Racist Song?

Oh Richard do I now have to give up my signed oringanl copy of Little Black Sambo too?
I get so tired of changing history to suit some group. Hey as said before we all have had some kind of crap hapen to us , I'm scottish/prussian , my ansestors finaly found a place in the New world that became America. We had to leave England or be killed ( long family history story) .
I say live your life not the past of your family or culture.
Sorry but this stuff really pisses me off.
By the way are we now going to wreck the song John Henry for me too?

I am not PC at all...I can see how some people would be offended by some things, but, some things...like this...I just don't see the point in getting that sad. I don't get bent out of shape when I see a big white chef sculpture outside of a cafe, holding a sign with a daily special. I think people perpetuate a lot of the problems they experience in life. All colors experience racism, and, there are many that make it worse for themselves. Not to say that there aren't true racists, because there most certainly are. I know a few. That song is so pathetically not important.

As other examples, in Disney movies...they won't even sell one of my favorites The Song of the South, because Uncle Remus is black and they make a little decoy out of tar and put eyes and a hat on it and refer to it as a tar baby. It's a little kid made out of tar. Tar's black. And, I grew up in places where white was minority, and, I don't remember that term being used even then, it's not something that even gets used much anymore to refer to black people. And, Dumbo. A lot of people want that film taken off the market because the circus workers are all black. And, taking classic books out of circulation, like Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer.

Good and bad, it's all part of history. Part of knowing mistakes people have made in the past is learning from them and hopefully not repeating them. People need to know that racism like that existed...that it still does. In twenty years or less, they're going to ban films like American History X.

Anyway, my brain is all over the place. Sorry if I'm rambling.

And the price of all those bans and all of this will be forced ignorance on childrens part, once again starting the cycle of hatred fear and awfulness, Man is doomed to repeat the past until he learns from it,only then will things change. As posted earlier my husband is Indian and if he and his family feel it is a minor issue then I refuse to allow it to be an issue for our kids or our grands. He has more of an issue with actual stereotypes that are harmful, i.e. that all irishmen are drunks, that all blacks are criminalistic, that all indians are theives, that all whites are bad. those thought processes hurt people and their lives. A song or a wooden indian isnt, and shouldnt be used as a weapon they are both art forms and in truth nobody likes all forms of art all the time. Somedays I wonder if we don't have too much time on our hands to worry over petty things and forget to worry about the big things just an opinion

I find it humourous. I mean it seems the very people that are screaming out for equality are in fact the ones pointing out that they are "different". They say we shouldn't notice colour, religion, sex etc etc. Yet they are forcing others to see them that way by demanding they be called by a certain name. For example, I am Caucasion (sp? lol) You can call me white, you can call me pale, heck you can call me cracker if you really want to. I DON"T CARE. I don't force people to look at what my colour or creed is. I don't force people to tip toe around me because God forbid they say something that might be misconstrued as racism. No one calls me an English American or what have you. Why must people label themselves as native american, Authentic Alaskan (whatever the h*ll that is), African American. If you think about it, aren't those terms Un-PC. Just because someone is black (yes I said it) does not mean they are from Africa etc, etc.

If we are forced to acknowledge them by such names how are we supposed to see past their colour. they are forcing us to recognize it.


A little humour though .... While at our cottage up in Northern Canada, we frequently pass a restaurant called.... The Wop and Frog restaurant. LOL It's owned by an Italian and a French guy LOL I thought it was kinda cute. And the little logo guy is a frog with a big black mustache and a chefs hat lol

I agree on all the above! :) I think it is rather far-fetched to name the lyrics racist, and I'm sure that it was never intended that way by the authors/songwriters! I conceive it is as a love story - along the lines of the story by H.C. Andersen: "The Shepherdess and the Chimney-Sweep"/"The Steadfast Tin Soldier".

I think it is more offensive that the ... hm... "lady" in question would flaunt her bible during staffmeetings! :rolleyes:

Lots of love,
Sus and Bella

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I think it is more offensive that the ... hm... "lady" in question would flaunt her bible during staffmeetings! :rolleyes:

Lots of love,
Sus and Bella[/QUOTE]


Definately. I would just consider the source.

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Originally Posted by IRescue452

Its not the song that really gets to me. Its the classic "indian" figure. The fact that they are made to be mascots and figures selling cigars with a big hat of feathers and an axe. It gives people the idea that they aren't real humans, like they are novelties. It also bothers me that indians and eskimos are the only human beings used in childrens' alphabet books, while the rest of the items are objects and animals. I probably wouldn't make her stop singing it, I'd probably have gone back to my desk an sat there all depressed thinking about it.

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Let's change the "I" to idiot and the "E" to entomologist

and let's toss all the indians performing ceremonial dances, dressed up a Chief
Big Feather Polically Incorrect, into jail.

