Cutting living expenses...

At this point, with the price of gas where it is now, hubby and I are spending $600 a month just commuting. When we moved here 3 1/2 years ago, it was $250/$300 at the most. We're eating the bare minimum, neither of us get our hair done (Mine has not been cut in over a year), our only luxury is once a week we spend more than $5 on dinner. MY luxury is my blood pressure medication and my migraine medication - those are $55 a month.

I am looking to rehome Charlie and Jingle Belle, and Oreo too. No, I don't want to do it. I do want them to have the food and medical care they deserve in case something happens.

We can't sell our house. It's gone down $48,000 since we bought it. Thank you, housing market. Also, since we moved here, my husbands office has moved further away TWICE. His round trip drive is 105 miles a day. Mine is 90. However, if we carpool - which we do - it's 150.

Yes, we did this to ourselves - buying a house far from downtown Phoenix. We bought where we could afford to at the time. Never did we expect the housing market to crap out like it has.

Each night I go to bed shaking, just hoping something happens that is GOOD in life... money on the sidewalk, a long lost relative dies and leaves us in their will, something - anything.

I have to have the internet in order to go to school. Our basic cable is in our HOA fees. My water/sewer is $80+ a month - oh, and it's contaminated water. We can't drink it. Boiling it makes it worse. They recommend we don't even bathe in it...

I can't find an extra $10 to cut out, let alone $500.

Along the same lines, I cannot BELIEVE how expensive groceries are now! I used to pay $60 for a large grocery shopping that would last us about 2 weeks. For the same thing, it is now costing me $120+/- Unbelievable.

For example, to compare approximately one year ago until now:

Pasta: I used to pay $.33/pound. It now goes on sale for $1.00/pound
Half&Half: I used to pay $.79/pint. Now it is $1.69
Lettuce: Used to be $.99/head Now its $1.49/head
Milk: Used to be $1.99/gallon Now its 3.99 per gallon

I worry about the young single moms, the elderly, the people who already struggle to make ends meet. How in the world can we continue like this??? :(

Oh boy...wow...I don't drink or smoke; gee, the only area I could cut $$ is on gas for the car...I am doing that a bit by cutting down on outings to the city, unless it is for work (housecleaning).

I could also walk more in town...I used to do it all the time. Lazy now? I don't know what happened - though I use to work right in town so that part was easy.

I wish I could telecommute - work from home - but don't know if that would be feasible with my job.

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Originally Posted by Scooter's Mom

We can't sell our house. It's gone down $48,000 since we bought it. Thank you, housing market. Also, since we moved here, my husbands office has moved further away TWICE. His round trip drive is 105 miles a day. Mine is 90. However, if we carpool - which we do - it's 150.

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I hope, for your sake, that the housing market recovers in your area soon, and that you don't have to move. I love when "talking heads" say things like "cut $500 out of your monthly budget" when they have no idea what our monthly budgets even are, and where our money is being spent.

Would your husband's company agree to some sort of transportation pay, since they are the ones that moved the office, not you!

Like many others, that's just not feasible. :( I absolutely *MUST* have the internet. Starting here recently, it is the ONLY method that my school uses to get in to contact with people regarding anything including bills and such On top of that my husband will be doing at-home schooling and work here shortly. That is the only luxury we have. :(

I couldn't even imagine having a kid right now. o_o

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Originally Posted by kuhio98

Nobody's saying you should have to give them up. But, if it's a choice between feeding my kids/pets or entertainment, I'll choose to give up entertainment.

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Well, of course!

I'm already barely scraping by as it is, and I don't have rent or utilities to pay for... gas prices ALONE are already hitting me hard with the 60 mile rount-trip to school 5 days out of the week (sometimes seven). /sigh

It's depressing.

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Originally Posted by Karen

I hope, for your sake, that the housing market recovers in your area soon, and that you don't have to move. I love when "talking heads" say things like "cut $500 out of your monthly budget" when they have no idea what our monthly budgets even are, and where our money is being spent.

