I'd say it was the owners fault. They had a dog out in public knowing that she doesn't like certain men. I would have steered clear of any oncoming people.
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I'd say it was the owners fault. They had a dog out in public knowing that she doesn't like certain men. I would have steered clear of any oncoming people.
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Originally Posted by applesmom
Both of you are correct, the vet is required to maintain records AND the owners are entitled to copies of those records. If it's true the vet loses records frequently then he may be held liable for failure to maintain and provide records and can be reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
However not knowing the whole situation it is possible for people to 'vet hop' so often they don't remember where shots were given at or even where they had their appts at which would make getting records difficult. We get this about once a week.
Just had this happen today, a lady comes in with a cat, insists she has an appt with us for 2:30 (we don't have ANY appts scheduled from 2-3 today), then lady thinks 'maybe' it might have been with the hospital down the road from us (our names aren't even close). Nope we called them they never heard of her and didn't have anyone with a similar pet scheduled at all that day. Lady keeps insisting she has an appt with one of us at 2:30. We finally just sent her off to the other place to argue with them for a while since she was now convinced her appt was with the other hosp.
There's also a possibility of having vaccinations done at one of those low cost 'parking lot clinics' where they do a 1-2 day vaccination clinic with a local vet. If a person doesn't keep the records for themselves, it might be difficult to track down which vet was the one doing the shots that day.
Just some thoughts.
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Originally Posted by borzoimom
She has a limit of two animals and she has two dogs, so it doesn't matter
what the guy says.
It does here- since he was bitten the house is checked. If they determine the other dog is aggressive as well, this is going to be trouble- big time!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
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Originally Posted by borzoimom
Well, she isn't there so it doesn't matter, right?
I am shocked that she hasnt kept her OWN vet records on her animals. I make copies of EVEYTHING Mister gets done at the vet. Also on another note when they get their rabies shot dont they get a tag? Mister does along with his other tags. I keep them with my jeep key where they are too big for his neck. ( :p ) Point being even if the vet "lost" the records she should have her own copies at home.
Since two of mine are therapy dogs- they have to have a health certificate that records their shot record. I also carry with me to dog shows a copy of their records, and even all 4 have a folder in my van of the records.
Can everyone please STOP bickering, I was interested in reading the responses-not an argument. :o
Ah, I remember this happening to me at the end of the summer. A stupid dippy woman let her toddler run up to our Jess and he grabbed her head and stuck his face right up to hers only to get himself snapped at. She called the police on me.
Our Jess was on a lead when it happened so she wasn't classed as being out of control in a public place. When the police came...and it was like 3 weeks later when they did, one of them went out back to see the dogs and saw for himself how friendly they usually are. He had BCs himself and admitted that his would have bitten the kid had it done the same to them too.
Both of the officers agreed that it should have been her kept better control of her child.
She tried to insist I put muzzles on the dogs but there was nothing she could do about it because Jess couldn't be proved as dangerous. She had never snapped at anyone before and she was nearly 13 years old.
I told her to get stuffed and told her she was completely stupid for allowing a toddler to run up and grab a strange dog and that nearly any dog would have snapped at him or even worse...not just our Jess. Everyone I told about it agreed with me and called her a few choice names in the process. Most people on our street supported me...even making sarcastic jokes out loud about me not having muzzles on my vicious dogs as I walked down the street, haha.
Obviously, this is in the UK but I think things are similar as they are in various parts of the states. We don't have to worry about the rabies thing here like in the States though.
Still, had our Jess not been on the lead, things could have been a whole lot different.
When I asked the officer what to do if anymore dippy mothers allowed their kids to run up, he told me to warn them to keep the children away and if they still allowed them, I had this in my defence if anything happened.
In the end, many dogs who bite would never run up and bite a person, they'd only do it if the person tried to touch them or did something that frightened them which means they aren't REALLY dangerous and any bites can be avoided if people leave them alone. Still humans being as stupid as they are sometimes...and they'll never take responsibility for their own actions, it has to be somebody elses fault.
Still, the law doesn't see things this way. Whenever some poor kids gets mauled by a dog and the paper gets hold of the story, the anti-canine feeling in society grows and there are people who want a whole list of breeds banning such as rotties, staffies, GSDs etc....people who obviously know nothing about dogs and think that a dog should act like a stuffed toy and allow anything to be done to it just to accommodate stupid humans who have no common sense.
The stories in the paper about these mauled kids always fail to mention what happened directly before the attack. They'd never mention that the kid might have stabbed the dog in the eye with a pen or trodden on it's paw or grabbed it's head and stuck their eyes right up to the dogs and made a growling noise.....no, the reader is given the impression that the dog just decided to maul and kill the child for absolutely no reason at all other than for the sheer pleasure of it.
Yes, it's all very annoying for the dog owner but it is the law that we have to abide by.
Good luck with sorting all this out.
I do agree that trying to maintain good relations with the guy that got bitten is a better bet....even if he was daft for trying to touch a strange dog without asking first.
Did anyone read my reply??? Does anyone agree with me?
" I do agree that trying to maintain good relations with the guy that got bitten is a better bet....even if he was daft for trying to touch a strange dog without asking first"
Exactly- the laws are on his side.
A tag isn't proof enough for the rabies vaccine. They need to have the manufacturers name, lot number, everything-which as on the rabies certificate. Yes, she should have the rabies certificate hanging around somewhere-although I hate to say it, maybe the dogs in fact do not have their shots, and she's just trying to find her way around it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.chiwawa
As I also stated I have a copy of my dogs FULL vet record not just his tags. And I think your right I'm not 100% convinced the dogs are vacinated either. :rolleyes:
I agree. A tag is usually not enough proof if the skin is broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by areias
It's probably because, well, you can interchange tags lol...if you have rabies on only one dog, but have two dogs, if you bring dog #2 out you could potentially put dog #1's collar and tag on and be "fine". They also need to make sure there is nothing wrong with that particular vaccine-if 100 dogs are vaccinated with Ft. Dodge's rabies vaccine, lot # 10A044, and 70 of those dogs have bit someone-that's the problem! Or if 5 dogs come up with rabies and they have been given that lot # vaccine-well, there is also something wrong with the vaccine. I hope you get why I'm saying...