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Originally posted by clara4457
Bottom line is - if you are not going to spay her, you are just going to have to deal with it. I'm sorry, but I get really tired of people having problems with an unaltered dog and then complaining about the consequences. You don't want to spay her - FINE - then DEAL.

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That is NOT the bottom line. I really get frustrated with many people believing that spaying or neutering their dogs is the cure all answer when it is NOT! I believe it is the easy out answer for many people. It is not the answer for all dog on dog aggressiveness, marking behaviors or even preventative health issues. The real bottom line is.... Just because your dog is intact does not mean it can not be trained.

Dixie is spayed (after having a very beautiful, well thought out and planned breeding) and she still marks. Take her to the dog park and let her run and it will amaze you how often she squats to pee. Why? Because she is alpha. Take her on a walk (leisurely stroll) and watch her mark! Why? Because she is alpha. NOT because she is intact or fixed.

The solution to your delimia is simple. Teach her to heal and then walk briskly (instead of giving her the opportunity to stop and mark) and you won't have the problem. She needs to know you are out for a walk and not a leisurely stroll. I usually don't make the dogs do a formal competition heal if we are just out for a walk but I do make them do a loose leash heel. It is my pace that determines what kind of walk we are on.... not theirs.

DD has some great advice!
Heal & a leave it command would work wonders for this problem.

You say you run her not walk her, I'm wondering how she has time to stop & smell & pee. Running should keep her mighty occupied & you on the go so she can't stop.

Raustyk is spayed, was spayed right at 6 months old. She started marking AFTER she got spayed so spaying may NOT be the solution.

But I do have to strongly suggest that with her issues of suddenly peeing a lot both in & out of the house I would personally go right to the vet, spend $10-$20 for a urine sample just to be on the safe side. All ya got to do is get a sample & drop it off, no need for the dog to go.


Good luck!

I have to agree with Dixieland. Murph was neutered by 6 mos, before he'd started marking anything. But as he matured, he did start marking and if you let him, he'd be stopping the walk to pee every 5 secs.

I compromise with him, but it's not something you just have to live with. At the beginning of the walk, I let him pee on every tree and bush he wants too. After a few minutes, I say "Let's Go" and I just take off walking. From that point, he has to keep pace.

He has worked out a system, where he runs in front (no pulling, just to the end of the leash), finds a spot, sniffs, then pees real quick. I never break stride. He has until the leash runs out behind me, then he runs to catch up and start the process all over again. As long as he's not pulling or tripping me or slowing me down, I figure if he can get some peeing in, go for it.

Par...

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Originally posted by ParNone
I have to agree with Dixieland. Murph was neutered by 6 mos, before he'd started marking anything. But as he matured, he did start marking and if you let him, he'd be stopping the walk to pee every 5 secs.

I compromise with him, but it's not something you just have to live with. At the beginning of the walk, I let him pee on every tree and bush he wants too. After a few minutes, I say "Let's Go" and I just take off walking. From that point, he has to keep pace.

He has worked out a system, where he runs in front (no pulling, just to the end of the leash), finds a spot, sniffs, then pees real quick. I never break stride. He has until the leash runs out behind me, then he runs to catch up and start the process all over again. As long as he's not pulling or tripping me or slowing me down, I figure if he can get some peeing in, go for it.

Par...

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Haha, thats what I do with my dogs. It is a great system!

lol oh she is not peeing in the house its ONLY on walks lol I guess I will try just ignoring her and keep walking? I just tend to stop because I am never sure if she is peeing or pooping, cuz of coarse I have to pick it up if its the latter...

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Originally posted by cali
lol oh she is not peeing in the house its ONLY on walks lol I guess I will try just ignoring her and keep walking? I just tend to stop because I am never sure if she is peeing or pooping, cuz of coarse I have to pick it up if its the latter...

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I'm sorry, I got her confused with Blair.
How is Blair doing anyways?

I also don't think marking always has to do with being fixed. My dog is neutered, and he tries to mark constantly while we walk. I haven't had him for long (almost 2 weeks), so I am still trying to teach him to heal and walk at my pace. I got some good ideas from you guys, though, and I will have to try them out. Thanks!

posted by lv4dogs:Heal & a leave it command would work wonders for this problem. >>>>>>>>>

I use the leave it command too. :)

You already got excellent advice but I had to add...

Nobody pees/marks like Rocky.
We have a joke around my family, that
he has a bottomless bladder when it comes
to marking. When I get tired of his marking I
start useing the Leave it Command on our walks.

You can always use a Gentle leader on her, than
controlling her head/body movement is a peice of cake.

I have trained Niño the "no pee" ok pee" commands and that really works.

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I'm sorry, I got her confused with Blair.How is Blair doing anyways?

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lol thats what I figered. Blair is actually dog much better now, there has still been a few accidents but not nearly as many as before, and he has started asking to go out again :)

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He has worked out a system, where he runs in front (no pulling, just to the end of the leash), finds a spot, sniffs, then pees real quick. I never break stride. He has until the leash runs out behind me, then he runs to catch up and start the process all over again. As long as he's not pulling or tripping me or slowing me down, I figure if he can get some peeing in, go for it.

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Lol that is what i do with Elvis and i seems to be working well. El was also neutered at 7 months and that was all fine, he hit 18 months old a month or so back and started marking "everything", so it is not an intact thing ;).

Misty & Happy look so sweet. Hey try taking a spray water bottle with you on your walks & squirt a little water on her tail end when she starts to make markings & see if that helps. Hope it will distract the idea for the moment.

intact or fixed..not always. ugh.

I don't have that problem with my dog but from my common sense, what would I try to do is walk..and think of a spot, regular, same spot, (if you walk the same route daily or so) but just pick a spot you would let misty take a break.

if misty starts to do her business, scream firmly, NO! and pull. then until to your spot you want her to do it. "(command you make up)" -- again and again... maybe go from three spots to one spot with practices and time! it should work!

let us know if any better, many lucks! :)

I'm with Par! Duncan marks EVERYTHING when we go for walks!! I let him do his thing and either catch up or he gets the head jerk (I use a a gentle leader on him) Many times, we will be walking and he stops ALL the time to pee!! But, really, what do I care!! It reminds me of that joke wher ethe dog says to the owner: "Hey, whose walk is this anyway?!" I don't care really, I've been out in the world all day, he hasn't, let him sniff and prove his point all walk long! It's not like we need to be somewhere, we're just walkin;! :D
And Candy is correct,as usual;) If you want to go for a formal walk, then do so...if it's a casual walk, let her do it, who cares? Misty is enjoying it and it makes her feel important in the 'hood! :D

Although marking isn't always linked with intact pets, it quite often is the case. I know fixed pets can be markers just as much as intact ones can have no marking issues. BUT often it is due to being intact. Not that spaying/neutering solves all problems, but it can help and it is healthier. It definately doesn't hurt. I know she's planning on breeding, but I just wanted to make that point because I think that is what Clara was saying.