i wonder if they can remember all their names???
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i wonder if they can remember all their names???
I think iit's ridiculous. But hey, if she wants to basically be a breeder mare, whatever. As someone else stated, just because you can get pregnant, doesn't mean you should keep having them year after year after year. I just don't get why people get all thrilled about it. I also think they do it for the attention. Ever heard of birth control?
That, or the money.
Welfare moms really get me mad.
When someone has THAT many children, it's fairly obvious to me that they don't consider them even human - just objects. Tools to get them more money from the welfare system. Trophies if you will. I've seen it all before, and it sickens me.
I think that is WAY out of line. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
I think it's way out of line for her to be having that many children, so, we're even. There's no way she can afford them all - she's got to be getting handouts, which means my taxes are paying for it on some level
A lot of people don't use birth control for religious reasons. They feel that if God is giving them the pregnancies, they're going to have the children. Some feel as though it's interfering with God and nature to use birth control. I've been on birth control for 13 years, I obviously don't feel that way. ;) But, I know several people that do. As long as these kids are all well taken care of, I don't see how it is harmful. The kids and adults I've known that come from large families (and, I'm talking LARGE, like 6 kids or more), have been exceptional people and none of them felt like they missed out on any more than a child from a small family might. All situations have their good and bad points. If this family is just abusing the system and is on welfare, I can see the issue, but, if not, I don't understand what the problem is. If anyone wants to give me more details on why it would be, I'm all ears.
Whoa, CALM DOWN! I didn't see it posted once that they are relying on wefare. I agree with Logan, you are out of line. I am sure that some people have that many kids to abuse the system, but not all. My mother has 6 sisters and a brother. My great uncle had 13 kids. I come from a family of BIG families, and not one of them use their children to abuse welfare.Quote:
When someone has THAT many children, it's fairly obvious to me that they don't consider them even human - just objects. Tools to get them more money from the welfare system. Trophies if you will. I've seen it all before, and it sickens me.
I don't agree with having that many kids, simply because the earth already has a huge population. But that is MY view, I don't think everyone should share that view.
*edited for a spelling mistake. :o
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but, that's not necessarily true. We don't know their financial situation, or maybe it stated it in an article that I missed. There are a lot of unknowns in the situation, and, it just seems a bit harsh and hateful to just assume they're mooching off the government and our tax dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
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Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
A. This is Pet Talk, be polite.
B. You do not know the family's financial situation, so have no cause to assume you are paying for any of her children's care. And if you are solely basing it that way, just think - all of those kids will be working adults some day, and contributing their tax dollars and maybe social security contributions to pay for your retirement! It cuts both ways.
I am moving this thread to the Dog House.
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Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
My gosh, that's incredibly hateful. I can understand being mad at welfare moms, I've known a few, and, they anger me, too. But, do we know that these people are on welfare? Do we even know their financial situation? I don't know, I can totally see not agreeing with having that many kids, but, why so much hatred towards a family you know nothing about? i'm not trying to be nosy or rude, I'm just shocked at how personally you seem to be taking it. Maybe I'm totally reading your responses incorrectly, I don't know. :(
That's sad that you have to do that, but, I agree it's gotten to that point. That stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
Sorry to let you in on this, but by the time I'm retired, Social Security won't exist anymore.
I think it's totally irresponsible, and it should NOT be encouraged in any way shape or form.
I won't back down on my opinion either. You're all entitled to yours, by all means. This sort of thing just REALLY gets me angry.
Last I heard they were not living on welfare at all. In fact, they don't even use credit. If they can't pay cash, they don't buy it.
I don't know if they're still that way, but a few months ago I watched a special on TLC about them, and that's how they ran their lives.
Pretty good, if you ask me. ;)
That is your opinion, and thats great, but you can express it in a normal way. There is no reason to be a raging fanatic about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ILoveReptiles
Wait - does that mean you don't think people with a lot of pets consider each one as special and worthy either?Quote:
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Most teachers have to contend with more than 16 students every day, all at once, yet we entrust to them the care of future generations ...
Large families were more common in prior generations, my grandmother was second-eldest in a family of eight children. Each of the eldest (the first four were girls) was kind of assigned a younger sibling to care for - my grandmother's "responsibility" was the youngest girl, Bertha. Mind you, Bertha said she usually was called "Edith-Ethel-Elizabeth-Florence-BERTHA!" but she knew her name anyway. When my grandmother died (when I was an infant), Bertha and my mother became closer friends, so the "connection" kind of continues to this day.