Obama proposes longer school day, shorter summer breaks

Somewhere in the world, right now, students are hard at work in school. With over 190 nations spanning the globe’s 24 time zones, students and their academic years come in a variety of forms. Here’s a sampling of the typical school year in 13 nations throughout the world.
Australia

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Students in Australia attend school for 200 days a year. Their school year lasts from late January to late November. Since Australia is in the southern hemisphere, it experiences summer while it’s winter in the northern hemisphere. Summer vacation for Australian students is from December to late January. Their school year is divided into four terms, with each term lasting 9 to 11 weeks. Students then have two weeks of vacation between each term. The typical school day is from 9 a.m. to 3:30 p.m., and lunch is eaten at school. Students are required to attend school for at least nine years. The average class size is eighteen students and there are about six computers per classroom.
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School grades in Australia are called years. Primary school is from year 1 to year 6; secondary school is from year 7 to year 12. A 6 year old begins in year one, while an 18 year old finishes school by year 12. From year one to year six, students spend about 12 hours a week working on math and English. Many schools integrate subjects, meaning they combine two or more academic subjects. For instance, say your class is studying coral reefs. A non-integrated approach would have students study coral reels only in science class. An integrated method incorporates math, by taking measurements, for example, and language arts. Students would then use that information to write a report about coral reefs.
Brazil

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Brazil, also found in the southern hemisphere, shares the same summer months as Australia. The school day in Brazil runs from 7 a.m. to noon, and students typically go home at noon to share lunch with their family. Lunch is the most important meal of the day. Most schools require students to wear a uniform.
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Math, geography, history, science, Portuguese, which is the national language of Brazil, and physical education are the main subjects studied by students in Brazil. Many schools can barely afford to teach those subjects, which means that courses like art and music are often left out in poorer areas. The average class size is 30 or more students. Most schools do not have a computer in the classrooms, or have only one or two computers for 30 students to share.

China

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Because China is in the northern hemisphere, its summer months are in line with Asia, Europe, and North America. The school year in China typically runs from the beginning of September to mid-July. Summer vacation is generally spent in summer classes or studying for entrance exams. The average school day runs from 7:30 a.m. to 5 p.m., with a two-hour lunch break. Formal education in China lasts for nine years. China provides all students with uniforms, but does not require they be worn.
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There are about 21 students in each classroom. All Chinese students study from textbooks that emphasize China’s unity, past and present accomplishments, and its future. Students in China also have great access to computer technology, with a computer to student ratio of 1:2. Chinese language and math skills are tested at the end of each year. Math is typically taught by drill, which means students are repeatedly taught the basics of math until they are able to demonstrate comprehension. Education in China since the turn of the 21st century has been undergoing reform, with curriculum being redesigned to emphasize group activities and other methods believed to foster creativity and innovation.
Costa Rica

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Costa Rica was one of the first nations in Central and South America to offer free public education. On average, there are about twenty-eight students in a classroom. Students are required to wear uniforms during the nine years of their formal education, from ages 6 to 15, and supply their own lunches and snacks. Students then begin college at age 15. The school year in Costa Rica runs from February to December. Students have vacation for about two months, from December to February, and a few weeks off in July.
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Costa Rica is one of the most literate nations in Central America with over 96% of students over age 15 being able to read. In addition to the regular subjects–Spanish, social studies, math, and science–all Costa Rican schools now teach students English and computer science.
France

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The school day in France typically runs from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., with a half day on Saturday, although students do not attend school on Wednesday or Sunday. Lunch is a two-hour break for public school students. Students usually attend school from ages 6 to 18. The average number of students per class is 23. Uniforms are not required, but religious dress of any kind is banned. The school year for this country in the northern hemisphere stretches from August to June, and is divided into four seven-week terms, with one to two weeks of vacation in between.
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Students in the primary grades, from age’s 6 to 11, learn basic skills in reading, writing, and math, as well as participate in exercises to develop observation, reasoning, imagination, and physical abilities. Older students study French, math, physical and natural sciences, foreign language, history and geography, economics, and civics.

