Thinking Of Selling Daisy

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Originally Posted by Pam

I wasn't saying that you didn't. I was only explaining why I responded the way I did (i.e., didn't suggest training). *sigh*

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I just wasn't sure why you quoted me with a quote from him - as if I was wrong to suggest training. But, I understand now, although I see nothing wrong with your original post. We're all going to have differing opinions on the subject, obviously.

Why the sigh? :confused:



Again, Tim, I strongly suggest you speak with her breeder. I'm not sure what type of breeder she came from, however, a responsible breeder will take back dogs and require that you return them if needed to rehome.

I have a feeling our suggestions weren't what he wanted to hear. I'm afraid her brother in law will breed her since he's got a male. You know, it's funny how people come here for advice and then don't even listen. Someone else recently did the same thing.

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Originally Posted by dukedogsmom

I have a feeling our suggestions weren't what he wanted to hear. I'm afraid her brother in law will breed her since he's got a male.

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Val, That was my exact first thought. Why else would he pay $600 for her, unless he could "recoup" the cost?

I am trying to be understanding about the situation. I understand there are situations where dogs need to be rehomed, and I do think this is one of them, becuase it will be best for the dog. But I also think it should be handled by either the breeder or a boxer rescue. Maybe I am jumping to conclusions and the BIL only has the best of intentions. If that is the case, then I am wrong and I apoligize. I would just hate to see her sold as a brood bitch.

As for no dogs now or ever in the house becuase of the kids? I just don't get that. Where would some of our PT children be with our their best buds? But that is a whole nother topic.

Rehoming her sounds like the best idea. But, I'm confused. You said you would never have an inside dog. Which is fine, I know a few people who feel that way. It's a lifestyle and a mentality that I find outdated, but to each his own. As long as the dog is able to be with people A LOT and is given proper shelter and food, it's better than a lot of situations where the dog is kept inside and ignored. Still not the best in my opinion, but again, to each his own. Daisy doesn't sound neglected, just completely misunderstood. And, in the wrong hands. I would suggest going through a rescue organization, though, as has already been mentioned.

Back to my confusion. You stated you would never have an inside dog. But, then you stated a couple posts later that Daisy isn't allowed inside because of your children. And, I'm assuming that's because she's too large and too rambunctious. Which makes sense, although it's something that should have been considered prior to choosing a large, active breed. Hind sight is 20/20, of course. :) If you're never going to have a dog inside, that's one thing. I wouldn't take $5000 for a dog I thought was going to spend the rest of his life outside of the house. Had you not said "But im pretty aggrovated because i really dont want to let her go and the reason she cant come in is because of my 2 kids", I would not be confused. If it's just because of the children, why would you not consider getting a smaller, more manageable dog next time? Or just wait til your children are older? They're not always going to be small and able to be run over by a playful puppy.

As for outside dogs being untrainable, I didn't read the comment suggesting that I guess, but maybe they just meant that it was *more difficult* to train a dog that lives it's life outside? My opinion on that is that it is not necessarily harder to train a dog to sit and stay outside, but it is more difficult for a dog to understand it's place in the pack when it's rare that it's even part of the pack. Does that make any sense? You do add a level of difficulty to the training when a dog is never really let in, though, I will agree with that.

I do hope you rehome her. I also hope you go through a rescue organization. Good luck!

a quote from Tim a while back...

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TO B HONEST ONE OF THE REASONS I BOUGHT HER IS BECAUSE I WORK 3rd SHIFT IN THE COAL MINES, AND FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE R SCARED TO DEATH OF BOXERS AROUND HERE ANYWAY.

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I'd suggest rehoming her. Then instead of ever getting another dog, install an alarm system and buy a gun (careful with the kids) and your family will be safe when you are at work. You could have done that with the money you 'wasted' on Daisy. My heart goes out to Daisy. :(

http://www.ckbr.org/

http://www.bluegrassboxerrescue.org/

http://adopt-a-boxer.1-800-save-a-pet.com/


Here are a few links to help this animal, I won't even go into my personal feelings on this matter, as to do so would make your ears melt. I will say that is people like you that have a throw away dissasociative attitude towards companion animals, that make it possible for me to blessed with fostering and rehoming and getting to know so many animals that are much more amazing and smart than the owners that had them. So I guess I should thank you.

As for your kids and dogs in the house, I had kids, and rotties , and as all babies do the pups got knocked over and the babies did too. Everyone survived amongst laughter and tears for the boo boos. Too bad that you cannot find the same love for your dog, that she has has for you.

Hopefully, you will put aside your wallet and make the decisions that are best for the animal, at least once in this saga.

Just my thoughts

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/f15456a9.jpg

See that little girl in the midst of all the dogs. That is my granddaughter Jasmine when she was about 20 months old. See the dogs - 5 are mine, 3 are hers and 3 are Amy's and one is my boss's. Dogs and little kids - taught properly they will get along fine. Included in that mix, is a Jack Rusell, 3 Dalmation mixes and a Great Dane. All can be a little hyper and yes, she has taken a fall once or twice but she loves each and every one of them - and I think each of them love her. Now she has a little brother and he too is being brought up as part of the group.

