For you people that don't like hunters...

Well, I have never met a hunter around here that was nice. Never. I have talked to many hunters and introduced myself, and all that they said was " Good for you." I am not saying that all hunters are rude at all. Just these. I have nothing against what they do. Just how they party all night, get drunk, and go do stupid stuff. I am not saying that all hunters do that. The hunters around here do it every night. I do think that it was rude of them to yell at the dogs though. They were coming close to the fence and whistling at them, so what do you expect a dog to do? Go up and lick them on the face? It was like those guys didn't even think about the odds. I just mean that there is a hunter club right next door and they are going to get bit soon. They sort of stick their fingers through the fence and ram stuff into the fence just to make the dogs' barking ferious so that they can have a reason to tell them to shut up. I am not going to ask them to stop. I am in no mood to talk to a whole pack of drunks right now.

Having own an excessive barking dog, (Molly) I KNOW it really gets annoying. But, telling her to "shut up" isn't going to work, unless I tell her too. Sometimes even then, it doesn't. My neighboor has told her to shut up before, and told me to "put a muzzle on that thing" which I found incredibly rude. Their dog is a "barkaholic" too, and is the one who get's Molly started. Like I said, I know it can be annoying but other people yelling at her only makes it worse.

As for the hunting issue, I don't think they're all bad people.

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Not when the dog doesn't belong to you. That's just rude. You could at least ask the owner (if they are there) to get their dog to be quiet but you should never just start yelling "Shut up" at a dog, ANY dog. JMO. I don't know, I know I would feel insulted if someone just told my dog to shut up.

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You know, people, telling a dog to "Shut up." isn't the same thing as telling a child to "Shut up." A dog is not going to think, "Gee, that was rude. Why didn't she phrase that in a less offensive manner?" It's a dog. It doesn't speak English. It understands tone of voice. I board and groom thousands upon thousands of dogs every years. The vast majority of them know some version of, "Hush! Quiet! No bark!" and .. yes, many of them respond to, "Shut up!" It depends on what they hear at home. Almost every dog recognises the stern, sharp tone of voice associated with those commands.

If you are standing there, you should make your own dog be quiet. If you did, no one would have to tell your dog to be quiet for you. I can't even fathom standing by and listening to your dog barking and barking and barking at your neighbors (whether you like them or not is irrelevant) and not making your dog quit barking. THAT is the height of rudeness, IMO. That is one of your responsibilites as a pet owner, to make sure your pet is not offensive to other people. Dog owners that allow their dogs to bark and bark and bark while they are standing right there give ALL dog owners a bad name, and ALL dogs a bad reputation.

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A dog barks. A dog is going to bark. Just like a bird chirps or a cat meows. Should I tell a bird to shut up after their whistling and 'singing' got annoying? Or a cat to, when it meows?

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Well, a bird or a cat is most likely not going to be standing at the fence line, meowing or chirping in a very LOUD voice, for hours on end, the way some dogs do. Dogs can also be trained not to bark repetitively, or to bark for recreation. Part of being a responsible dog owner is training your dog not to be a nuisance.

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Originally posted by Kfamr
Uhh.. Hello?!

A dog barks. A dog is going to bark. Just like a bird chirps or a cat meows. Should I tell a bird to shut up after their whistling and 'singing' got annoying? Or a cat to, when it meows?

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How often do you hear of neighbors complaining of a bird's whistle or a cat's meow? Almost never. Birds are indoor pets...........almost no one ever leaves them in the yard. Even if they are loud, its in their own walls. They aren't disturbing anyone. Most people find the songs of birds to be beautiful and enjoy their singing anyway. Of course it depends of the species too. Some parrots have a horrible shriek voice. :o Either way, cats and birds don't disturb neighbors. Dogs however...........some of them do. We have about 10+ dogs in the homes of neighbors that are very close to our home. Most of them are responsible owners, and we've never even heard their dogs. This one dog though, is the most annoying thing on the planet. Are you telling me that if you're sleeping at 2am, and the dog next door keeps howling and barking at the top of his lungs for hours straight.......you wouldn't be upset? That's what this dog does to us. I *hate* his barking.......I despise his voice, and many times I wish he weren't in our neighborhood. I love our other neighbors' dogs.......they're the most well behaved things. This one though....I despise him and his owners, no offense. Honestly, if my birds started singing at 2am, I would tell them to shut up too. :p My birds understand *shhhh*, and immediately quiet down when I tell them that. I find no reason why a dog wouldn't be able to know the same. Animals are intelligent and dogs and parrots are both known to learn basic commands very well. My neighbors' dogs quiet down when they tell them to. They DO understand. If they don't know the word, they know the tone.

i'm sure dogs can understand shhhh if they have been trained to be quiet, but i seriously doubt that they will accosiate some stranger yelling shut up in thier faces with shhhh.