Iran

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Iran is another nation in the northern hemisphere with a school year similar to European countries. Students in Iran go to school for 10 months a year, or about 200 active days, from September to June. The average number of students per classroom is 27. From ages 5 to 18, boys and girls are educated separately. Girls typically have female teachers, while boys are taught by men. Religious study in Iran is required. Men and women do study together at the university level–by 2006, over half of all university students in Iran were women.
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Beginning at age 5, all students must pass a yearly exam in order to move to the next grade level. Students in primary school learn about hygiene, basic math and science, reading, and study skills. Because many schools are in remote areas or do not have the money for such things as libraries, resourcefulness is necessary. For example, mobile libraries trundle across Iran to bring books to more than 4,000 children in 40 different schools. Each bus has two librarians and around 3,000 books. Students tend to get very excited when they hear the engine of the library bus coming their way.
Japan

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Most Japanese schools run on a trimester schedule. The academic year begins in April and ends the following March, with breaks for summer, winter and spring separating the three terms. Uniforms are required and there are extensive rules for hair styles, shoes, socks, skirt length, make-up, accessories, and more.
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In each classroom, the average number of students is 29 with five or six computers to share between them. Students in Japan study academic subjects, such as Japanese language, math, reading, social studies, music, and art, and they also receive moral education. Moral education involves teaching students about health and safety, living a disciplined life, courtesy, understanding and confidence, public manners, and environmental awareness.
Kenya

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The school year in this southern-hemisphere nation is divided into three terms, each 13 weeks long, with one-month breaks in between. School days are from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Uniforms are mandatory in government-run schools. Most classrooms have about thirty students in them.
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Many schools provide lunch. Because Kenya is experiencing severe economic and environmental hardships, some students save all or part of their lunch to share with their families. Students study the Kiswahili language, English, math, science, music, history, civics, and geography, and receive religious instruction.


Mexico

Mexico

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The school year in Mexico runs from September to June. Students go to school Monday through Friday, and have elective classes on Saturdays. Students are required to wear uniforms for primaria (elementary school) and secondaria (middle school). School days are divided into two sessions, one for the morning and one for the afternoon.
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In each classroom, there are about 30 students who must share three computers. Students learn Spanish, math, art, and physical education. Other subjects are integrated into courses called environmental knowledge. These include the natural sciences, history, geography, civics, reading, writing, and oral expression.
Nigeria

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The school year in Nigeria runs from January to December. The year is divided into three semesters with a month off in between each semester. Students must wear uniforms, as well as obey rules for hair, jewelry, and accessory restrictions.
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There are about 40 students in each classroom in Nigeria. There they will learn one of the three main languages (Hausa, Yoruba, or Ibo), math, English, social studies, health and physical education, religious instruction, agriculture, and home economics.
North Korea

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Students in North Korea must attend school for 11 years, beginning at age 5. Students must wear uniforms provided by the government, and many students receive room and board from their government.
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Students study music, art, math, the Korean language, social education. Social education includes studying about the former leader Kim Il Song, and “Communist Morality.” In later years they learn about the policies of the communist party. Social education also provides students with a controlled environment in which to learn so they are protected from “bad or unplanned influences.”

Russia

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The school year in Russia runs from the first of September to late May. Students attend class from 8:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. No uniforms are required; students are instead encouraged to dress warmly. Students remain together in the same class from grades one to ten. Each classroom has about 16 students.
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Tenth grade is the last year of mandatory education. Eleventh and 12th grades offer optional paths, either to vocational schools to learn trade skills or to continue to study for university entrance exams. Students in grades one to ten study Russian, math, reading, natural sciences, music, art, and physical education.
South Korea

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The school year in South Korea typically runs from March to February. The year is divided into two semesters (March to July and September to February). School days are from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., but many stay later into the evening. In addition, students help clean up their classroom before leaving. Most students remain in the same room while their teachers rotate throughout the day. Each room has about thirty students with ten computers for them to share.
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After 5 p.m. students have a short dinner at home, or eat at school, before study sessions or other activities begin in the evening. Students attend school Monday to Friday, with some Saturday classes scattered throughout the year. Their classes cover the Korean language, math, science, physical education, social studies, moral education, music, fine and practical arts. In third grade students begin receiving English instruction for two hours a week.