(Damn it will be good to strip the AMerinds of all their dignity,,,,You'd think that the firewater and reservations would have calmed everyone down.) :eek:

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when I read the story about LBS the only thing I could thinkabout is how good those pancakes with that tiger butter must have tasted..

And what a talent and smarts....he had to get them to melt,

Now I have to settle for Tiger Milk Bars......THERE AIN"T NO TIGER IN THEM!

Get rid of the Exxon Tiger, the Luck Charms leprachaun, the Froot Loops Toucan!

What about Frank Zappa?


Dreamed I was an eskimo
Frozen wind began to blow
Under my boots and around my toes
The frost that bit the ground below
It was a hundred degrees below zero...

And my mama cried
And my mama cried
Nanook, a-no-no
Nanook, a-no-no
Dont be a naughty eskimo
Save your money, dont go to the show

Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said oh, oh oh
Well I turned around and I said ho, ho
And the northern lights commenced to glow
And she said, with a tear in her eye
Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow
Watch out where the huskies go, and dont you eat that yellow snow

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Originally Posted by sparks19

If we are forced to acknowledge them by such names how are we supposed to see past their colour. they are forcing us to recognize it.


A little humour though .... While at our cottage up in Northern Canada, we frequently pass a restaurant called.... The Wop and Frog restaurant. LOL It's owned by an Italian and a French guy LOL I thought it was kinda cute. And the little logo guy is a frog with a big black mustache and a chefs hat lol

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I totally agree with you. I read something that talked about how America is becoming, and, one thing that stuck with me is that America used to be called "the melting pot", but, now, it's more of a tossed salad. It's becoming more about pointing out everyone's differences than concentrating on the similarities. I think it's important to keep your individuality, but, first and foremost, we are all human.

I think that's awesome! The restaurant! That's funny! And, I don't care what people call me, either. You could even call me a honky if you wanted. ;) I have never been able to refer to anyone as **** American. Maybe except Native American, just to differentiate between "indians" from North America and Indians from India. But, I have never had any of my black friends (and where I grew up, that's all I had) say they minded if I called them black instead of African American. My friend Lovette actually laughed and said, "heck, none of my family is from africa." ;)

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...But, I have never had any of my black friends (and where I grew up, that's all I had) say they minded if I called them black instead of African American. My friend Lovette actually laughed and said, "heck, none of my family is from africa." ;)

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I saw Whoopie Goldberg on a show once. I loved what she said. I won't be able to quote her exactly, but she said something liked ~ Don't call me African American. I don't want anything to come between me and being an American.
I few years ago there was something on the news about Tiger Woods asking him how he wanted to be referred to. Was he African American? A Thailand American? An African-Thailand American? He responded something that was full of hyphens because his Mom's genetic background was mixed of several ethnic groups and so was his father's. I found myself wishing that he had just said, "I am an American".

I'm rarely pc, everybody is an American, so I don't have to worry about terms of correctness, if only the rest of the country would get that through their skull. I wanted to be an entomologist for a long time. I never drink and neither does my family, but you know if I had the money I'd move back on the reservation in a heartbeat. There just aren't any jobs to be had there. We stick out like sore thumbs here in Dutchland. Whenever I hear people trying to come up with pc terms I am so amused. People are so scared to offend others. I just wish they'd wise up about certain things, like black people not coming from Africa, they are Americans. I always imagine the white man coming to America years ago, thinking they were in India and calling the natives "Indians". Now, centuries later, they still haven't figured out we aren't Indians. You hicks are so stupid. How's that for pc.

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Originally Posted by kuhio98

I saw Whoopie Goldberg on a show once. I loved what she said. I won't be able to quote her exactly, but she said something liked ~ Don't call me African American. I don't want anything to come between me and being an American.
I few years ago there was something on the news about Tiger Woods asking him how he wanted to be referred to. Was he African American? A Thailand American? An African-Thailand American? He responded something that was full of hyphens because his Mom's genetic background was mixed of several ethnic groups and so was his father's. I found myself wishing that he had just said, "I am an American".

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My parent's liked to say that we were "Croatian Americans) and I guess that makes sense since they grew up speaking Croatian first and foremost and only English in Public and School. BUT that was then and This is NOW. My kids are told they are AMERICAN, just like all of their friends. Just like Whoopie, Tiger, JFK, George Bush, Michael Jordan or George Lopez! People of my Ethnic background around my parts are sometimes referred to as "MillHunkies". Not so much anymore since most of the Steel Mills have shut down. Although some found it offensive, I always thought it kind of funny and never really bothered by it!!!

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Originally Posted by kuhio98

He responded something that was full of hyphens because his Mom's genetic background was mixed of several ethnic groups and so was his father's. I found myself wishing that he had just said, "I am an American".

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I kinda like that he did that way, but, I didn't hear his tone. If **I'd** said it, it would have been with a bit of a sarcastic tone, like you'd have to call me Cherokee-Irish-German-French American. ;) But, yeah, I see your point. I still would like to have actually heard him say that. ;)