working vs show beardies..PICTURES!

Who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haven't you notived that hardly anyone here cares whether or not a persons dog is a show dog or a working dog. We don't pay any attention to that. Congrats if your dog is a working dog, congrats if your dog is a show dog. Being a working dog is hard, being a show dog is hard.

I'll admit, I like working dogs much more than show dogs, but I don't sit here bashing show dogs- upsetting those who love them. I have respect and COMMON SENSSE to tell me not to express those opinions, even though I am entitled to express them, because people could get hurt off my opinions.

I've had enough of this crap, thank god I don't own a show or working dog right now, otherwise I would be even more pi$$ed.

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being a show dog is hard.

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:eek: What is hard about being groomed then spending a few mintues prancing around the show ring. Not all that difficult. ;)

Again, who cares.

Just have to jump in here and say that ALL dogs have value, whether they're working dogs, show dogs, mutts, or psuedo children like mine. They're neither show dogs or working dogs, they're just my kids, and valued just because they breathe.

look guys the ONLY reason I posted this is because quite some time ago some people were wondering what I working beardie looked like, I tried my best to descibe them but could not find a picture, but on another board someone received a pic of that working beardie, so now that I finally had a pic of one I posted it. that is the ONLY reason behind it regardless of what some people may think. :rolleyes: everyone here knows I am against breeding dogs for show, but that hardly means I hate show bred dogs, its not the dogs fault, its the PEOPLE who breed for show that I dont like. look blair is a show bred dog, heck Happy is 1/4 barbie collie, who knows what shadows parents were, or perkys or Ripleys.

by the way to answer your question about who cares? THOUSANDS of people care. obviously you are not one of them.

And what is your reason for posting this when many owners on here own/love show-bred dogs?

Are you incapable of apologizing? I do believe that's whats in need for many members here that you've upset and hurt.

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Originally posted by cali
I cant stand the show versian of any breed, all they are is barbies bred to prance around a ring and look pretty, while the true version is acually usefull

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If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.


[and thats what i'm gonna do ;)]

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Originally posted by cloverfdx
:eek: What is hard about being groomed then spending a few mintues prancing around the show ring. Not all that difficult. ;)

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If you havn't tried showing then you don't know if it is hard or not. ALOT of work and training goes into those dogs! It takes months to train them to be like they are. It takes DAYS to get them to where there coat is good for showing. Then, when showing time comes they have to get the dog to stand like they are supposed to and look forward for mintues at a time, NOT as easy as it looks!! These people, and dog's spend months and months on the road working hard to get titles. It IS harder then it seems. No, the dogs aren't brused right before the show, thrown ina a ring and the handler says "O gee, I hope they do good" :rolleyes:

Ashley

The show Beardie at the top is Idenical to our RB Kelly, a Registered pedigree bearded collie, won show's in her younger days ALSO an EXELENT working dog, herding different livstock.
Show dog's used as working dogs isnt much harder than just a show dog they still need the hard work before the show ring.
10 minutes a day took care of that coat, if not being a working dog made her look healther/muscler.

I prefer the top dog.

the bottom dog looks slightly similar to Mizzy our Beardie x border collie except he has a longer coat.

Both i'm sure are great dog's
Ky

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Originally posted by Aspen and Misty
If you havn't tried showing then you don't know if it is hard or not. ALOT of work and training goes into those dogs! It takes months to train them to be like they are. It takes DAYS to get them to where there coat is good for showing. Then, when showing time comes they have to get the dog to stand like they are supposed to and look forward for mintues at a time, NOT as easy as it looks!! These people, and dog's spend months and months on the road working hard to get titles. It IS harder then it seems. No, the dogs aren't brused right before the show, thrown ina a ring and the handler says "O gee, I hope they do good" :rolleyes:

Ashley

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Lol that's what I thought. :p

Sorta like human models. My sister used to model and she had to train and practice "the walk" and different moves for months!
Of course, it's probably much easier for a human model to do though. :p

I was going to just leave the topic alone, but just to say beardies orgiginally WERE bearded border collies lol

Just for the record, let me clarify my point on this:

I was not saying a "working" dog is somehow less than a "show" dog. Not at all. In fact, my whole complaint is that I am sick and tired of cali always saying that one type of dog ("working") is better than another type of dog ("show").

I don't personally own any conformation show dogs. Never have, never will. I'm not defending conformation show dogs because I own or show them. I'm just tired of cali's one-sided, closed-minded attitude. I happen to think dogs with a job to do are usually pretty happy dogs. If you own a dog that likes to herd, great! I'm happy for you, and happy for your dog. If you own a dog that like to show, great! Again, happy for you, happy for your dog.

I do, however, know for a fact that there are NOT two types of dogs in the world - "working" dogs and "show" dogs, and one is stupid and useless and one is smart and wonderful. That is SO incredibly immature and short-sighted. The world is not black and white. Many tens of thousands of dogs that happen to meet conformation standards are also titled herding, earth, agility, field and obedience dogs. Just because a dog happens to be the right height, weight and have a pretty coat does not make it stupid or worthless. One of my fox terriers is an almost perfect conformation dog ... and yet has the highest prey drive and earth dog instinct of all my dogs. The vast majority of conformation winners also have working titles. Don't believe me? Look it up.

That's my biggest issue with this thread ... and all cali's threads, really ... the fact that she states opinions as if they are facts, without research to back it up. It is simply incorrect that conformation dogs have lost all the instinct for the job they were bred to do, and tens of thousands of working titled confomation winners prove it.

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look guys the ONLY reason I posted this is because quite some time ago some people were wondering what I working beardie looked like, I tried my best to descibe them but could not find a picture, but on another board someone received a pic of that working beardie, so now that I finally had a pic of one I posted it. that is the ONLY reason behind it regardless of what some people may think.

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And that's great - we all like information and pictures of dogs. But that is NOT all you did. You did NOT just post pictures of two dogs, for an interesting thread. You had to throw in this rude and hateful comment: "I cant stand the show versian of any breed, all they are is barbies bred to prance around a ring and look pretty, while the true version is acually usefull". And THAT little bit of garbage is what made people comment about this thread. You couldn't just leave it alone as an interesting bit of information about a breed ... you just had to say something snotty.

I have no earthly idea why some people who love dogs feel compelled to constantly criticise other people who also love dogs ... but just happen to love different dogs. Why create hard feelings and rifts in a group that basically shares the same interest - dogs? That is so stupid and non-productive! IMO, ALL dog lovers should band together, respect each other and each other's dogs, and better use our time and energy battling the people who abuse, neglect and fight dogs.

Amen, sister. *Bows down and kisses feet* We are beating a dead horse though. :(

Perfect twisterdog,

One day i'll post a pic of kelly when i can find one.
PS never seen a "working beardie" like that at the bottom, seen lots of "show beardies".
Ky