Birds shreik way too much around here, especially pet ones that live down the street. Cats may not meow alot, but a dog's bark is the same as a cats meow and a bird's chirp, "sing".


LMFAOFFALMP Whatever you guys say. :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes: :D


Still, having some stranger tell a dog to shut up probably won't work. If some person came up to our fence telling our dogs to shut up, they'd just bark more. Protecting their territory. Of course, I'd be out there calming them down. that's why you should talk to the owner, not the dog, because the owners understand English, not dogs. ( Like TD said)


My neighbors that moved in across the street at the begining of this year, never knew we had dogs until I brought them over to meet.

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Originally posted by Kfamr
Birds shreik way too much around here, especially pet ones that live down the street. Cats may not meow alot, but a dog's bark is the same as a cats meow and a bird's chirp, "sing".

Still, having some stranger tell a dog to shut up probably won't work. If some person came up to our fence telling our dogs to shut up, they'd just bark more. Protecting their territory. Of course, I'd be out there calming them down. that's why you should talk to the owner, not the dog, because the owners understand English, not dogs. ( Like TD said)

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Yep, Piper's REALLY LOUD. He wakes me up every night chirping and squawking at who know's what. :o
Yep, My dogs would just bark more. Molly ususally just does it to protect her territory, but she also isn't fond of some of our neighboors...

Of course, a lot of hunters have dogs; pointers, beagles, huntin' dogs.

Some really are dog people, some are gun-owning crazies.

I like the American Indian hunter, asking permission of the animal's spirit before taking its life.

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Originally posted by mahayana
I like the American Indian hunter, asking permission of the animal's spirit before taking its life.

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And what if the animal's spirit said, "No!"? ;)

You are right, even feeling a spiritual connection to an animal doesn't make it pleasant for the deer to feel the arrow pierce its skin. Guess I was just idealizing being connected to nature, rather than bagging your limit.

I know a man who had herds of deer trampling through his homestead, destroying his garden. He finally got a rifle and license in self-defense. And there are arguments about managing wild populations, for the good of the most animals.

I don't dislike hunters. But when they are shooting on three sides of my property I wear a red hat, hah!

The dog across from me is a barker. I've gotten to know him, I know his name. Now, when I arrive home, or a friend comes over, I just say, that's enough Teddy, and he stops.
Fergie next door, goes MENTAL with excitement each time I go in to my back yard. With Fergie I just say shhh fergie. And she (usually) calms down.

I doubt either Fergie's dad, or Teddy's mom and dad mind. I've also told Teddy's mom and dad on more than one occassion that it's nice to have such a good GSD guard dog in the neighborhood.

In each case, I've gotten to know the dog a bit, know his/her name.... and am often able to calm them when they are agitated.
Yes, dogs bark. But sometimes they bark too much. Why is trying to calm them bad?

Short answer. I don't think it's categorically wrong to try to get a neighbor's dog to stop barking. IF you are truly just annoyed by the dog. If you're mad at the owners, don't take it out on the dog.

A dog barking is the same as a cat meowing? Good Grief, Charlie Brown....whatever are you talking about? Other than the decibal difference, the duration, and frequency, uh, maybe? Sheesh, Louise, Sheesh. They couldn't be anymore the same than a live band vs. a clock radio. Get a grip on some sort of reality, please.

As to hunters? I have major problems with 'them'. The difference between the meat packing industry and 'hunting'? The meat packers aren't getting off on the 'sport' of it.

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Either way, cats and birds don't disturb neighbors.

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Hi popcornbird,

I have to disagree with this statement. I've not had any
sleepless nights in my neighborhood due to dogs, but have
had, due to the shrieking birds of the neighbors behind me. I
think they must birdsit for some friends, thank god, because it
only happens ever so often. The noise is so piercing there's
no sleeping through it and unlike dogs, the birds being inside,
isn't enough to buffer the sound from traveling through my
walls.

And as to cats, I had a pair having a cat fight on my car one
night and not only was it loud enough to wake the dead, but
it scratched the hood of my car all up. That was way more
irritating to me then any dog barking. I also have them coming
into my backyard, teasing Murph and Maddie, pooping in
my flowerbeds and drinking from the dogs waterbowls. This also
is extremely irritating. Not only do they set M&M off, but I've
no idea what type of disease or parasite they might be bringing
into my backyard. So as far as I'm concerned the birds and the
cats have been waaaaayyyyyy more disturbing to me than any
dog in the neighborhood.

Par...

Oh yeah Par..

The neighbors cats use to ALWAYS walk on my mother's nice Camaro, leaving footprints and scratches AALLLLLL over it.

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Originally posted by Cataholic
Get a grip on some sort of reality, please.

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Sheesh Louise, I have a grip of reality, THNX.