The average class size in China is nearer to 75 than 21:eek: the uniforms are NOT provided free and many country schools have sand trays instead of paper to write on! I do not know where you got this information but it is mostly propaganda and sadly not true:rolleyes:

I am not knocking you Marigold, but I know this from broad experience having taught here since 1992. I am at a technical college presently which has classes of 80 - so many that some have to sit on the floor as there are not enough desks let alone computers!

School from 8-5 is not bad? School from 8 to 6 (for me anyway) is more like it. An hour for homework, haven't we had enough school that day as it is? It takes me MUCH longer then a freakin' hour to do my homework most of the time. I've been up till 3 AM doing homework on Sunday nights. Maybe I did procrastinate a bit but it still would've taken me like 4-5 hours to complete. HW isn't my cup of tea, but I do it anyway, and I do all of it - especially when it's to be graded. That doesn't even begin to include studying. Studying for AP history alone takes me 2 to 3 hours every time I had a major test. It might not sound that bad to you guys, but then again you aren't students anymore.

This is coming from a high school junior.

Okay, guys, this proposal just isn't going to happen for a number of reasons.

1) Budget. More classroom hours=more pay for teachers. Their salaries are based on an expected number of hours in the classroom. Increase the hours, the pay increases.

a) Facilities budgets: Increase the time in school, increases the time the facilities are in use. In turn it increases the maintenance budget.

b) Transportation budgets: More days=more bus trips=more maintenance and fuel costs.

c) School meal budgets: self explanatory, but if the kids are going to be in school past 4 PM, plan on eating dinner there. Given the hour +/- bus trip to and from the school, the lunch would have to expand from just lunch to breakfast, lunch and dinner.

2) Increased strain on personnel: increase hours, decrease off time=poor performance, unless you increase the personnel proportionally with the time increase, which leads to a budget explosion.

3) Parents, like me, who would tell the school board to stuff it if they decided the kids were going to be in school for 9+ hours. Ain't happening. I've already had discussions with the school administration about their curriculum, I would have no issue discussing this in a school board meeting.



The story is old, hasn't been heard from since the original speech, and is really a non-starter.


Marigold, may I ask where you pulled that article from? It's overly rosy in its outlook, sounds like someone has been drinking the koolaide of a special interest group or 20. More hours in school won't fix anything. More days in school won't fix anything.

More involved parents and less intrusive school policies would work wonders. Get back to teaching academics, get the hell out of the business of teaching morals and social programs in school, and leave parenting to the parents. That's my job, not Society's.

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

Sports are great but not if the child cannot read or write, sports should never come before grades. That however is what it has come too. And that is one reason our kids are not doing as well as those in other countries.

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Get back to teaching academics, get the hell out of the business of teaching morals and social programs in school, and leave parenting to the parents. That's my job, not Society's.

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Agree TOTALLY with both of you!!


Sadly our schools here are so sports focused, that they've built a new track, olympic sized pool, and a new football field but kids are still having to share books and some of those books are so old the kid's parents names are written in them. If they so much as talk about charging more for sports, limiting the number of sports a child can play in one year, or cutting things back in general, the parents get in a huge uproar.:rolleyes:

In comparing my education to my husbands, he was taught ALOT more about history and historical figures than I was. In our school math was no longer a required class after 9th grade, my husband was required to take math all the way through H.S. Our school thought it was a wonderful idea to teach careers. The only thing they offered was white collar, high paying, desk job type careers and to work on the school paper you had to be an honor student, it wasn't an elective class.

I've also noticed children from other countries tend to be taught two languages from a very young age. Our schools won't even let you take the language classes until 9th or 10th grades.