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Glad to hear that she is doing well and that the vet feels it is normal. It scares me a bit still, but maybe that is just my experience with Gidget. I am sure you love her very much and that you will keep an eye on her and know if something changes in her eating or other normal activities she needs to go back to the vet. Anyway, keep us posted pictures of the babies would be great!
I'm not gonna argue, and although yes I was rude at some factors because I was very dissapointed about your lack of knowledge after you claimed to be knowledgable. But if you read the bottom I did wish you luck. I sincerly ment it. I too can be ruder but I didn't feel it was necassary nor adult like. I don't like to argue but I also don't like people that add to the overpopulation of animals without doing so to improve the breed. I am truely sorry for upsetting you, and I hope you see where I (and I'm sure many others) are coming from too.
1. I think that if you research about breeding you should research it all, not just what to feed & how to take of her, but what complications may occur & how to deal with them. In researching you should of also found that breeding is only reccomended to improve breeds. That means to test your cats (mom & dad) for any & all diseases & illnesses that may be hereditary. A full blood panel & some tests also x-rays to make sure their structure is correct.
2. Yes your cats have homes, but there are many others that don't. Why not reccomend to family & friends to adopt them instead of adding to the population. (when I say population I mean the whole population, not just the ones in shelters, I'm talking about ones that have homes too). Also you can not see what the future brings. What if problems arrise later on down the road & the people can no longer care for the cats. There is always a chance that a cat (or any other animal) can end up in a shelter or on the streets even if the person promises to keep the animal for life.
3. I understand you were worried I would be too. But this should of been researched further to find out what is expected & what complications can arrise & what to do about them. And its not really only about that, its the fact you had numerous concerns. (about the gestation period of a cat).
It scared me that someone who bred on purpose had two important concerns right after each other.
I know you had a problem, but something medically like this you should always call the vet first.
I am glad you are learning now. And not once did I say that you didn't take good care of your pets.
Congrats on the kitties & I hope everything goes smoothly for you & them!
Obviously, you are upset. Whether you have a 'right' to be or not, doesn't matter. BUT, I would like to say a few things. First, print this whole thread out somehow, and re-read it in 5 years.
Why? I am assuming you are young, and inexperienced with rescue, and what the real world has out there. When you go visit a few kill shelters, I think you would change your tune a bit. You can't be held accountable for that which you don't know, or haven't been taught. But, to get so defensive, so quickly, makes me question your "they all have homes"..."I love my cat so much".
I was 8 months pregnant and crawling around a deserted house trying to trap feral cats last summer. I have logged more miles on my car transporting dogs from kill shelters to forever homes than I care to think of. I see sites like petfinder.com and even shows like animal planet/animal cops, and cry.
Your attitude, as you so proudly call it, is better described as youthful ignorance. What you so proudly describe as a blessed event sends shivers up the spine of most PTers. You don't sit back and think for maybe two minutes that anyone on here has any knowledge that might surpass yours. That is youthful ignorance. You have YOUR panties so much in a bunch that it is apparently blocking the oxygen to your brain.
Why don't you go volunteer 2 hours a week at the local humane society for a month. THAN come back and tell us how great this all is.
Nobody was trying to be rude; they are giving you honest answers. You think un-sugar-coated answers are rude. They are merely the truth given to you from experienced people. You need to realize that we care about your cat more than you may ever know, even though we've never met her. We care about her health, her well-being. I'm sure she's loved - thats evident.... please listen to what others have said. Its from pure concern that all points have been raised.
I work HARD to rescue and save unwanted cats. Its situations like this that upset us rescuers.... YES, your cats DO have homes... but SOME OTHER kitten COULD have gone to those homes! You not only endangered another kitten's life, you risked your own cat's life by knowingly bred her - AFTER you said you've read up on breeding.
PS:
Please use proper english. TO instead of 2. YOU instead of u. Your use of internet slang is making you come across as immature and therefor inadvertantly giving the impression that you are ignorant of many things.
I couldn't have said it better, guys! Right on!
One more thing...although it may be unnecessary. Its scary that someone "in charge" of a mother cat doesn't have access to a vehicle should something happen. :( I hope these kittens ARE healthy and don't require a trip to the vet any time soon...not all emergencies can wait till your father (or grandfather? Not sure what a pawpo is.) gets home.
Please do what we've suggested. Spend some time at a local shelter so you can see first hand how many cats/dogs, kittens/puppies are killed each day because there aren't homes...and are alive because people like you want to see something "blessed".
Wanted to add...
I don't think anyone here has any doubt you love your Jolly.
What we do doubt is your ability to put HER BEST INTERESTS above your OWN.
WE,AT THE FOUND CAT HOTEL,ARE PRAYING,FOR THAT MOMMA CAT,AND HER BABIES.
THAT,IS THEMOST IMPORTANT THING,THAT THE LITTLE ONES,ARE ALL RIGHT.
AFTER ALL,I AM SO DUMB,THAT I THOUGHT POUNCETTE,WAS DECLAWED,AND SHE HAS A FINE SET,OF CLAWS.
OTHERWISE,I WOULD HAVE LOCKED HER,IN THE UPSTAIRS BEDROOM,WHERE SHE WOULD HAVE HAD FOOD,INSTEAD,OF LETTING HER HAVE THE BABIES,IN THE BASEMENT.