Would your husband's company agree to some sort of transportation pay, since they are the ones that moved the office, not you!

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Karen, unfortunately no. We've tried. We've also tried getting them to allow him to switch to either 4 10 hr shifts or work from home 1-2 days per week (It's possible, easily!) At the moment it is not possible.

My office would allow me to work 4 10-hr shifts, but with him not able to, it isn't feasible. :(

I see so much of people getting a bit of extra money/raise and they always seem to find something to spend it on, rather than banking it. For every time the income increases, so does the lifestyle. It's an easy trap to fall into and a hard one to fight. So many things today seem like necessities when they are in fact luxuries we convince ourselves we 'deserve'. Instead of working to make a living, we end up working to keep up with the lifestyle. All we really need in life is a roof over our heads, food enough to eat, clothes to cover ourselves with, and a means to achieve that. That brand new model ipod, or new release DVD, or whatnot are simply luxuries, desireable ones, but still luxuries.

Neither hubby or I are clothes horses (or trendy for that matter), I don't wear make up or do up my nails, we vary rarely drink, we don't do clubs, we don't subscribe to any magazines or get the newspaper (I get the news online for free and don't have to worry about disposing of the papers), I drive my car until it gets too expensive to fix (although I do buy brand new ones), we have a Christmas club account at the bank (putting small amounts each week in a savings acct.) and don't go over budget when we buy gifts. All of this we do out of choice, even if we had a million dollars we'd probably not change any of those things other than maybe up the Christmas club amount a bit.

http://www.stretcher.com/menu/topic.htm

That site has helped me cut my grocery bills in half without really sacrificing the occasional goodies. I mostly buy things on sale unless I just can't stock up on it or HAVE to have it now to make something else. I keep a stocked pantry and freezer. I also made a price book per suggestions in the site. I belong to a warehouse store that I go to about every 2-3 months, I only go to the grocery store once every 2 weeks.

My electric bill was cut by more than half when I started analizing appliances. I got rid of the aging dehumidifyer for the basement and just use a fan instead (not as effective but it's much cheaper), got a new fridge, and switched all my bulbs to compact florescents (sp?). The landlord did also replace almost all the windows with new energy efficient ones (of course the insulation in the house is almost nonexistent but still it was an improvement). I do have an A/C unit but it's an aging monster window one that was given to us for free. We only run that a few days a year when the temp is near 90, otherwise we use alot of fans.

I changed internet services, and dropped my home phone (cell's only now). That alone saved me $20 a month.

Hubby and I both live close to work so the vehicle doesn't wrack up a whole lot of miles compared to some. It is a gas hog so even errands are combined and planned out to minimize driving. I also combine errands with my mom to conserve fuel, I give her part for gas and she drives (her vehicle is somewhat better on fuel). No extra trips unless we can stop along the way for other things we need, otherwise whatever it is can just wait a while.

We don't rent movies unless it's for Christmas or Thanksgiving, the rest of the time we get them from the library. My books come from the used book store and when I'm done I take them back for a partial credit towards more books.

We have a garden, but we don't do canning, just some occasional freezing of corn/green beans, and the onions go in a bag for storage.

During the winter we rarely go anywhere, so the savings from gas gets put in an envelope for summer trips/vacations.

Our budget is figured by putting in certain amounts every week (regardless of how many weeks are in that month). Any extra accumulating stays put to give a cushion for short paychecks, higher utilities etc. Currently we have enough stocked away that we could easily survive for 2-3 months without changing our lifestyle one iota if BOTH of us were out of work. 4-5 months if only ONE of us was out of work. That's not counting our longer term CD's which ain't no fortune but it is growing. It's still not as much of a cushion as I'd like to have but it's a cushion nonetheless.

