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Not true, a tortie CAN have white. The difference is the calico has splotches of white, red, and black or blue. A tortie doesn't have splotches, it's color blend and run together. The color pattern can be blended together, but then have some white on them too (not blended). It's a tortie and white, like IRescue452 said.Quote:
Originally posted by kimlovescats
Actually she is a long-haired Dilute Calico! ;) Torties have the smaller patched markings, and no white.
I don't personally care. You're right, she is a beautiful cat regardless of what color pattern she is considered, it doesn't really matter. You had wrongfully "corrected" someone else and I was just correcting you. It doesn't matter whatsoever to me.Quote:
Originally posted by kimlovescats
"Splotches" are my term ... not being scientific.
WHO CARES anyway? She's a beautiful cat ... :rolleyes:
I'm confused, what do you mean "splotches" is your term?
She's a beautiful cat. Welcome to Pet Talk!
I'm sorry. :( This wasn't suppose to be an argument. All I wanted to do is state that a tortoiseshell cat can have white on it. It's kind of like a brindle dog, some have white on them and some don't. I didn't know that you used the word splotches. I still don't know where you used it, but I'm sorry, I should've used a different word. :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by kimlovescats
Oh my gosh, "splotches" is just the word I chose at random to use for how I would describe the "markings" of a tortie. For the record I wasn't "correcting" anyone in particular. I was stating what I felt to be accurate. So shoot me!:rolleyes:
I just found this-
"What is the difference between a Calico and a Tortoiseshell? And what in heck is a Torbie?
Goodness, a lot of questions there. :-)
The difference between a calico and a tortoiseshell is this:
With a calico, there is a significant amount of white, and the two colors are broken up into distinct patches. This has to do with the interaction of white spotting.
With a tortoiseshell, the three colors are blended and don't form distinct patches. A tortoiseshell may have significant portions of white as well, but the remaining colors are blended (this particular pattern is called a tortoiseshell and white).
A torbie, or patched tabby, is a tortoiseshell where the tabby pattern is very distinct all over the cat. A calico or tortoiseshell may have distinct tabby pattern on the red or cream patches (has to do with another gene we won't get into at this juncture), but no patterning on the other color. This isn't a torbie. A torbie is clearly patterned all over the cat -- though never on the white."
Here is the link-
http://cats.about.com/gi/dynamic/off...ricolors.shtml
I know the debate on tortoiseshell and calico seems to have gotten pretty heated so I want to put my 2 cents worth in. Calico is a term that was "invented" by an american to explain the difference between the different patterns of a tortie.
U.S. term for tortieshell with white cat quoted from several cat books including The Complete Cat Owners manual and The Cat Encyclopedia. This term is relatively non-existent outside of North America. So please, no more disagreements as you are both stating the same thing.
Chloe is BEAUTIFUL!!!! Whether Tortie or Calico!!! We MUST have more pictures!!!!!
I don't think Kim meant you can't use that word. She's just saying that's what she calls the markings, not what a vet or a breeder would call them. It's just a cute nickname. For example, when I was a little girl, I didn't know what torties were so I called them 'dark calicos' because I thought that's what they were. Even though I know the name now, I still call them dark calicos alot. You can use it if you want but it's not the correct term that a show breeder would use. In fact, a show breeder's face might turn the color of a 'dark calico' if you registered your kitty as that!Quote:
Originally posted by KBlaix
I didn't know that you used the word splotches. I still don't know where you used it, but I'm sorry, I should've used a different word. :confused:
Definatly a dilute tortoiseshell and white! :) My RB cat, Sara, was a tortoiseshell and white. She was just a regular torti and white -- I do LOVE dilutes like your's though. Maybe I'll adopt one some day.
Here are a couple of pictures of Sara. :)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...6/fbd2f6f6.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...4/fc21d951.jpg
I am stunned!!! Look in my siggy at GIZ!! Are they SISTERS?????
I would be interested in knowing if her personality is like that of my Giz.. Giz is a mischief prone clown that keeps me laughing. She just sits in the floor and L@@KS for something to get into. If it can be got into, climbed on, crawled into for a nap... Giz is the one that will do it. She is so amusing and entertaining and her coloring is beautiful. Her face is her personality. Check for other threads with pictures of her and get a good look to compare to your beauty..