MAYBE,IF SHE HAD HAD FOOD,SHE WOULDNT HAVE EATEN SCRATCHIER.
I DIDNT THINK,THAT SHE WAS PREGNANT,AND I WAS WRONG.
BLESSINGS,TO YOU,AND YOUR MOMMA CAT,AND KITTENS,MAY THEY BE WELL,AND HAPPY.
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Well ya'll are all so used to making assumptions on me! I do have access to a car, I have a very good car, I drive a 2002 Mustang, I just wanted to wait till my papow got here so he could see...I dont wanna just run her 2 the vet, and run up a bill if she really is ok and I dont have a job to pay for the bill! So dont make assumptions, because I read up on this for about 2 months...I have done all that I can do! Also, I use internet slang, and im sorry, it just comes out when I type, I am used to it, not gonna change it to please anyone! I am not gonna continue 2 update on Jolly b/c no matter what I do, I am doing it wrong, or I did it wrong, or I dont know what im doing, so forget it all! I am tired of dealing with this! I thought ya'll could help, but u just ended up making my problem worse, sorry I asked!
WHAT ?!? You planned a litter and you don't have a job in case of emergency vet bills.Quote:
Originally posted by ainslee_breann_sr06
I dont have a job to pay for the bill!
You should of saved around £2000 ($3500) for vet bills before you even tried to breed your cat.
Just a few concerns :-
: Is your cat a show quality pure breed cat with registration papers, ditto for the tom cat ?
: Did you check the background of both cats back three generations to check for genetic problems carried by both/either cats.
: Have you blood tested your cat and the tom cat for Felv and Fiv and STD's before you allowed them to mate. If you didn't you could have healthy looking but fatally ill kittens on your hands.
: What is the aim of your breeding program ?
: Have you got contracts drawn up for the owners of the kittens ensuring they fully insure, vaccinate and alter these kittens at six months old to prevent even more un-necessary kittens.
: What will you do if these kittens end up homeless in the future, will you do the responsible thing and take them in for the next 20 years or will you direct them to the closest shelter.
:When will you alter your cat ? As every heat cycle will shorten her life span and increase her chance of developing breast and cervical cancer and with every breeding will increasing her chance of contracting Felv, Fiv or STD‘s.
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Having read your previous posts you sound like a typical back yard breeder...bad attitude, little knowledge on breeding, no money for your vet bills and not caring about the fact for every kitten you un-necessarily bred... a kitten will die in your local shelter.
If you want to compare facts.......here is a full list of difference between back yard breeders like you and responsible breeders.
http://www.whyneuter.com/breeders.html
First of all any reputable breeder planning a litter will take the cat (or any animal) AND the babies to the vet within a few days after delivering the babies for an exam, just to make sure everything is ok. So you should of found that out in your research & had the money set aside and the appointment already made.Quote:
Originally posted by ainslee_breann_sr06
I dont wanna just run her 2 the vet, and run up a bill if she really is ok and I dont have a job to pay for the bill!
Besides you're not just running up a bill you are making sure your beloved cat is happy & healthy. Its NOT a waste of money no matter what the outcome is, nor is it a waste of time. Your mind will be set at ease causing a lot less stress on you & of course the animals as they can sense when mommy's stressed too.
And last but not least. To tell you the gods honest truth, it litterally blew me away, brought tears to my eyes.YOU HAVE NO JOB? Oh my gosh & you have a litter of kitties that you PLANNED. They need food, litter, vaccines, exams, dewormings possibly flea & mite treatments & who knows what else can arrise.
Hey guys calm down please! Give her some credit - she is obviously keeping a very watchful eye on Jolly and is only asking for advice
Its seems no assumptions were needed. Its seems we were right on the majority of things. You sound like a selfish, arrogant young lady who has a heck of a lot to learn in life.Quote:
Originally posted by ainslee_breann_sr06
Well ya'll are all so used to making assumptions on me!
Well, la-de-da, you have a car. No job but you do have a car. Woohoo! How do you pay gas, insurance, oil changes, regular repair work? I bet if your car started leaking oil, you'd be at the mechanic, yet your beloved cat leaks blood and doesn't get taken to the vet????
What did you expect us to say -- you came in with an attitude and then got overly defensive when people told you the TRUTH. You can't tell us you read up on breeding when its APPARENT you did not. Oooo... by reading up, did you mean that you read the back of the bag of food?
Yes, I am VERY sarcastic, but you've disgusted me with your ignorance. Its people like YOU that keep me and other foster families inundated with kittens and adult cats.
This one is going nowhere - what about the kitties?
There were a lot of things I wanted to say about this whole thing too but thought better of it for the sake of the kitties. I thought the only way she would listen to reason was not to attack her even when it was called for. It's obvious she is young and inexperienced and the attitude and defensiveness shows that. But I was more worried about the cat and her babies and unfortunately what is done is done now. I don't think she will be back anyway. She seems to be spoiled really and when she wasn't being told she was doing a good job and so on and so forth she was finished. I don't think we will ever know what will happen to Jolly or her babies and I do fear the worse for all of them. I hope not.
Fair enough - I have no knowledge of breeding cats having had Brody spayed as soon as I could. I have nothing but admiration for the work you do for our feline friends and am very glad that they have you in their corner - you are a tough opponent! Well done