Oh yes PCB....there are many presidents that were worse. Study them and you'll find out.
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Oh yes PCB....there are many presidents that were worse. Study them and you'll find out.
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I don't think Bush is the worst/the dumbest/the most dangerous. Nor, certainly, do I think he's the best.
He has smart handlers. Every president does. Plus, his trajectory was changed by 9/11. No other president has served during such a unique time (yes others have had special, unique terms, but none quite like this). His trajectory was changed by 9/11. we will never know what his presidency would have been like had 9/11 not happened. The nature of his presidency is one of the many, many things that have changed since 9/11.
It's difficult to compare him to others in light of this.
That said, I supported the invasion of Afganistan but only because the gov't there was unwilling to cooperate and turn over bin Laden, who they admit, is/was a criminal who committed crimes against another country.
Iraq is a different story. It will always be a different story. We have yet to see how Iraq has affected Bush's trajectory.
Good night folks. I'm still sick, and gonna go to bed early.!:)
Sorry, PCB...if you studied them in depth you would know that there are many worse presidents than Bush, he just happens to be president when you are coming of age and you are experiencing, in your opinion, a terrible situation.
Also, what many people don't understand is that the president does not have as much power as most would like to believe and thus ends up being a scapegoat or the hero when it is not totally deserved. He actually has very little to do with the economy (just ask any Republican that when talking about Clinton! lol), and does not have the power to declare war....both of the above situations belong squarely on Congress' shoulders (except that the president can ask them to declare war).
It does seem a little unfair to hold a "Bush Bash" without giving acknowledgement to his supporters. He has very high approval ratings, even though he got less than half of the people to vote for him.
Honestly, I haven't liked any President from Eisenhower to the present, though there were good and bad things about each one (in retrospect).
I'd be much happier with an intellectual like George Will for President, someone who could explain things and make sense. Even if I disagreed with their agenda.
We are living in a "new world order", which has been coming since Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt in an enormous arms race, which ultimately bankrupted the Soviet Union, and won the cold war. Good or bad? I despised Reagan at the time, but maybe he was right...?
What GWB is doing now is on the scale of Reagan. He may not understand what he is doing, and that is scary, but the plans for the "war on terror" were made long before he became President. And we can hope for the best.
At least history won't call him a "do nothing" President, hah!
Tippecanoe and Tyler too.
Possibly the worst job on the planet.
Half the country hates W and the other half likes him....
It's a wash...
We celebrate our freedom of speech just being able to be vocal about it....
in the end..... get out and vote......I whined about Gore losing and forgot about it....
When I run in '08 everyone will be sorry...
tax breaks for everyone and I will put a cap on CEO salaries.
Mike Eisner goes to jail, Dr Kevorkian will be the Surgeon General,
Everyone will have to learn how to write again. Cold pizza for Saturday morning breakfast. No more criminals in sports.
Music cds- 5 bucks a piece, their ain't no good music no more.
Your kid effs-up, parents will be held responsible. Everyone must go to disneyland and ride 'It's a Small World' - if animatronic puppets can live together, why can't we?????
drive with a cell phone??? we take the windshield off you car-try it then!! death penalty for killing anyone, eye for an eye?????
naw, we are taking your life, punk. NO more low riding jeans
and Paris Hilton will be the first woman on Mars.
I'll make it mandatory that Erin Collins marry me and disco
parties on the white house lawn the last Thursday of the month.
Steal a car and do the high speed chase thing with the cops????
Put them on a track and have at it.....last one running wins..
Make tennis scoring in points....not that retarded 'double match point break' crap I loathe so much...
Free aspirin in the hospitals and when you think you know it all, you won't because everyone will have to read 50 books a year....
Did I mention Erin Collins????
Okay, I admit it. I had to look up Erin Collins on google.
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Originally posted by babolaypo65
Okay, I admit it. I had to look up Erin Collins on google.
Whatever floats your boat?:D
of course I'll comission an aircraft carrier named after me!!!Quote:
Originally posted by babolaypo65
Whatever floats your boat?:D
As pres I can do anything!;)
lol! you guys are funny! i know io already said this, but my sencond favorite site (after PT ofcourse) is www.dubyaspeak.com it's a bush sute but all the stuff on there is true...
Richard, you need to run in '04...there is NO ONE I like. I cast my vote for Richard from California.;)
I dunno. I'd need to see his drug record first.;)Quote:
Originally posted by mugsy
Richard, you need to run in '04...there is NO ONE I like. I cast my vote for Richard from California.;)
Richard, what will be your campaign slogan!!!???
In my completely undereconomiclyeducated opinion (whew, that was a mouthful) our economic woes are a part of the natural ebb and flow of economies. Laws of physics: what goes up must come down. This is really a historical cycle which has repeated itself over history. Just happens to be in our lifetime, so we freak about it. Does anybody remember the gas lines under the Carter administration?
The dip we're experiencing now is not because of any administration. It is because investors pour billions of dollars into internet stocks which have no physical holdings. Yes, they had value, but it was cyber value and was alot of smoke an mirrors. Not because of unfair practices like Enron, but because the internet is not a flesh and blood economy. It was bound to collapse at some point.
Economies are anything but natural.
The truth is that government is a tiny fraction of our economy, but public policy and public percerption make the mountains shake.
Like a law passed under Reagan-Bush to subsidize US companies moving their physical plant overseas.
And NAFTA, under Clinton (who was elected in part because Ross Perot drew the Republicans that opposed NAFTA), which altered trade with Mexico.
These two programs eroded the tax base all over the country, as one job in manufacturing supports 17 in service.
These two programs altered our economy fundamentally, forever and not for better.
Broad-based tax cuts also alter the economy by boosting consumer spending. Reducing the prime interest rate stimulates the construction/new home market, but decimates the income of seniors who get part of their income from interest on their savings. and a hundred more examples.
The President's only real power over any of this is to sign or veto bills that pass Congress. Our legislators are the real villians.
As far as deficits are concerned, this is always interesting.:rolleyes: