sarah palin

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Burning straw man?

I have given up on most of the news channels.

Talk about biased?

I tune into the car crash that is msnbc to cath every angle and if that is not straight away hate speech?

Keith Olbermann is the best by far. Rachel Madcow and her spastic facial tics/head tilts are a riot.

I am tired of Glen Beck crying, I don't do Hannity anymore-pompous little twit- and Bill O waffles more than one of Tiger Woods' pancake girlfriends.:eek::rolleyes:

NPR are beset with commies, tree huggers and self righteous idealists that only care about the end result, not any of the means of getting there.


So, Sarah Palin will make a difference?

Probably not-But, maybe the women who hate her so much should ask their sisters not to enter politics.

Maybe a nice kitchen and babies galore is the answer?:confused::rolleyes::o:eek::mad:

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

I understand Palin is taking a job with Fox. Could it be about the money?

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I must have missed the rule about politicians taking a vow of poverty. What's wrong with earning money? :confused:

I think it's a good move for her. I hope she doesn't run for office again. I have never seen anyone get attacked like that. They attacked her whole family. (Naturally, they left the Obama kids alone.) Why would someone put their family through that again?

I think she did the right thing resigning as Govenor. We all know what a waste of time and money a lame duck session can be. She was right to step aside so that the State of Alaska didn't have to keep wasting money defending BS lawsuits against her.

Would you admire her more if she had done what Obama did? He was the Senator from Illinois for 4 years. Took the money but did pretty much nothing for the State he represented and ran for President almost the whole time. How much of Illinois' interests were really a priority for him? He was too busy raising funds to run for President than to do the job he was paid to do.

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Originally Posted by kuhio98

I must have missed the rule about politicians taking a vow of poverty. What's wrong with earning money? :confused:

I think it's a good move for her. I hope she doesn't run for office again. I have never seen anyone get attacked like that. They attacked her whole family. (Naturally, they left the Obama kids alone.) Why would someone put their family through that again?

I think she did the right thing resigning as Govenor. We all know what a waste of time and money a lame duck session can be. She was right to step aside so that the State of Alaska didn't have to keep wasting money defending BS lawsuits against her.

Would you admire her more if she had done what Obama did? He was the Senator from Illinois for 4 years. Took the money but did pretty much nothing for the State he represented and ran for President almost the whole time. How much of Illinois' interests were really a priority for him? He was too busy raising funds to run for President than to do the job he was paid to do.

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I am not a fan of Palin, I think she came across as a ditz most of the time. BUT, I agree with you on both the media attacks and the vow of poverty. Last I checked, she is still free to make money, advance her (or the party's) cause, etc. If she wants to make movies, that is pretty much up to her, right?

I think she is just greasing the wheel for a run at the presidency next time. She can use Fox to get people to know her and back her. (won't work in my case but it may for others) :love:

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

I am not a fan of Palin, I think she came across as a ditz most of the time. BUT, I agree with you on both the media attacks and the vow of poverty. Last I checked, she is still free to make money, advance her (or the party's) cause, etc. If she wants to make movies, that is pretty much up to her, right?

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This is exactly how I feel, not sure why so many people are obsessed with her every move.

We have a good Medical system here , but its far from perfect.
I feel that there are a lot of doctors who take advantage of the fact that they are billing the Government and add extra charges.
In 2008 the accountant found 1.6 BILLION dollars of dubious charges and wanted the Doctors to calrify their billing.
Somehow the files got erased and the Doctos got paid.
Thats an awful lot of waste , but most people think that its a free system.
Not a chance that money comes from the same cash cow, the over taxed Middle Class.
The Poor cant pay, and The Rich have accountants.

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

If it was former VP candidate Steve Palin making the same moves, not a word would be said.

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If the VPcandidate were Steve Palin, he would not have been picked.
The Party was after the womens vote, remember.:p

I think it is just that she is a polarizing figure, not because of her gender or anything else. The last VP candidate I remember that didn't get into office was Lloyd Bentsen, and that's only because of his "You are no Jack Kennedy" quote that got replayed and replayed and replayed and replayed.

Sarah Palin speaking on the Glenn Beck Show -

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"I would be perfectly happy to go back to Wasilla, Alaska, with my five children and my grandson and raise a happy, healthy family loving our great outdoors – doing the things we do in Alaska. But, if I believe that in some capacity I can help this great nation, I’m going to be willing to sacrifice and to change some things in my lifestyle in order to, in order to serve. That doesn’t have to mean, though, top dog. That doesn’t have to mean really – entail having any kind of title.”

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And if anyone really believes that first sentence, I know of a bridge for sale.

If she did go back - we wouldn't be talking about her. She puts herself out there, and then wonders why the big commotion. Just like the Paris Hilton types who can't breathe unless their picture is on the front page.

Exactly!

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Originally Posted by Grace

Sarah Palin speaking on the Glenn Beck Show -



And if anyone really believes that first sentence, I know of a bridge for sale.

If she did go back - we wouldn't be talking about her. She puts herself out there, and then wonders why the big commotion. Just like the Paris Hilton types who can't breathe unless their picture is on the front page.

