Well soorry I thought she meant something else, and I don't want to get myself a bad reputation here but some of the posts I have been seeing have been extremely rude..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kfamr
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Well soorry I thought she meant something else, and I don't want to get myself a bad reputation here but some of the posts I have been seeing have been extremely rude..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kfamr
Well honey- I hate to say this, but when my daughter was probably your age, the internet was supposed to be off at a certain time.Quote:
Originally Posted by WarahGirl1995
I am sorry, but you gave us the impression your were grounded because of something with this situation.
The dog did nothing wrong. No one really saw what happened, and it sounds like to me he jumped up either because of the whistle or whatever, and scratched your brothers eye.
When you have big dogs, and younger kids, constant supervision is necessary. All we have now is a confused dog, your brothers cut on his eye, you are grounded for getting on line where are arent supposed to- and that seems like the facts judging by the responses..
BTW- are you supposed to be on line now????
exactly! just because it was an accident does NOT make him a bad dog!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by k9krazee
noooooooooooo junes you are not the peanut gallery.. roflll.. We were posting at the same time and didnt see you.. I am sorry junes.. lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by junescrater716
Well lets not call each other names.. Nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion- but lets not call each other names and remember please- this is a discussion board.. If you dont want something discussed- dont post it.. okay???Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicForPets
Lol.
Did he bite your brother? NO. What he did was not bad. A LOT of dogs jump up and can easily knock a kid to the floor and injure them..on accident! IMO, it's your guy's fault for not having trained him to know it's unexceptable to jump up on people. And if he was startled, then perhaps leaving a dog unattended in a group of small children isn't the best thing. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by WarahGirl1995
Your mom should seriously reconsider her thoughts on having him euthanized. Maybe it's in his best interest to be rehomed into a family that actually cares enough to get him trained and will not punish him for simply being what he is, a DOG!
yes please re read what I wrote about Zubin- and a broken leg is much more serious than a scratch on the eye.. When I had shepherds and a small child etc I was like a hawk if the dogs were with my child. No because of any danger, but to prevent accidents.
As somebody said- when training a puppy, get a thick newspaper and roll it up real tight- take a rubber band and tie each end up and when the puppy messes up- hit YOURSELF ON THE HEAD WITH THE NEWSPAPER- YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE DOG... LOL..
Heck I have a scar on my eye it's not that bad. and I have a PUG!!! lol Your brother will be fine I'm just worried about Rupert!
Hold on a minute? YOU just asked us if what Rupert did was bad. We gave you are opinions and then you come back and change your tune. First of all, Rupert needs training and you as an owner are supposed to give that to him. How the heck is locking him in a garage going to do anything? That might lead to worse problems. Did you ever stop and think this could have possibly been your brothers fault? I doubt it. If you know what you post is going to cause a problem then why would even post it? Putting Rupert to sleep for such a stupid thing is probably the dumbest thing I've heard in my entire life.Quote:
Originally Posted by WarahGirl1995
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Originally Posted by Maltese_Love
Hey, folks, calm down. Keep in mind that it was her mother who talked about putting Rupert down, and that was in the heat of the moment. Do not attack warrahgirl for something her mother - who is of course, the adult, and ultimately the responsible party - said.
Instead of titling it "Rupert hurt my brother" maybe it should be the other way around?
wareh- I think Karen is right- it was said in the heat of the moment by your mother. As parents, sometimes we all say things we shouldnt at one time or another. Maybe you should sit down and talk to your mother about what she said. Maybe she didnt even realize you heard what she said- explain to her that scared you, and upset you.
One year I got mad trying to get a christmas tree up by myself. I was wrestling with the stupid thing for like 20 minutes, when I muttered to myself- "remind me to get a fake tree next year."" It took me about 20 minutes to realize my daughter had left the room. I thought she went to get some ornament boxes- I found her crying in her room. She thought I was serious, and I felt like an idiot to mutter something like that loud enough for my 5 year old to hear... I apologized to her seriously, and told her I didnt mean it at all and was very sorry. Parents forget that children take their words seriously- I mean sometimes we say things and they dont listen but we have to remember- they do listen when we dont think they would.. Maybe thats what happened here- .. why dont you go talk to her- if you can.. Start out with this " Mom- can I talk to you a minute-..."
Explain to your mom that obedience training will cost less than euthanasia at a vet's office. :cool:
Chants: Obedience Training, Obedience Training, Obedience Training.... (hehe)
No need to get all worked up about this and start arguments.
I believe how you corrected him was wrong. Dogs live in the NOW not the BEFORE. He doesn't know why your punishing him, he just knows your very upset with him for no particular reason. As others mentioned, Rupert probably got upset or excited from the wistle. From what it sounds like, he just scratched your brother by mistake. No reason to even consider putting him down. Just my two cents.
Have you & your mom checkout/get a book called "Don't Shoot the Dog"
It about some training methods you can use, and understanding a dogs behavior. It's easy to read. Then you can take him for some classes as well. Dogs need teaching like a young child does. They need to know the limits & rules, but they have to be able to understand when you are teaching them. This book will help explain that.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...283155&s=books
you'll find great reviews of the book listed :)
I just notice a lot of irresponsibility in your family. Honestly, that's the only problem I see here. Maybe not you... but it seems like your parents find dogs disposable and not worth training & spending time on. If my parents threatened to put my dogs to sleep, I would definitely re-home them where time was spent training. Actually, I'd move out, but that's not an option for you.