Jasmine lived with us for about 6months starting when she was 14 months old. At that time we had 6 dogs. Her dalmation, great dane and terrier mix made nine. When she heard them running down the hall, she turned toward a wall, grabbed ahold of whatever she could and let them run by her. I can't imagine what her life would be like without living with dogs!

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Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

http://www.ckbr.org/

http://www.bluegrassboxerrescue.org/

http://adopt-a-boxer.1-800-save-a-pet.com/


Here are a few links to help this animal, I won't even go into my personal feelings on this matter, as to do so would make your ears melt. I will say that is people like you that have a throw away dissasociative attitude towards companion animals, that make it possible for me to blessed with fostering and rehoming and getting to know so many animals that are much more amazing and smart than the owners that had them. So I guess I should thank you.

As for your kids and dogs in the house, I had kids, and rotties , and as all babies do the pups got knocked over and the babies did too. Everyone survived amongst laughter and tears for the boo boos. Too bad that you cannot find the same love for your dog, that she has has for you.

Hopefully, you will put aside your wallet and make the decisions that are best for the animal, at least once in this saga.

Just my thoughts

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Im affraid Tim may take this the wrong way...BUT...i couldnt agree more with you! I understand what the dog was bought for, to protect, which im sure if given the chance she could protect with the best confidence...if she knew she was needed!
You said she wasnt allowed in the front yard where burgalars or theifs may wonder by...well with her locked in the back yard on a chain or in a inclosure, she really isnt doing her job very well. A dog for protection really needs to protect their own...inside! so they can check on ur kids, check on ur wife and be able to protect them in their time of need. A backyard really isnt protecting anyone! Just protecting your kids from coming in contact with her.
I personally dont care when my dogs push over a child...kids fall, they get cuts and bruises and they learn from them(hopefully) and move on. It's not life or death if they get knocked over unless onto a sharp object or something.
It's just control and training. I really dont think daisy could be anymore useless in the situation she is in with you. Im sorry Tim, but she isnt doing what you bought her to do, and she isnt getting the attention that she needs, so i would first go to the breeder, then def. give her to a boxer rescue.
Im also affraid your brother in law will just breed her.
Sorry if thats rude but i feel it to be the truth!

I'd rehome her. I think she'd be happier with your BIL.

Tim, do you have another dog? I thought you had a terrier of some sort. Or am I thinking of somebody else?

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by coco-bean

Im also affraid your brother in law will just breed her.
Sorry if thats rude but i feel it to be the truth!

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Whoa Tim, if she's not fixed, I would bring her to a Boxer Rescue organization. Forget the BIL.

I suggest rehoming her, and never getting another dog. Boxers are extremly hyper, they need a LOT of exersize and a LOT of training, I dont know how you can justify saying your dog is to hyper so you stuck her in a smaller kennel, and she is still to darn hyper..??? that just makes absolutly zero sence to me, obviously she is going to be getting out she's bored, she needs mental and physical stimulation. I dont suggest selling her to you brother in law as it sounds liike he intends to breed her. I suggest sending her to a boxer rescue. it seems to me the onl reason you really want a dog is to know you have one there so I siggest you head to the nearest toy store, buy one of those life sized dog stuffies, stick it in the kennel, wala you will have the assurence that you have a dog, it wont need attention, training or human interaction, and it wont jump on your kids.

Well, I don't see why you posted about this at all. What do you want from
us here at PT? Do you wanted to be reassured you are doing the right thing?
I really would like to know what we can do, other than the advice already
given re: training, making Daisy a real part of the family from the very start
would have solved many of the problems you are now having with her.

Like I said, you have your own opinions about the proper way to raise a
dog, and now are living with the consequences of your choices. What do
you want to hear from any of us?

If you do rehome Daisy, please, please contact a Boxer Rescue group. They
are full of people who know & love the breed.

Tim, not sure you really want advice but having 2 kids here's mine.

The choices you make toward your animals will shape your childrens perception on what is right and what is wrong. Treating your dog with respect and what is in her best interest will be a valuable lesson to your children. I truly believe that children that are taught to respect animals and treat them as part of the family grow up to be better humans.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by caseysmom

Tim, not sure you really want advice but having 2 kids here's mine.

The choices you make toward your animals will shape your childrens perception on what is right and what is wrong. Treating your dog with respect and what is in her best interest will be a valuable lesson to your children. I truly believe that children that are taught to respect animals and treat them as part of the family grow up to be better humans.

Just my 2 cents.

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Amen sister!!

I, myself who has an outside dog as my mother refers to her, understand the outside dog situation, but if you had two small kids and you adopted a hyper breed like the Boxer, you should have known that it could be a risk to the kids.