(would someone point her to the how to post pictures thread? I have it saved to my computer at home but I am not at home)
Chloe, really does look like her, they could most definately be sisters!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Laura's Babies
I am stunned!!! Look in my siggy at GIZ!! Are they SISTERS?????
I would be interested in knowing if her personality is like that of my Giz.. Giz is a mischief prone clown that keeps me laughing. She just sits in the floor and L@@KS for something to get into. If it can be got into, climbed on, crawled into for a nap... Giz is the one that will do it. She is so amusing and entertaining and her coloring is beautiful. Her face is her personality. Check for other threads with pictures of her and get a good look to compare to your beauty..
(would someone point her to the how to post pictures thread? I have it saved to my computer at home but I am not at home)
Will you let me know where I can find more pictures of Giz to get a closer look.
Thanks Samantha
Are you referring to me??? :confused: What did I do? I don't know why you are getting so defensive about the colour of the cat anyways. If you're implying that someone asked me to post here, well no one did. I don't even know KBlaix. Thanks for rolling your eyes at my dead cat. :(
I'm the only "dog person" who posted an opinion on colour, so I could only assume that it was somewhat towards me..If you're tired of all that, why are you getting angry in this thread about a cat colour? I was never "putting you in your place." I was just telling her what her cat was -- you did the exact same thing, as did a bunch of other people. So I happened to say she was a dilute tortoishell and white after you were angry at KBlaix has nothing to do with anything -- I wouldn't change my mind and suddenly say she's a calico just to spare your feelings, as I don't believe she IS a calico. I was just saying what I thought was true and in no way was I thinking about what took place the very few posts ahead of me. The thread was about the breed/colour of her cat, I told her what I best believed is the colour of her cat, as was asked, and I'm sorry that you think my post had something to do with you, but the thread isn't about you, it's about the cat, and my post WAS about the cat. If you are sad or angry about something else, please don't take out on the "dogpack" as you like to call them, with irrelevant topics. Start a new thread or talk tell some people how you've been feeling. I rarely come to the cat side because I feel like I don't fit in, and when I get someone that seems angry at me, it really hurts my feelings and makes me not want to come back, so sorry if I sound harsh or upset. And I'm sorry you are having a hard time.
Now I am offended, and I'm sure a lot of others are too. I am a dog person & a cat person, if ya want to know I'm also a pet person with ferrets, rats & a hamster. So what should I get rid of some of my pets so I'll only be a one kind of pet person?Quote:
Originally posted by kimlovescats
Wasn't rolling my eyes at your RB cat .... or referring to you personally. I'm just sick and tired how all the dog people jump on the bandwagon when they think they've put a cat person in their place. Add to that all my cat friends who read but WIMPED out on posting on my behalf. I'm tired of caring for people with all of my heart and soul, yet never hearing from anyone unless they need a favor. I'm tired of people who hardly ever post on the cat side showing up suddenly and winning a contest ... then vanishing back to the dog side. I'm sick of injustice, selfish people, and groupies! I am trying my best to leave this place, and take my posts with me ... but Karen won't delete my account. Well, maybe now she will?
I don't post too often because I'm busy, its not becuase I want to put a "cat person" in their place nor is it because I just need a favor. I'm sure that is whay a lot of others don't post regularly too.
I don't know what is up with you but geesh, seems like you're on the edge, jumping at everyone that is commenting on your posts, especially the "dog people". I didn't see one thing wrong with the replies you got to your posts. All that happened is we actually verified the correct meaning of calico & torties. This site is supposed to be a caring helpful site. I personally saw no reason for your responses. I think they are immiture & uncalled for.
I'm a dog, cat & every kind of critter person & proud of it! Animals are animals & I don't descriminate against species, breed, age or sex, I love them all.
Edited to add that I don't discriminate against their owners either!
I'm a dog, cat, and pet person. I don't think it takes a cat owner to know what the colour is considered on that cat. I also don't see why pters think they are so split up by animal, most of the pters read the other sections too, there's no wall drawn up between the two.