I guess temperament gets thrown right out the window then! :eek: How very sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suki Wingy
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I guess temperament gets thrown right out the window then! :eek: How very sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suki Wingy
In my opinion, the only people who should be breeding are the people out there to better a breed. They breed to the standard and breed not only for appearance, but for temperament, health, and working ability also (IMO, appearance should be alst on the list...it is important, but not as important as the other two). They health test for any possible problem the dog may have. They show their dog in something. Be it conformation shows, working trials, etc. all in an effort to evaluate who is of breeding quality and who is not. A responsible breeder will only breed a dog to another dog if they think those two dogs are going to be an improvement to the breed.
Not to be rude, but you don't seem like a responsible breeder at all to me. You seem to be breeding just to have a new addition to your family because you/your family happened to like your Grandparent's dog. Everyone else has already said anything that I would've said, so I'm not going to go into anymore detail. I have no answer to your original quation, as I'm not a breeder and have no idea why things like that happen.
temperament is a given! I'm sorry, I thought it was so obvious it didn't need to be said. I'm hurt. Maybe you want to check out my website. http://www.freewebs.com/orinocodals/about.html
I dont think that at all. Just because a dog has won titles dosent mean it should automatically be bred. BUT if you wanted to breed you dog I think it should have won some titles and be shown. Wich to me includes a good temperment and health.Quote:
Does that mean just because a dog has a good show career or descendents who have done well they should automatically be bred? What ever happened to breeding for temperament and health? I'm sorry but I would NEVER support a breeder who breeds just for show.
Or a working dogs. Like a champion herding Border Collie.
Obviously not, as it wasn't mentioned. No need to be hurt. It's a comment and nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suki Wingy
At first I was getting offended by some of these posts and trying to defend myself and my reasons for what I do. How silly of me I should of realised that we do breed our dogs for temperment over chest bredth or acheiving a blue ribbon in a show. We have bred for health and temperament and we are really happy with our well loved and cherished pets. thankyou for those who have offered helpful opinions and cheery attitudes for those who flet they had to put down and attack I am terribly sorry that you are having a bad day and I do hope it gets better thankyou
There are many breeders out there who do not show their dogs and their puppies have gone on to win tons of shows and titles! So they must be doing something right. You don't need to show the parents in order to evaluate the pups and their improvement each year and as the line progresses.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttercup132
I breed rats (taking a break for awhile) and most of my girls and guys have never been shows. Mostly due to health risks and I also do not drive. There are no shows nearby. But I KNOW what a show quality rat is. It is something you learn as the years go by. I breed for show, temperament and health, then for colors and coat type etc. I have had many of my babies win in shows. There are litters I breed just for pets and solely for that purpose, simply because the parents are so darn socialy and friendly and that is super important to me in any line of rats I breed. After all, what's the use of having a gorgeous dumbo russian blue rex berkshire if you can't even pick the thing up! I'd rather buy a plant.
First off all, I want to say that I think breeding your dog is irresponsible and I don't agree with it if your dog is not a Ch. show dog or something... "breeding to love" is rather pathetic if you ask me. Esspecialy with a breed like pit bulls... there are plenty of pit bull breeders out there and PLENTY in the pound.
Second of all, I think you should have educated yourself on this before breeding.
Bre (flatcoatlvr) probably doesn't disagree with breeding, just not breeding a dog that doesn't have a CH. or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by mydogflick
Staffys are NOT going to get wiped out, there are plenty out there and plenty in the pound, too.
sorry Zoomer but our dog is NOT a pitull by any means and In Australia our dogs dont actually have a ch in front of theyre names so please forgive me if I am getting a little lost with that. As for pathetic ? Pathetic is ridaculling (sp) anyone for anything without out trying to first collate all the relevent information. Please try to keep it nice
How about we all Agree to Disagree????:D
I have yet to meet a breeder who bred to show. To the standard, yes. (and surprise, surprise - the almighty standard is there for a reason... and it's hardly just about looks to responsible breeders.)Quote:
Originally Posted by mydogflick
What health testings DO you do on the parents? (I deleted my previous message to move it here).
I don't agree with people just breeding a pet because they love it and think it has a good disposition. I don't agree with breeding to carry on a line.Quote:
Originally Posted by mydogflick
I agree with breeders who breed RESPONSIBLY, for the best of the breed, are out there in the world showing, sporting their animals, people who have homes lined up for most of the pups before they are born, etc.
ok here I go again defending myself again silly silly me
All our dogs wether they are to be used for breeding or not are all tested for Hip Dysplasia, cataracts, demodicosis brachycephalick syndrome,as well as the usual heartworm and other generic non breed specific tests
Oh come on, not fair. You specifically asked BC_Mom to give you her opinion of who should be breeding. When she gives you her opinion without any reference to your situation you act as if you have been attacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by mydogflick
My personal opinion as to why I feel a dog should have some sort of titles (be it working or conformation) is that it shows that someone (actually more than just one someone) objective with a knowledge of the breed standards (which includes temperment) has evaluated that dog/bitch and decided that it is among the best that the breed has to offer. I know there are probably show peopla out there cringing because this judge or that judge is biased in some way. But the beauty of showing again in working class or conformation is that several people have looked over your dog. Left to our own opinions, fortunately or unfortunately, too many of us would decided that our dog is the most beautiful. smartest, sweetest dog of it's breed. But that is just my opinion.