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Yes, in a way it does give them a free ride out, but if they have no moral and if they don't care what they did or what happens to them, what difference does it make to them?Quote:
Originally posted by Kfamr
I have mixed feelings as well.
I don't believe death would be punishing the prisoner.... it'd just give them a free ride out of this world, in which they've made others suffer.
Miranda you are thinking of Joe Arpaio he is the sheriff that runs the prisons in Arizona-
http://www.reelectjoe.com/
Yes! Thats who I was thinking of! I knew there were a few other things, like the pink underwear. ;) Hey, some guys like pink! I didn't know who it was though.Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
Miranda you are thinking of Joe Arpaio he is the sheriff that runs the prisons in Arizona-
http://www.reelectjoe.com/
Some peoples logic is that because they loose their right to freedom, that in its self is the punishment, not sure I agree with that myself though.:)
Miranda Rae, you are right some of these people could not care less about anything.
I'm a pretty cruel person- if you kill someone you should die too- AND in the fashion that the victims were killed, that way the animals will feel the pain their victims felt.
So...if you shot someone, then you should be shot....if you ran someone over, then you should be ran over.
Oh, and prisions are way to nice- gyms, TV's, basketball courts, air conditioning, heating, warm meals...too many luxuries. I'm more for 10'X10' stinky, smelly, rat/flea infested, dark cell. Innocent homeless people and low income families don't even have the luxuries that a MURDERER has in prision- what's up with that!? :confused:
Yep, harsh I know, sorry can't help it but I can't stand criminals. If you can't do the time, then don't do the crime.
Personally, I am opposed to the death penalty. I am not opposed to punishment, but I do not feel the death penalty is appropriate. First, too many innocent people have been released from death row following exoneration. These are people that had enough evidence for a jury to convict, but errors in judgment were still made. I do not feel that is a risk worth taking.l
Second, from a cost standpoint, it is more expensive to sentence someone to die than to sentence someone to life in prison when you consider all of the legal costs associated with the appeals processing that go along with it.
Third, I cannot see myself being the one to end someone else's life, no matter what the reason. I cannot expect someone else to do what I cannot. It is morally reprehensible.
And it costs a lot money to build new prisions to house the criminals in and provide food for their stomachs and pay for the heating, electrical, and utility bills.Quote:
Originally posted by Becki
Second, from a cost standpoint, it is more expensive to sentence someone to die than to sentence someone to life in prison when you consider all of the legal costs associated with the appeals processing that go along with it.
I won't say it doesn't cost money for those things, but that doesnt change how much money it costs to take a person from first arrest through execution. The mandated appeals process is not cheap. The death penalty has not been proven to be an effective deterrent to crime. I think there are people who need to rot in jail, never see the light of day and live truly miserable existences while they are in prison. I just don't agree with the death penalty.
"Eye for an Eye..."
Someone mentioned previously that by executing a murderer you're also hurting their family and friends. By killing someone, that person just hurt the victim's family and his own, not the judicial system. Someone also said that capitol punishment isn't a very effective detterent. It would be if it was carried out more often and with harsher methods besides a needle in the arm and a nice loooong nap. People know they can get away with murder and they'll just sit in jail and not have to worry about taking care of themselves because the tax payers are paying for everthing and they'll just appeal their case until they die of old age. Criminals have more rights than their victims these days and that's not fair.
I agree with YellowLabLover, if you kill someone, you should have to endure the same pain and manner of death as your victim.
"Eye for an Eye..." Straight from God's mouth.
e.e. cummings was a great example of capital punishment.
http://www.101bananas.com/poems/cummings.html
There are arguments that are valid on both sides, however I sure as heck know if someone took a member of my family's life, then I would want them to pay for their crime with their life, why should they have the privilige of experiencing life of any kind, when they took a life.
I always remember a horrible murder case in NZ, a young girl about 13 was murdered , he actually buried her alive, can you imagine that, he did his time and got released, her step father threatend him and ended up in court for it, luckily the judge went easy on him.
Capital punishment has its place IMO.
Yellowlablover I can understand what you are saying,when I hear of horrific crimes like the above, I want that murderer to experience the same suffering as the victim, but then people say we would be just as bad as he is then, its a tough call.
Wow! Thats awful! I can't believe how evil some people are. It makes me sick. I don't blame her SF for threatening him. I've known a few murders, and I don't know what their sentences are but I think one is getting tried as an adult. I think in his case for what he did, I don't think he should be let out at all! He beat a blind man with the man's walking stick. :(Quote:
Originally posted by carole
I always remember a horrible murder case in NZ, a young girl about 13 was murdered , he actually buried her alive, can you imagine that, he did his time and got released, her step father threatend him and ended up in court for it, luckily the judge went easy on him.
I am for capital punishment only if 100% sure
that person commited the crime.
I also think prisons should be run more like Alcatraz
for harden criminals with serious crimes.
Staple food only with reading priviliges.
I will also say that I am not sure I could
make that decision to take someone's life either.
What about the horrific case in England some time ago , where a young boy was abducted from a shopping mall, by two teenagers, they tortured him and beat him so bad and left him to be run over by a train, the torture I won't even say, as its so bad it makes me feel sick to even type it.
These two are going to be released and they will be given new identity's and could even go to another country, NZ was hinted as one, and go to university or whatever and no-one will be the wiser, this is an outrage, and I am signing a petition against this being allowed.
Personally I would have no trouble at all sentencing these two to death, this child suffered so much and he was competely innocent and I believe he was only like 7 years old if that.
I cannot imagine what his poor parents have to live through every day of their lives for the rest of their lives, and these two will get to continue their life, in secret no-one knowing what a terrible crime they committed, thats justice for you.:mad:
im all for capital punishment! if they deserve it, execute 'em.