Sorry to hear about your friend, babolaypo. Do you think the diet contributed to her death?
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Sorry to hear about your friend, babolaypo. Do you think the diet contributed to her death?
Interesting. We just talked about the Adkins diet yesterday at WW. D, our instructor, made a very valid point,and one that I have always thought to be true. She said that it doesn't matter if you eat too many carbs or too much protein, or too much anything, you will gain weight. It matters about the number of calories you take in. People who deprive themselves on diets are doomed to fail. I am a fan of the "pyramid" diet. You need to have a balanced diet with variety to prevent boredom. I'm very happy with the WW diet because you eat as you choose and keep track of your points and make sure you get 5 fruits or vegetables and 3 milks and drink your water. I eat a bowl of oatmeal and a banana for breakfast every morning now and I feel loads better. I have a yogurt and whatever else I choose for lunch and then a variety of different things for dinner. I don't feel deprived or hungry.
You know, I'm not sure. She was older. Many of her friends DO think it was directly responsible. I'm just not sure. Perhaps at least in part...Quote:
Originally posted by mahayana
Sorry to hear about your friend, babolaypo. Do you think the diet contributed to her death?
Ok as a diabetic being monotered by my doc on Atkins I must really protest. Yes too much of anything is bad for you. I have to go slower on the program as the meds i am on slow the diet down. The first two weeks are the toughest and then it's not NO carbs just low.
If you read the whole book your self you realize it makes Perfect sense!!!
The problem is just as any diet people do not check with doctors and do it with out approvel. I have also heard many horroir stories on them. I have tried every thing under the sun and this is the thing working for me . My sugars have not only stabizled and I am getting rid of some of my meds down to 4 not 6 different ones a day. Most doctoers and cererl companies don't want you to doit couse then they lose money becouse of falling sales and healthier people don't need to see them as much.
I listened to another interview on NPR that discussed a study of various popular weight-loss diets, including Atkins and Weight watchers. They found that every diet worked, for people who followed them faithfully. And every one failed for those that didn't.
If you lock someone in a dungeon and only feed them bread and water, even the most obese person will come out skinny!
Americans are very fortunate to have a choice of diet, and to have an abundance of good quality, relatively inexpensive food.
I totally understand Corinna. If someone is under a doctor's care and they recommend a diet, that's what you should go with. I just can't lose when I feel deprived and if I had to be miserable for 2 weeks, I would quit, but that's me. I know you said that you couldn't lose on WW and that Adkins works for you and that's great. The problem comes in, as you said, is that people just go off half cocked and do it wrong. I just couldn't give up my carbs!! I just have cut back on the pastas (although I eat the Smart Ones lasagna all the time). I love whole wheat bread.
Yes its not the diets that fail, its the human beings try to follow them, many of you already know I am a firm believer in WEIGHT WATCHERS, I personally have no time for all these other different diets, WW is recommended by the heart foundation and all doctors will say go for it, if you need to loose weight.
Its great because it allows you to eat everything in MODERATION and that my folks to me is the success of keeping that weight off, and when we indulge or I should say over indulge, thats when the pounds sneak on.
I am not at all suprised to hear this about the Atkins Diet, my girlfriend tried it for a few weeks, sure she lost weight, everyone does who sticks to any diet, but she could only last a few weeks, and had the weight back on in no time at all.
For those that have successfully kept their weight off no matter which diet you tried, congratulations , and WELL DONE.
The people I had seen on the news HAD followed the diet, and still ended up skinny and ill. The one man said "I traded a 34 inch waist for heart disease."
Fad Diets are my pet peeve. I hate them!!! But, I don't believe in dieting anyway. I believe we all need to learn healthy lifestyles. The idea that it is healthy to completly eliminate a food group is off.
Fad diets prey on people who are looking for an easy way out- a quick fix.
The thing with Atkins and heart disease is two-fold. First, the diet- the way most people do it- is murder on your arteries. I mean hamburgers for breakfast? Come on.
But second, many people who try these fad diets are already to a point that their weight has seriously compromised their vascular system. So, it's doubly dangerous.
Exactly 2kitties! There are many ways to lose weight, but we must ask ourselves if they're healthy ways or not. Weight loss can be critical in some very obese people and everyone who is overweight would be better off shedding a few lbs, but if the way you're doing will cause more harm, then it's really not a solution.
Sure I could drop 40 lbs if I used methamphetamines, but that's not healthy. I could drop more if I only ate fruit. Once again not healthy. My point is that there are many ways to lose weight, but the smartest and healthiest one is to monitor calories, eat healthy, and move your butt!
I'm not doing any of those, though! :p
Or for really obese people, that stomach stapling thing works. Then you get full with less food.
gastric bypass is major surgery and dangerous- a last resort to what should have been dealt with years before with diet and exercise.
Right. That's why I said really obese. Someone over 300 pounds is going to die from heart attack or stroke; putting them on a diet that they probably won't stick to is prolonging their health risk.
Do you know of harm done by this? I just have experience of two relatives who are normal weight now by having this procedure.
These people could hardly get out of a chair by themselves. They were out of breath walking to their mailbox. I couldn't carry the amount of weight they each lost; a 90 pound sack of concrete is about the limit to what I can pick up and carry.
A five minute internet search will turn up plenty of harm caused by any major surgery. But you know that. I'm glad you friends have had good luck, plenty of people have. That doesn't change the fact that a healthy diet and active lifestyle could've saved them from reaching morbid obesity in the first place.
Like I said, a last resort.
Speaking of stomach stapling, I just saw a news report (cnn headline news) on a "new" procedure where they put a "pacemaker" in your stomach that makes your stomach think it's full. Folks are losing weight like crazy. Again, may be an interesting option for the morbidly obese.
segue, yes, I admit it, I bought low carb beer tonight. Its not bad!:D