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who is disputing this? lol although they could very well end up breeding true one day but IF that happens it wont be for years to come, and if they breed true one day then yes, they will be purbred.Quote:
but just to get the facts straight...there are NO such things as Labradoodles, Maltipoos, Yorkiepoos(practically anything mixed with a Poodle), Bugs, Pocket Beagles, Teacup breeds, etc. They're all mixed breeds and will never be considered purebred
They look like Portugese Water Dogs. And there is already a Curly Coated Retriever. :rolleyes: So what makes them so unique? There's the claim that they have the best of both breeds, but they can also inherit the worst of both breeds so people buying these dogs could end up with a $2000 mess. (It's not always wise to mix certain breeds either.)
In order for these dogs to be recognized by a Kennel Club they have to have a purpose and a standard, (these dogs have neither) and there has to be a few generations of Labradoodles bred to Labradoodles.
But the way I see it, you can only get a Labradoodle once, then what is it?
There are more dogs and cats than people. For every person born, 8 puppies or 4 kittens are born. There's no point in spending a ton of money on a mutt when there are plenty of homeless and very useful mutts (and purebreds) sitting on death row in shelters everywhere. :mad:
Just so you guys know, I am TOTALY against breeding new breeds since there are already about 400 breeds "breeding true" I think you should either just pick one out or adopt a homeless mix. "breeds" are a thing new to the last 500 or so years. Up untill about 150 yrs ago, there were about 25 breeds "breeding true"
Now you guys know whawt I think about it.
We did have a pound dog. She sadly passed away 2 years ago. Pound rescue dogs sometimes come with a lot of baggage & it takes so much time & patience. Rescue dogs should go to people that are really serious & are willing to deal with the many problems or else the poor dog will end up back at the pound again. It is so hard to get people to understand that. :(
I think it would be the same, but most dogs from shelters and rescues ARE healthy. Thousands of healthy animals are put to sleep EVERY single day in shelters all over this country. It's better to save a life, rather than buy because you're going to end up spending way more on a bought dog. Dogs from petstores and backyard breeds are prone to have MORE health problems and behavior issues.
If someone doesn't know how to properly care for a pet, then that's the only reason why they shouldn't get one because shelter pets are for anyone. Pound puppies(and any other kid of animal) make the best pets IMO.
Bonny there are actually lots of wonderful dogs at shelters that have no problems at all. Sometimes wonderful dogs are dropped off because the owner is moving and no longer wants it, sometimes you'll see people turning in their dog because "it doesn't match the couch", or it sheds, or for other silly reason. If you find a good rescue they will work with you and find a dog that is exactly what you are looking for.
Yes, some do have issues but there are also plenty that don't.
I know that. :( We had 2 who didn't work out before Nino. I know you'll all ask, so here are the stories I typed for them on a website I don't keep anymore:
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(I wrote this quite a while ago, sorry if there are any spelling mistakes.)
We had Layla from late June to the day after Thanksgiving in November, 1999. She is a black and white Dalmatian, probably from a bad breeder, because she looks too much like a nice pure-breed dog to be from a puppy mill. Her left eye is brown, and her right eye is blue, which means she is odd-eyed! Both of her ears are pure black, and she doesn't have any spots on her upper right side of her face. Her tail is all white except for a couple of spots at the base of the tail. On her back she has a big cluster of spots, and a couple of small ones on top of it, so if you look hard enough, you can see a paw print.
We got her at the Anti Cruelty Society in Chicago, where we had come to look for a new dog shortly after giving Clark back. She was so scared and huddled in the corner of her cadge, which we now know is the first sign of a troubled dog. At that time, her being scared is what made us pick her, that and the people passing by her yelling things like " Hey look at that blind dog, I don't want IT!" But she wasn't blind, just odd-eyed, and maybe short of hearing, like a lot of Dals.
A couple months after we brought her home, Layla's problems started showing. She was a fear biter and had horrible separation anxiety.
She would bite everyone on the street because she was so afraid. I feel so bad for Layla, because the one thing she was so afraid of; being left somewhere, is what we did.