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I watch bits and pieces of all the stations. As I said I try to get the facts and then make a sound judgement. Fox doesn't give many facts, they give opinions. Yes most stations are a bit to the left or the right, but Fox is extreme. Fox acts as if the American people cannot think for themselves they have to be told what to think, do and say.
I believe maybe 50 percent of what I hear from CNN, NBC, CBS and maybe 2 % from Fox.
When did reporting the news mean giving opinions? With TV, internet, newspaper, radio we can educate ourselves with the facts. Unless we are a=holes like Pat Robertson who believes the poor people of Haiti deserve this horrible thing. :mad::mad:
I laugh at the dripple Fox puts on the air because like Pat Robertson I can't believe what I am hearing or that anyone would believe some of the things that are said.
Last week on Fox there were 4 people debating and one women (don't know who she was) said that the American people are NOT worried about health care they are worried about their jobs, HELLO HELLO, excuse me but many people get their health care through their work, no job no health care. I couldn't believe she said that, it was so shocking and stupid.
And yet millions of people watch Fox and millions think Pat Robertson is great, go figure, it's a mad, mad world out there.

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Originally Posted by Medusa

I'm curious then as to how you can say it isn't a news channel and that it's biased if you don't watch it. If you laugh and scream at the TV, that's hardly watching it, so to make such a judgment is unreasonable. It may be a conservative station but the rest of the stations are liberal, so what's the problem?

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Originally Posted by catmandu

We have a good Medical system here , but its far from perfect.
I feel that there are a lot of doctors who take advantage of the fact that they are billing the Government and add extra charges.
In 2008 the accountant found 1.6 BILLION dollars of dubious charges and wanted the Doctors to calrify their billing.
Somehow the files got erased and the Doctos got paid.
Thats an awful lot of waste , but most people think that its a free system.
Not a chance that money comes from the same cash cow, the over taxed Middle Class.
The Poor cant pay, and The Rich have accountants.

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Thanks Gary. I just heard news of a group of doctors and others getting busted here for the same sort of thing: fraudulent billing of Medicare for dubious charges.

No matter what system or where, there will always be greedy people trying to cash in on it.

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Originally Posted by Catty1

Pat, there is a movement afoot to make for-profit services available, and some of it is in place.

For example - my new doc wants me to have a sleep study. I can wait 8 months to a year for the detailed overnight one, which is paid for by the government insurance - or I can do a short one where I bring the test machine home for $183 and change. They were able to take me in two days from the time they called me - I had to make it later, to Monday.

But no, to have it ALL for-profit? A lot of people would suffer, and would even die here.

The only concern with a for-profit element here is that the better doctors and others would work for the profit system, and the public system would be inferior. That is NOT fair.

JMO

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Thanks, Candace. This is the kind of thing I hear about from the anti-"socialized-medicine" crowd. Their slant is, "People in Canada have to wait forever to get something done, so they come here to get it done sooner."

I don't think any system can be all-good, or all-bad for that matter. The trick is how to work it all out best for the health of all concerned.

This topic really deserves its own thread, I think. Maybe I'll start one. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

I watch bits and pieces of all the stations. As I said I try to get the facts and then make a sound judgement. Fox doesn't give many facts, they give opinions. Yes most stations are a bit to the left or the right, but Fox is extreme. Fox acts as if the American people cannot think for themselves they have to be told what to think, do and say.
I believe maybe 50 percent of what I hear from CNN, NBC, CBS and maybe 2 % from Fox.
When did reporting the news mean giving opinions? With TV, internet, newspaper, radio we can educate ourselves with the facts. Unless we are a=holes like Pat Robertson who believes the poor people of Haiti deserve this horrible thing. :mad::mad:
I laugh at the dripple Fox puts on the air because like Pat Robertson I can't believe what I am hearing or that anyone would believe some of the things that are said.
Last week on Fox there were 4 people debating and one women (don't know who she was) said that the American people are NOT worried about health care they are worried about their jobs, HELLO HELLO, excuse me but many people get their health care through their work, no job no health care. I couldn't believe she said that, it was so shocking and stupid.
And yet millions of people watch Fox and millions think Pat Robertson is great, go figure, it's a mad, mad world out there.

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First you say you don't watch it, then you say you do watch it. If you do watch it, then you know that all news channels have their opinion shows. CNN has their round table, MSNBC has Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow. Chris Matthews has his Hardball show. However, they all also have news, Fox being no exception.

If you consider yourself to be liberal, then can you be liberal enough to accept w/out judgment that others have views that differ from yours? It doesn't mean that they're stupid or extreme, just that you're on opposite sides of an issue. We're all Americans who love our country and we basically want freedom and justice for all, correct? Just b/c Fox ran a story about Pat Robertson doesn't mean that they agree w/him any more than CNN agrees w/him and they ran the same story. Fox and Pat Robertson don't go together any more than CNN and Pat Robertson do. Robertson has his own show on a religion channel. That's called news, Monica, and not "dripple". (I assume you mean to say "drivel". I don't make it a habit of correcting others but I looked up the word "dripple" to be sure that I'm not misspeaking and it doesn't appear to be a word, unless it's a slang word w/which I'm unfamiliar.)

It seems that the OP and others dont understand the difference between news Reporting and news Commentary. I reccomend the books by long time liberal reporter and commentator Bernie Goldberg. I cant think of any major mainstream news outlet that strictly reports the news.

Its good to see Palin's haters still hating, she must be doing something right. As for making the most money I think LH covered the hypocracy on that comment for news commentators, but how much have Gore and the Clintons cashed in?

If the Juravinski Cancer Center and St. Peters Hospital think that $200K is a fair price for SP to help them raise money, wait... why is a government funded hospital having a fund raiser? Arent they fully funded by the government?

Kuhio, the haters dont care that she did the right thing by resigning, or that her family and children where attacked. She has alot of growing to do if she hopes to run for any office again.

If the GOP used her to get the women's vote, who's vote was the DNC after?

If yall would stop talking about her she would come back to AK, or dont you see that?