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I know what you mean :( I wish the "aggressive dogs" would suddenly stop attacking and that we would hear more of the "family dogs" attacking (not like I want dog attacks, lol, I just wished that for once publicity would see the retrievers and the labs and the other more "family- type" (:rolleyes: ) dogs than have to blame rotties and shepherds and dobies and pitbulls and so on :mad: )
[ I feel sorry for the child. and for the parents lost. I also feel sorry for the dogs.Rotties are not a bad mean dog unless they are made that way and provote,I am 37 yrs old and I had 6 rotties, and three of them I saves and they age was 11mths old from a shelter, the other one was a yr old and the last one was a 5yr old, and NO I DID NOT have any kids at the time,but a yr later I did have a little boy,at the time I had two male and one one female,when I brought him home,every one said I was crazy,but I wasnt the rotties did great,And if you own one or more you SHOULD know not to leave you kids or small pets alone.Dogs are kids to more then you know,and rotties have a specail spot in my heart just like my kids.if you leave your kids alone and grow with out teaching them the right way they will do what they want too do,dogs are the same way, that inclueds all breeds, I had three rotties the mom and two of her son, along with four kids, and nothing why?? well I train my pets and teach the kids. thanks for reading
Rotties pits and other dogs get the blame for shit that they cant help not saying its the parents faults or the 4 yr old,but no one was around when it happen,they even put the female in heat down too,What the hell did she do to get killed:confused: not a thing she was locked up.While back down in N.C there was a 9 yr old boy that was told to go home bye a 16 yr girl and he didnt he climb a 8 ft stockade fence and two Masstiffs and a st bernard attack him but didnt kill him, the owners of the dogs wasnt sure why they attack for!!! Well let see they was doing what they do best Graud the family,the 9 yr old boy shouldnt been there,but he did and the three dogs was put down,,,When I was about 5 6 yrs old I had a shepard mix she was a great dog didnt like any one but me and my Father,and she didnt attack no kids or even try to bit them,DOGS R KIDS!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfsoul
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People need to be responsible and train their pets correctly.
This crap that rotts and pitts are going to tear people apart is ridiculous. We have 3 pitts, one rott and one foxhound. Our one pitt is on her way to becoming CGC. The dogs even live with 2 cats and 2 rats peacefully. Its called training. Duh.
I'm sorry to vent but I'm so sick of people judging our dogs. I've had many dogs, and my favorite breeds are pitts and rotts. If you look up stats for dog bites before you even get to pits, you see labs, retrievers, and a couple little dog breeds, then pitts and rotts. Those idiots who judge rotts and pitts but buy a lab, are more likely to be it by their dog then me with 4. Idiots.
It is a parent's job to watch their kids and pups. I feel awful that this child was killed, and the thought of this happening to my younger brother makes my stomah turn but the rotts were probably put out back for a reason while the guests were over, and this father should have been watching his son. I feel like the father should be charged for neglect! The owner did what he needed to prevent this by having them outside. I would never leave my dos with my brother, no matter how much I trust them all.
It comes back to people need to control their freaking kids instead of blaiming their errors on other things... like dogs, made up disorders, video games... its all ridiculous.
Keep in mind this thread is several years old ...
Yeah, I just saw that, but there are ones all the time very similar to it coming out all the time. In order to adopt our first pit we had to go through multiple interviews and applications, and now no agency will let us adopt, even though they say they want to change the stigma.
I guess when I saw this it hit a sore spot. We took our dogs to Petsmart with us the other day, and a lady with her duaghter went to pet our dogs. She said "oh no not the big one (the rott), just the little ones, what are they?". When we told her they were pitts she put her daughter behind her and backed away saying "you shouldn't bring those dogs out to places with people." It just saddens me.
Hmm, next time, try telling her they are staffordshire or terriers - less scary a name. And a pitbull terrier is a terrier! After the child has petted and played with the pups, and you are leaving, you can then choose to say, "they are 'pitbull terriers,' but people get nervous because of the name, and I wanted your child to have a pleasant experience. They LOVE kids, and getting petted and this helps them with their socialization, too!"
Just my two cents.
Thats a great idea. At our old apartent we always said they were terriers too.
They couldn't tell what it was just by looking at it? They are a very recognizable breed!
