What do you mean by that? What problem could my abstaining from drinking cause?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
What do you mean by that? What problem could my abstaining from drinking cause?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
I wasn't singling out anyone. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
In general, as a 'theory', I don't think abstaining works. I think it leads to binge drinking, to hiding drinking, to glamorizing drinking, to demonizing drinking. Drinking isn't the problem, addiction is the problem.
Everything in moderation, including moderation.
No, it's okay, maybe I just read your post wrong. I see what you mean now. I probably should have also explained that the doctors had no problems with roller coasters.
Anyway, I agree 100% with moderation. I've seen my friends get black-out drunk at parties, and it's just so dumb and in my mind, maybe just mine, but irresponsible. They always text me the next day telling me they regret. :rolleyes: But that's not what you were saying when I tried to stop you. :p
LOL, yeah I did write a novel! I tried to answer everyones post all at once. :p
Oh, okay! I guess what you mean is "Preaching abstinence leads to problems."Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
I don't drink, but don't make a fuss about it, and know my decision is mine alone. What works for me doesn't necessarily work for everyone! And I don't binge drink, hide drinking, glamorize or demonize drinking or any of the other things you list!
Actually, I mean abstinence...LOL. Most people do not 'abstain' from much in life. That whole all or nothing theory does not sit well with me, at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
And, FWIW? I have never, ever thrown up on a single person in my life, and have never witnessed another person (with the exception of a sick child) do so, either. You must have ran around with some real winners!
Remember, I went to the Massachusetts College of Art - so not exactly your normal cross-section of humanity!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
My favorite quote. I use it a lot. Every now and then you have to let it rip, be extreme to one end or another. I got plastered once in my mid twenties. I just drank too fast. I was sick all night. It was horrible. After I starting feeling better my first thought was, "and they did this every weekend?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Cataholic
I miss alcohol a little bit right now. The celiac disease limits what I can drink but the heart medicines mean nothing for a while. It's an easy decision. I think I miss soda more.
Be reasonable about what you can do, Alysser. We would like you to hang around for a while with us.
Since the standpoint of a parent has already been elaborated upon, perhaps I can offer the standpoint of a friend! :)
Alyssa, you may feel that your friends are being a little patronising, and quite rightly so, since it's never nice to be made to feel inferior whether it's intentional or not. However, your friends are more than likely thinking about the implications should anything go wrong.
I have two friends with underlying conditions, which could potentially be quite serious should they act against the doctor's orders. If I'm concerned about them, I let them know. If they tell me that there's no need to worry, and honestly mean it, then the conversation stops there. But the reason that I ask in the first place is to be sure that my friend isn't being too blasé with respect to their condition.
This is because I would HATE for something to, firstly, happen at all, and secondly, to hear from their family post said incident: 'And you didn't say anything?' I think that's the worst of it. Call it self-preservation if you will, but I personally couldn't deal with that kind of guilt!
Vets are just as bad, if not worse... our latest summer ball was truly an embarrassment. Be careful whom you take you pets to! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Karen
I like the 'everything in moderation' phrase too, and often apply it to drinking. Yet, being a vegetarian, I suppose I don't really have the right to use it... :D We all abstain from something or other!