This made me soooo mad.

Amber most schools in NZ, with the exception of a few and primary years that is from 5 to 11, wear a school uniform and have these kind of rules, some are even stricter, the uniform is practical and sensible, blues, greys,maroons and greens being the prominant colours.

I actually thing the dress codes (from what you and others on PT say are disgraceful), there is a time and place for everything, school is a place for learning, not to be confused with dressing up to be cool or fashionable or to impress the opposite sex , so make-up and clothes like that donot have a place in school IMO, it also stops the competition thing especially amongst girls, not everyone can afford the latest gear, so there is no class distinction.

Whether you are wearing a uniform or not, why is make-up necessary,? most young people have beautiful skin that should not need to be covered with foundation and the likes,(I can understand those with blemishes needing to use it) but thats the only exception..

I think eye-liner should be off the list, its a very dramatic make-up, very obvious, man aren't you all lucky I am not your head-mistress!!!!?

I'm sure lots of girls use way more than him. And it does sound like he's being singled out. If I were you, I'd tell the principal or someone pretty high up of her actions. Tell them everything that has been going on. That kind of treatment should not be allowed and it sounds like he's already got enough problems without her adding more.

Personally, I don't like eyeliner on guys..........not one single bit. I really don't think makeup is a guy's thing, but that is just how *I* see it. That being said, as long as it isn't against the school rules, its his choice what he wants to wear, and though some may not like it, its still his right. I think its discriminatory on the teacher's behalf to do this. :(

there only one guy in my school that has ever worn make-up and that was last year, he came to drama where blush and lipstick, the teacher was like"what the?" he said he got bored in film, what I wanna know is, what was he doing with blush and lipstick in the first place?(and I mean like dark pink blush, and pink ladys lipstick!) lol thats the only time I have ever seen a guy with make-up on though :eek: but whatever, that teacher needs to get a life.

What a rude teacher! I agree with Karen.

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Originally posted by ILoveMyAbbyGirl
*cough* Personally, a little eye liner on guys is... *ahem* charming... *cough*

I love eye liner on guys. It just shows everyone that they will and can stand up for what they want and not be too shy to try something new.

Bravo for him for being the only male in a jewelry class. Another good example of being brave.

Have him talk to the counselor or something... someone who has authority and can set that stupid teacher straight...

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ewwwww! lol. I'll pass on a guy with eyeliner. They are either a) to prissy or b) to different for me. I'll send them all your way, Meg! :D

Lol, most guys I know can out make up on WHOLE LOT BETTER than the girls I know. They also look better in it too.

My friend Preston is the only one i've seen that can actually look good in black lipstick, although I don't like black lipstick much at all.

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Originally posted by carole
so make-up and clothes like that donot have a place in school IMO

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Oh, and I honestly agree.

But, if she's going to yell at him for it -- she needs to yell at the fake-dyed blonde girls and others who CAKE it on IN CLASS.

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Originally posted by Kfamr
Oh, and I honestly agree.

But, if she's going to yell at him for it -- she needs to yell at the fake-dyed blonde girls and others who CAKE it on IN CLASS.

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Exactly.

Honestly, though...Sorry if I change the subject or start a debate...This is going to sound stereotypical, but oh well...

Every guy that I have ever met that wears makeup and even *almost* every female that is into the black makeup is totally depressed and angry. (Aside from transvestites and drag queens, I'm talking the morbid stuff...) And I'm not totally speaking out of naiveness. I have quite an array of friends. But looking back, it was so cool to be depressed when I hung out with (what they called back then) mods. Even my middle brother is still kind of into that stuff still. Luckily, he's growing out of it. It just seems to me along with that black makeup, comes all the other wierd self hate stuff. Like carving on yourself, hating life, etc...

Kayann, is it like that everywhere, or am I just old and sheltered? I guess I'm a bit prejudice, because when I see people like that, I automatically assume that they are going to be the pessimist type. So, I'm not interested in getting to know them.

Regardless, as I said before, I think the makeup rules should apply to all or none.

Nope! It's not always like that.

Like I said, Bobby is a happy kid. Seriously, he's so high on life and always so happy to be around.

The only time i've seen him down was when Ms. Vargas said stuff aobut him. She's even said his hair was "Goofy". He has normal hair, it's probably a bit past his ears, and it's blonde.

As well as alot of other friends of mine who wear eyeliner or black clothing. They're completely happy and love themselves (In fact, Preston's a bit conceited :P )

I don't wear make up or black clothing all of the time. I don't wear make up at all, unless I'm playing around to take pictures(which I did once)

As for black clothing, I do wear it but again, not all of the time.
I dunno how I could be "labeled" at all, because well.. i'm just me.
Lol, I don't limit mysefl to one sort of music, I do limit myself to the "kind of friends" I have. I have friends that are "labeled" differently.


Okay, I think I went off topic too -- did I atleast answer your question? :o :D :p :o

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Originally posted by Tonya
Every guy that I have ever met that wears makeup and even *almost* every female that is into the black makeup is totally depressed and angry. (Aside from transvestites and drag queens, I'm talking the morbid stuff...) And I'm not totally speaking out of naiveness ... It just seems to me along with that black makeup, comes all the other wierd self hate stuff. Like carving on yourself, hating life, etc ... is it like that everywhere, or am I just old and sheltered? I guess I'm a bit prejudice, because when I see people like that, I automatically assume that they are going to be the pessimist type. So, I'm not interested in getting to know them.

Regardless, as I said before, I think the makeup rules should apply to all or none.

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I have to agree with you, Tonya.


I know that I live in a rather "backwards" state ... although not as bad as some. But, in all honesty, a boy would NOT wear makeup to school here. He would NOT have a pleasant time of the rest of the school year. I've never seen any boy wearing makeup in public here.

It's really too bad it's like that.

Some teachers are completely fine with it, other's are completely idiotic about it, Ms. Vargas for example.

Oh, and Tonya -- When I started out my Freshman year, I totally thought the same way. Sort of like " wow, those kids are weird."

But then I met them and talked to them. They're completely opposite fo what I had thought, which has basically stopped me from judging anyone again until I actually talk to them.

My cousin David wears eyliner....but only when he's doing a drag show. Man oh man does he make a hot girl!!!! But that's another story.

When I was in high school there were maybe a few guys that wore it.

Personally I don't like it, but to each their own, right? That teacher had no right to single him out for it though.