Furthermore... NO DOG, not even the most mild-mannered, should be left alone with little kids. Especially rowdy, misbehaved little kids as you describe your siblings to be. It sounds like your grandmother would not be able to handle or stop them from mistreating poor Rupert. I don't think that is acceptable at all. I would nevereverever leave my little brother alone with Gonzo OR Fozzie, even though they've never shown any aggression or over-excitedness with him, because the two cannot be trusted together, period. Only your parents/you/your grandmother are to blame for the whole thing, IMO.
It is most likely one of her friends Kfamr,Remeber her last post about Max she has all her friends on here causing a rukas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kfamr
Ok then your grounding had nothing to do with Rupert right?Quote:
Originally Posted by WarahGirl1995
warah, have you tried whistle lightly (with your mother there) and see how rupert behaved? playful or vicious? you mentioned your brother only had a cut above his eye, I promise you it was a playful accident. or else, his face would'va been full of bite wounds, punctures down his chin, cheek and nose. just not a while ago, one of hyper labs I live with, couldn't wait patiently until I let go of a ball, she went ahead and tried to take it, she loves balls! her claw accidently scrrrraped down my kneeskin! we do get "playful" cuts sometimes and playful isn't bad, at all. that's why we think rupert is not bad. gosh, look at that sweet chocoboy in your picture, he looks so friendly.
my dog, crayola looooves whistle sounds, gets so excited, but doesn't jump. if my dog can learn that then your rupert absolutely can too. putting him in garage is like your father grounding you a week later.. you wouldn't understand, right? this is like to dog's mind, always discipline at the very moment of his incorrect behavior because dogs can't understand your descriptive words you speak after.
I hope he's out of garage by now, poor poor rupert. and how is your brother now?
OK, I cant reply to everyone but I will try to answer it right here.
First of, My mom was mad, really mad, and she took it back. And I was pretty mad too, when he jumped up on him I was only think about my brother. i was scared for him. He is only 6 and he is half his size.... I'm so sorry for treating him like a 'bad' dog. He does have ear problems and he was just say "Shut up that hurts my ears" But I had to tell him that he cant do that again. I might have done that in the wrong way. And I'm sorry.
And I wasn't grounded for any reason... that had to do with Rupert. I really dont want to be rude,but you guys shouldn't be either. Could we just not fight over this anymore. I was mad at that moment, and it killed me to see my brother almost dead on the ground, it scared me. If anyone else was ever wiht a loved one when they were heart and you were doing things that you wished you hadn't done.
I hope that we ALL cool down a bit.Because its not really worth getting all mad about.......
So has the whistle been put away so your brother cannot use it again, I hope?
Glad Rupert's not in danger, I hope you have been working with both brother and Rupert so they can be friends, and your brother can learn more about what you can and cannot do around Rupert.
.. She said it was because she was on line when she wasnt supposed to be. Rupert didnt turn the computer on- he was in the garage..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lori Jordan
Now wareh you are blaming rupert for being grounded.. which is it honey? Just trying to get a clear picture here... Your explanation changed in one page..
wareh" Because school started and they don't want me on, so when I went on I got grounded since I already got warned not too... I wanted to tell you guys about this and obviously it was a mistake School was out today because of the floods coming through, and that's why I'm on today"
Ok,Now you are saying he was almost dead,You are totally turning your story around, :rolleyes:
:confused: How was your brother almost dead? You said he only had a scratch above his eye?
and no one saw it, and grounded for being on line- now that is ruperts fault too... I am soooooooo confused...
I think it reasonable to assume that, since she is young herself, and her brother was knocked to the ground with some blood visible (from the cut), it would be a gut reaction to wonder how badly he was hurt. Might even flash thru the mind, 'is he dead'?
I thought Karen's response was apt, and the rest after that are picking nits.
Someone once said to me, "You can be right - or you can be happy."
And I am not right here...this is just my opinion.
hugs to all, and no more whistles around Rupert, ok? :)
yea I could see that reaction in a child. You are right..
yeah really! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maltese_Love
Oh jeez this is going way too far from my point of view :rolleyes:
It's true that your brother couldn't be almost dead from a scratch above his eye, and I believe you are over reacting, which I do sometimes, but why does everyone have to get all worked up about it :confused:
And I thought you said Rupert bit your brother, not jumped on him. If he jumped on him that would be a whole nother story...
Also, if your sister was there, did she tell you the story? Your sister, being 8, could have been over reacting. Maybe the dog really was just playing, not viciously trying to kill your brother. Know what I mean?
I think he just scratched her brother with his paw by accident.
You and i both know we will never hear the truth,But as of now and staying away from this post it is all lies,I reall do feel for Rupert and hope he is never put in any other situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvofallhorses
Warah Girl: I think it would be beneficial to you and everyone here if you try to think before you post on a public board. Calm down first and then open a discussion. Alot of confusion could have been avoided.
When reading something that is written, rather than said, things can be misunderstood and the situation spirals out of control in a very short time. Think before you speak. I would also recommend not posting statements that were made in anger.
I hope your brother is okay. Since the whistle obviously irritates Rupert, please put it away so this won't happen again. Please give Rupert some kisses and hugs from us. :)
I agree! Later after typed in anger, it looks like lies.
I mean i worried about you wareh, and rupert and your mother and your brother.... I would rather not have such a rollercoaster of statements that dont add up at the time...
You are talking to real people- people that get concerned about you and your situation. Some of this is massively concerning... In allllllll directions- such as is the dog being treated fairly- are YOU being treated fairly- is the dog being put to sleep? is your brother seriously hurt with no medical care????
You must understand our concern... This isnt a chat- its real people that care... !
Well said borzoimom. We are all real people with real feelings. Please consider that we will react to what we read. There's no need to cause unnecessary worry and frustration. :)