When the vehicle got paid off we took the money we were putting towards car payments and split it. Half went to savings and other utilities, the other half goes in the checking towards the down payment on the next car. Since we were used to making that payment anyways we didn't miss the money each paycheck. I also get discounts on multi policies and safe driving.

I have several credit cards (for different uses) but I only use them if I already have the money and pay them off in full every time.

I have cheap rent, get discounts for my cat's food/healthcare granted, that does help alot.


We certainly don't live a super frugal lifestyle though....
I own 7 cats
We pay $50 per month in cable (no movie channels or digital though)
The cell phones total $72 per month (huge minutes package)
We both smoke (I don't need any lectures)
We go to the local dirt racing track every weekend all summer long
We go on at least 3 vacations a year (tent camping and within 2-9 hrs driving distance)
We both have a horrible soda pop addiction
I'm a horrible electronics gadget person (I'm learning to curb that though)

However IF it was necessary for us to come up with an additional $500 a month it wouldn't be a huge stretch to come up with it without working additional hours. Granted we'd have to cut a few things back or out but certainly not all the luxuries. After all $500 a month is only $125 per week or $17 per day. A few less goodies at the grocery store, the cheaper seats at the racetrack or miss a few races now and again, no pizza once a month, no stopping at micky d's out of laziness every so often, and drink one less 2 liter of soda per week and it would be easy to come up with an additional $500.

Think of things this way (approximately)...

One $1.00 (cheap) 2 liter soda per week (or one value menu item at micky d's) = $52 per year

One pizza a month (about $20) = $240 per year

One video rental per week = $208 per year

I could go on but you get the idea, that's $500 per year by just foregoing one pizza with soda and video now and again.

A better way to think of it is this...

How many hours would I have to work to pay for this item/service?



Anyways I'm a natural born cheapskate, I'm not always frugal, nor do I live a simplistic lifestyle, but apparently compared to other people I know I'm a cheapie I guess.

Sorry for the mini novel.

$500 a month? Wow, the "experts" must live in a parallel universe to mine!
We're working on cutting $500 a year.

Be sure to check through your junk mail. Hubby followed up on one of the auto insurance offers & got us better coverage for $300 less a year.

We've made some changes - We almost never go out to eat anymore. We used to do that 2 or 3 times a week. Now we only go out to eat 3 or 4 times a month. We don't go out to movies much either, but we do have cable & internet. I use the internet for my work every day, so it stays.

We pretty much only drive if we have a specific reason/destination. No more "just for fun" trips. Fortunately hubby's work is only 4 miles away, and I work from home (love that 0 mile walk from the other room!) I do feel sorry for those who are stuck with long commutes. :(

I don't know how young families make it these days.

Here's a hint.

If things get tougher and you have to choose between entertainment and feeding the kids, Feed the kids by forcing them to perform skits and sing for their meals.:D

When we were kids we were forced to read and listen to the radio for fuin.;)

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

When we were kids we were forced to read and listen to the radio for fuin.;)

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And the library is free :)

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Originally Posted by Jessika

And the library is free :)

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When I was a kid, we were not allowed to buy books - as the house already had at least one full bookcase in every room, including the basement, attic and upstairs hallway ... but I had four library cards of my own by the time I was ten! That solved the cost and storage problem.

We are fortunate - our library is within walking distance and carries movies and music, too.

For those who want current releases, http://redbox.com has movies for $1 a day if they are in your area!

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Originally Posted by Catlady711

We both smoke (I don't need any lectures)

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No lecture, but I do think you should figure out and list what those cigarettes are costing you....just to be fair here.

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Originally Posted by Rachel

No lecture, but I do think you should figure out and list what those cigarettes are costing you....just to be fair here.

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I don't smoke but my vice is Cherry Coke... 2 - 3 cans a day... one 12 pack lasts me between 4 and six days, at $3.50 a case, that's roughly $17.50 - $26.50 a month, sometimes more. Which isn't much when you think about it but yearly that's anywhere from $210 - $318, which is easily a car and/or truck payment for me lol