mis-marked dogs can't do confrimation, anyways. I'm excited for you, but I really don't understand why you would want one from a breeder. :confused:
You could get one from the SPCA that is cheaper and just as good, and *might* even be healthier.
:) I'm excited for you, (but more excited for puppy pics :p )
Because he's adorable, cheap, spunky, and we don't care about whether or not we can show them. He's getting neutered anyways so he couldn't show even then.
I'm sorry your camera broke! :( But think of it this way at least your getting that black pug puppy you always wanted!! :D lolQuote:
Originally Posted by junescrater716
Well, she won't be showing the dog so a mismark is no big thing. And maybe they wanted to go to a breeder because they wanted a puppy, they were looking for a specific color, and they want to be able to meet the parents. I went to breeders for certain reasons myself.
What TFT said. lol We will be meeting the breeder sometime next week. Still my mom might be coming home AFTER the puppy arrives so we'll have a big red bow around his neck for her!!!
Don't take this the wrong way, I am truly excited for you, but I don't think this breeder is the best out there. If you want just a 'pet' pug, I suggest going to a nearby rescue or shelter and adopt a pug in need of a home. They are 'cheap' and are the ones that really need the homes. Just a thought. But yeah, the breeders dont look too 'good', for lack of better words. They dont do many testings and pugs are prone to many health problems. Just MHO...
Pugs are REALLY hard to find in shelters especially black ones. Most rescued pugs are old, sick, and not trained. Believe me we looked.
Besides my dad already sent the deposit check. lol
AWW- that is sweet!Quote:
Originally Posted by junescrater716
yeah I cannot wait until he gets here!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :D :eek: :p
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Originally Posted by GreyhoundGirl
This is nothing against you, but I'm just curious as to why you don't think someone should get a dog from a breeder if it's mismarked? When I get my Toller, I'll be getting her from a breeder and don't care if she's mismarked or not. She'll "just" be a pet. Lots of people go to breeders even if they just want a family pet, not a conformation dog. I see nothing wrong in that. Sure, rescuing is great, but not everyone wants to do that for various reasons..
Yeah, my main reason for going to a breeder and not a shelter was the fact that I knew I wasn't ready for a dog that "may" have baggage. I knew if the dog wound up messed up that was my fault.....lol. :)
yeah. We just can't ever find the breed we're looking for at shelters and if we did it would already be held.
Agree on the above 2 posts--both my dogs are from breeders who show, though we got "pet quality" puppies because that was what was available and we didn't plan on showing. The golden is way too big (100 pounds) and the English Cocker has a white mark on her chest (she's black, so that would disqualify her). For myself, I wanted to raise the puppies and I wanted a relatively guaranteed temperament, which I got. Not everyone supports rescue by adopting or fostering the dogs, some contribute money or time to shelters or rescue organizations, so some of the holier than thou posters should think before they spout off.
Contratulations on the pug, she looks adorable. My only suggestion--think about who will be able to be with her each day after you get her. We got our Jake just before Christmas (the breeder wouldn't usually do that, but I begged and must have seemed responsible...) and had to go to a Christmas party on his third day, he was very upset to be in his crate. You dont' always think about all the running around that you might need to do.
Jakesmoom
Don't worry Jakesmom I will be home with him for the next two weeks due to winter break. I know how to train the puppy to sit, stay, down, up, and heel, I can also potty train him since I had to help out with Curly.
I trained Curly so I'll be able to train this one. It'll be fine. We'll have everything set up. We don't believe in crates so we will just lug him around everywhere. lol
I must admit I have had a pug around once and they just have an adorable temperment. He was a Senior Foster that we let live out his golden years from a rescue. I was just always worried I would step on him. lol Congrats on your new baby.
Thanks Majestic!!! 5 or 6 more days!!!!
EEEEEEEEkKK My dad said hes coming on Friday!!!! WOO HOO!!! 6 Days to go!!!