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We had Clark, or "Clarkie Clue" for about three weeks in late May and June of 1999.He was eight months old, and we got him from a Great Dane rescue in Indiana, and were told that he was a Dane- boxer mix. He was a great dog, although the would get too exited and use his mouth to play. He even gave my mom a big bruise that changed colours! Against my will, he went back to the rescue for more training and a new home. My mom always says he would have been a great dog with a little bit of training.:( :( :(
Susie the pound rescue dog had belonged to a man. She loved my husband. When she came to live with us to would run around the house 5 times she was so happy to be outdoors. She did leak urine at times the vet said there was nothing he could do about that. She hated going to the veterinary & would cry terribly was afraid of being left in another institution. She ate cat manure, cow manure, horse manure at first. Must of been lacking something in diet. She was eventually trained to lay on the rug by the door, she would smile (LOL), & liked to jump up on people & learned not to do that. She was very stubborn & had a mind of her own. Her tongue would stick out about 1/2 all the time. She like to ride in the uniloader hind paws on our legs & front paws braced on front frame. Her tail would stick in our face. She was a nut. LOL !!! Miss her to this very day :(
I think you mean registered, there are many unregistered purebreds however; there aren't any real purebred dogs that aren't reconigized by the kennel clubs. Dogs like mini beagles labadoodles and such are still mixed breeds, BYBers say that they are purebred to rip people off.Quote:
Originally posted by cali
NOT true, that is not true at all, there are THOUSANDS of PUREbred dogs that are not recignized by either.
again those are not the kind of dogs I am refering too. there are many purbred dogs that people want to keep OUT of the limelight and away from kennel clubs these people go to working registrys, and MANY people fight conformation registrys to keep there breeds from being turned into pretty dogs that cant work. I am refering to any breeds that BREEDS TRUE. not labradoodles, nt cockapoo's these are mutts, I am talking only about breeds that you can breed 2 of the same breed together and get that breed, breeda that have a working standerd. before border collies for example were registered were they not pur bred? of coarse they were! this person said its not a breed unless recignized by AKC or CKC neither are working registrys and neither recignize even half of the purbreed dogs out there.
Labradoodles were specifically bred for the size, temperament, stability and trainability factors of the Labrador, a breed that has long been used as a Guide Dog, and the non-shedding coat of the poodle.
Having known Wheatons, I cannot imagine one as a guide dog. They are great dogs, but complete terriers, really active and too short for most people to use. Same is true of many other non-shedding dogs. And while the dander is what causes people to react, not the shed fur, the dander stays close to the skin with non-shedding dogs, and many people with dog allergies can have a non-shedding breed with much less reaction.
Really? Maybe someone should mention that to my dog.Quote:
Pound rescue dogs sometimes come with a lot of baggage & it takes so much time & patience. Rescue dogs should go to people that are really serious & are willing to deal with the many problems or else the poor dog will end up back at the pound again. It is so hard to get people to understand that.
Dogs are in shelter because of bad owners - plain and simple. The number one reason that a dog is surrendered is because the owners are moving. That's not the dog's fault - it's the fault of the owners for not caring enough about a life in their hands. Maybe there are adult dogs that need training - so does the puppy you buy. Every dog will have some issues that they will need specific training with, however if it's a dog from a shelter - people are quick to assume that that's the reason why they are misbehaving. "Oh, it's a shelter dog." But what about the purebred dog from a backyard breeder? What will you blame their problems on?
How many labradoodle breeders are selling their dogs as guide dogs? Maybe that's the way the breed started out, but it ended up with everybody and their mother wanting one of these "new breeds".Quote:
Labradoodles were specifically bred for the size, temperament, stability and trainability factors of the Labrador, a breed that has long been used as a Guide Dog, and the non-shedding coat of the poodle
FYI.....
Interesting reads for those who keep their minds open....
http://www.laa.org.au/
http://www.namascusa.com/
http://www.ukcdogs.com/
(specifically this part.....
http://www.ukcdogs.com/breeds/breedlist.shtml )
http://www.arba.org/
What was wrong w/ the extremely loyal and intelegent dogs that are poodles? The Labradoodle started the whole "doodle" thing, and if the people who orriginally bred them used poodles, the whole "lets cross it and sell it for more" thing wouldn't have happened. I'm not saying the dogs are bad, it is not there fault.Quote:
Originally posted by Karen
Labradoodles were specifically bred for the size, temperament, stability and trainability factors of the Labrador, a breed that has long been used as a Guide Dog, and the non-shedding coat of the poodle.
Poodles tend to be a little too energetic to make good guide dogs. They are smart, but more independent-minded generally, and easily distracted. A good guide dog needs to be happy spending hours at a time staying very still, and staying focused. While there are exceptions to every breed stereotype, they are just that - exceptions.
Different breeds have different strengths, and different uses as assistance dogs. I met a JRT who naturally alerted people to epileptic seizures, an ability discovered when his human worked as an overnight counselor in a home for children. Many kinds of dogs are good "pet therapy" dogs. Terriers are often trained to be picker-uppers for people in wheelchairs or with limited mobility. The list can go on and on.