I thought the reason people point the finger esp. at Rotties and Pitbulls is because they have been historically bred as attack dogs. But I don't think they take into consideration the fact that ANY dog raised improperly can be equally as vicious as a vicious aggressive breed. But I thought I did read somewhere that a Pitbull has the worst bite of any dog because its jaws lock extremely tight...I have to admit they scare me a little... In the town I grew up in a woman's Pitbulls mauled & killed her elderly father while he was home alone :(
Also, I work for an insurance agency and it's kind of sad because if someone writes any aggressive dog breed onto a homeowner app, even into a 'mix', they automatically want to see a picture of the dog, and if that dog looks close enough to one of those 'aggressive' breeds they can nix the policy. Sometimes they don't, but they can with the snap of their finger. And if the dog is pure bred then there is no way. One company is a little more lenient on German Shepherds, oddly enough.
my huskies are not familliar with kids and dont know what they are, i dont know how they would react. i was reading an article somewhere that the most bites occur with a family fav dog i believe it was a golden. the bite force is different in all dogs. the dog can intend the same meaning with a bite but inflict different amounts of damage. i love rotties and now i cant have one due to bsl :(
"Pit Bulls" are necessarily THAT recognizable. Partly because most of the dogs who are in the news and attacking people are horrendously bred, poorly cared for mish-mashes of numerous bully breeds. Pit Bull is more a term than it is a breed. American Pit Bull Terriers are compact, lean, athletic, and fairly balanced... not the beefy, 80 lb hippo heads that a lot of people envision. See if you can find the "Pit Bull": http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by noellenc
Rottweilers are an all-around breed, performing several jobs from cart-pulling to baby-sitting to herding livestock to protection. "Pit Bulls" were originally bred as bull baiters, protecting people from bulls, and in the last century or so for dog-fighting. NEVER has the Pit Bull's intention been to act as a guard dog. In fact, they were bred to be very people friendly so as not to attack the people throwing them in and pulling them out of the bull and dog fighting rings. Neither breed is historically an "attack dog". That is thanks to horribly irresponsible owners, neglect, abuse, and a lack of any training and socialization for the most part. Both breeds are people and family oriented. Bite statistics based on breed is stupid... it only paints a very, very small part of the big picture. What are the statistics of bite cases in different areas? What are the statistics of breeds in inner cities? What are the statistics of instances where the dog bite is NOT due to complete owner negligence? Etc, etc, etc. I hate how people's natural tendency is to want to immediately point fingers, jump to conclusions, and pick a scapegoat to blame all of our own faults on. :(
I do recognize that this whole post is years old, and I am not sure I saw it originally. Having a 4 year old son, I take exception to the comment that "people need to control their freaking kids...". I don't "control" my child. And, no matter how viligant an adult may be, kids this age are notorious for sneaking out the door. While I may be blessed with a child that has never opened a door and walked out, unattended (without my knowledge), I also had hotel locks installed at the top of each door to avoid the possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by lilnuttbutt
Having been around big dogs my entire life growing up, I can tell you without question that NONE of the 5-6 dogs (at one time) would never have attacked any of us kids (of which there were a lot of us, too). I think this is horrific. I can think of no justification for keeping dogs that would do this to a child (or an adult). As a parent, having my own dog tear my own child apart...there would have been NO hesititation as to my next course of action as it relates to the dog.
This is a parent's worst nightmare. You don't want anyone blaming the dogs? Okay, your perogative. On the same token, you cannot blame the child or the parent, either. Even in the BEST of circumstances, momentary inattention is a real possibility. No one is perfect...(despite claims otherwise), and that is a facet of life. No one should have to factor in their child being torn apart by family pets.
Ugh... but seriously, how clueless can one be? 3 unknown dogs. 1 dog in heat. The dogs are going to be extremely over-stimulated and excited. And no one knows what that kid did, because no one was there, at all. I lived with my little brother and Gonzo for 5 years, and I can honestly say in those 5 years they were never once alone together. It isn't that hard. I was a teenager, and I had enough sense to keep track of them both. No one is perfect, but when you have a young child, you should at least be in the general vicinity of where they are.
I've noticed that in so many of these cases, a dog in heat and unaltered males are involved. A few years ago in my area, a little boy was left alone for a long period unattened with two intact male dogs and a female in heat, and he was killed. I wouldn't leave DOGS alone together with a female in heat around - period. Much less with the possibility of a kid getting in the middle of it. It's very sad for the parents, but it's 100% their fault, unfortunately. Setting both the dogs and the child up for a disaster. Some people should not have dogs or kids ever.
Seriously? In 5 years, never? I would love to know what others that have dogs and children say to this. In the normal course of a day, I shower alone, use the bathroom alone, run up and down the stairs to do laundry alone, fold and put away laundry alone, prepare meals alone. I cannot imagine making the statement that my child is never alone with a dog. You are suggesting that you took your dog with you when you did all this activity? I find that very hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that most parents of smaller children and dog do as you suggest. You are either very unusual, or knew you had a dog with 'tendencies'.Quote:
Originally Posted by bckrazy
Life happens. Accidents happen. I turned my back for two seconds and my son rolled off the changing table. Classic example...I KNEW better...and I am far from a negligent parent...my son fell just the other day, running...I was in the general vicinity...just didn't have 5 foot arms to catch him. Things happen even when one is right on top of their child. The distinguishing factor is that in the normal course of life there ARE accidents...then, there are those things that one can never imagine happening. Family pets tearing apart the child is one of them.