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Let me get this straight........
If I go into a store for a couple minutes to get, for instance, a gallon of milk, and leave Lady in the truck, which has had the A/C running, and is fairly cool, you feel that it is alright to vandalize my truck?
Sorry, I'd press charges in a heartbeat.
I wouldn't vandalize your truck however you are taking a chance that what you are doing could jeopardize the health of your dog and is just a stupid thing to do. In heat it is best to take the dog home and then go out of the gallon of milk later. If you truly care about your pet this is what you would do.
In 2003, a police dog in Tx died after the AC in the patrol car shut down and began blowing hot air. The air system's compressor kicked off because the engine got too hot. Many cars, including modern models with computerized functions, are prone to the same problem. In August 2004, a NC couple lost 2 of their beloved dogs, and nearly lost their 3rd dog as a result of a similar failure. They had left bowls of water and ice in the car, and the AC on, during their shopping trip of less than 30 minutes.
I got the above information from an article on a website at http://www.paw-rescue.org/paw/pettip...ip_Hotcars.php
I am going to court tomorrow afternoon here in State College as a witness because a woman left her dog in the car in order to eat dinner at Applebees. It was 80 degrees outside and the windows were only cracked about a 1/4 of an inch. There was water in the car but the schnauzer was in distress. I located her in the restaurant and explained to her why she had to go out and deal with her dog NOW. She refused so I called the police. They were there in 10 minutes and hauled her out of the restaurant to deal with the situation. They "arrested" her which is basically a summery offense or ticket. She pled (sp?)not guilty so I was subpeoned and I appear in court at 2:30 tomorrow afternoon. I can't wait. I hope she shows up since she had MD plates on the car.
So if you care about your pets at all you either leave them at home when it is over 65 degrees or have someone else with you to stay with the pet in the car while you get your milk. Or you risk the wrath of people who do care for your dog more than you do. Period. End of story. No if ands or buts about it.
If you would like some information about how the temp in a car ramps up in the heat check out this one from GM
http://ggweather.com/heat/
You'd press charges because someone may have just saved the life of your pet?? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
IMO, to call that vandalism is going a bit far, it's more like being heroic.
If I ever had a major brain fart and left my dogs in a hot car I'd appreciate that a human with a brain and a big heart for animals came along and got my dogs out of the car and saved their lives.
(then that person could slap me upside the head a few times.) :o
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Originally Posted by Lady's Human
I think Brody's Mum is talking about people leaving their vehicles with their pet in them without A/C, just leaving the windows open a crack.
I am sure most of us have gone in a store when a dog was sitting in a parked car, no A/C and the dog still be sitting there when you come back out quite some time later.
I myself have left my dog in the car just to grab a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread....but my car is always left running and the A/C cranked up. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE in circumstances!!
EDIT: LET ME CLARIFY, NOT RUNNING IN A GROCIERY STORE, JUST PULLING UP IN FRONT OF THE GAS STATION AND RUNNING IN FOR MILK OR BREAD. THE ONLY REASON WAS BECAUSE HE WAS ALREADY WITH ME IN THE CAR ON THOSE TWO OCCASIONS. I AGREE LEAVING THEM IN THE CAR WITH A/C CAN BE JUST AS DANGEROUS SUCH AS ABOVE WITH THE K-9 DOGS. I WOULD NEVER TAKE ANY OF MY DOGS TO GO "SHOPPING" IF THEY COULD NOT COME IN TOO.
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Originally Posted by pitc9
I second that...matter of fact I would probably slap myself when they were done for being so STUPID.
Excuse me. But are you people not reading what I posted about leaving a dog in the car with the AC on? Not a great idea either. Especially someplace like Florida.
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Originally Posted by Denyce
You're missing my point. I park my truck, and go into a store. You don't see me. All you see is a dog sitting in a truck. I go in, get XYZ in literally 3-4 minutes, and then come out (entirely possible).
In that time, you decide that the dog has been sitting in a hot truck in a parking lot for a long time, and decide to stick something on the windshield. I am going to be livid.
You have now created an obstruction on my windshield, which I legally cannot drive with. I now have to try to remove the sticker before driving anywhere. That isn't going to happen. I'm going to call the police, and have it investigated as vandalism.
See a dog in a hot car? Call animal control, the police, whoever handles such situations in your locale. Taking the law into your own hands (unless the animal is blatantly in distress, in which case I'm going to call the police and inform them what I'm doing and why I'm doing it) is foolish.
Over here vandalism would be the least of your worries. It's illegal to leave dogs in cars in the UK and you can get fined quite heftily. I think in many parts of the US, it's illegal too, but correct me if I'm wrong on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
I agree with you that sometimes it affects those who had no intention of leaving them for long, but we have to be safe rather than sorry.
you are underestimating vandalism. It is illegal as well and you can be prosecuted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Z
I aggree with Lady's human. If you mean well and you are really concern with the dog inside the car and you believe that it could be in danger then call the dog warden/rspca/police/other authorities. No need to take the law in your own hands.
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Originally Posted by pitc9
I agree completely. Anybody dumb enough to leave an animal alone in a
running car, deserves to have the cops come and talk to them about being
more responsible. (assuming the A/C is on)
I would definately call the police anytime I found a dog in a closed car
in hot weather.
The Wal-Mart I shop most frequently has shoppers who will leave their dog in the car. Unfortunately it is a stone's throw from Kohl's in the same shopping center, so the person might be in either one. The Petsmart I go to has big signs that say, Please don't leave your pet in the car, leashed pets welcome. Once I was at the supermarket on a day like today and there was a dog in a car, so I just pulled my car up opposite that one and waited till the driver came out. I didn't say anything to the driver though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Z
True. But I just think that it would be a little OTT to create a huge hullabaloo over a window sticker. Unless this thing measures the size of a windscreen and has extra strong glue, then it's not really too much bother to peel it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by vinjashira
Lots of people put flyers under the windscreen wipers of parked vehicles, perhaps it would be better to do that rather than make a sticker? I'm pretty sure that isn't illegal or businesses would be wary of doing it.
I was downtown ealier today and I parked in the garage. As I was walking back I noticed in the back of a jeep there were 4 chihuahuas in the back NO water NO food and the windows shut up tighter then tight. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: So I called my local police and waited until they showed up they seized the dogs and then waited until the owner showed up slapped them witha 400 dollar fine (100 for each dog) . Needless to say people shouldn't JUST call in the summer I also report and call about it in the winter months espically here in NH it gets freezing. Like my local PD told me THERE IS NO CURE FOR STUPID :rolleyes:
For starters, most retail outlets have policies against leafleting in their parking lots. (Wal-Mart, Sears, etc. will not allow any type of solicitation on their properties) I'm sure they would feel no different about someone putting stickers on windshields.
The OP was talking specifically about finding a sticker which would be hard to remove. While a leaflet under my wiper arm would merely annoy me (and immediately get thrown in the trash), a sticker would irritate me to no end, as I would legally have to remove it before driving. Any obstruction to forward vision is a safety violation. This being the case, I would be forced to call the police and file a complaint.
Leaving an animal in a car is not against the law in New York, but animal cruelty is. I prefer laws remain that way. Why? If you need to pick up a quick item on the way home from the vet's office, or another instance where an animal would be in the car with you, no problem. No harm is going to come to Lady in the 2-3 minutes it takes me to go into the supermarket and grab a gallon of milk. If, however, an animal is left in a car long enough to cause distress, it would be animal cruelty or neglect.
I have many issues with precision targeted laws in general, but that's another discussion.