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Originally Posted by sparks19
A. women are being sent as well and...
B. I think it matters very much if you are the one doing the dying....
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Originally Posted by sparks19
A. women are being sent as well and...
B. I think it matters very much if you are the one doing the dying....
I didn't mean just men lol don't be so literal :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
and what I meant is.... 1 death is just as bad as 2 deaths and 10 deaths or 1000 deaths.... it is all devestating and someone is always losing someone they love. death is death and it's always sad to lose anyone.
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Originally Posted by sparks19
Yes, you sound all broken up about it too. Geeze.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
yes cause over the computer you can REALLY hear what I sound like or what I am thinking
I myself have never been in the presence of war or horrific death. but my husband has many times and I see the effects it has had on him. of course none of these were in Iraq. this was before that ever started. I also see how his father still struggles with the deaths he witnessed in vietnam. Death is always tragic no matter if it is one person or thousands and how it affects the people still living.
don't act like you know how I am feeling or what I am thinking just by some stupid words on a computer screen.
In too deep...yes we are...however, it doesn't appear that the hole is getting any less deep...just the opposite. Mike is a Desert Storm vet and even HE now thinks we need to get out of there. We are not making any sort of progress anymore.
And as far as every president sending people into harm's way...tis true, however, there appears to be no sort of organized plan by this imbecile and his cronies. Yes, Bill did send troops...but, not to the scale of this. And those troops are still there too...how soon we forget the troops in harm's way in Bosnia, Korea, Afghanistan, etc...
I did not vote because like Karen, I must admit that I am not sufficiently knowledgeable enough on the subject to "really" know what the answer is. Is it more troops??? If we are going to send them, then I hope it is. But I really can't say... by saying that I do not have enough information, I do not mean that I haven't been following the news. What I mean is that I do not know the day to day details and the real situation on the ground and in the field - the sort of information that the President and his advisors have access to.
What I do know that if he feels that this is now the answer, then he was very slow on the draw and "really should not have been telling the American people" all the way up to the eve of the past election, that "everything was going well and that we were making great progress". Based on that obvious lie, I am reluctant to trust his assessment and subsequent future plans.
I wish the troops luck and Godspeed.
After biting my tongue for a minute..
Yep, it's easy for me and idiots like baba boxer - I again apologize for the state of Cah lee fuh nee ah and for being part of the AHs that have unleashed that biatch on the world- I do not have kids too old or too young to send to their deaths. That should make my opinion as valid as hers.
My vote?
Let's pull out-Militarius Interuptus :confused: :eek: :( and let the rest of he world know that we can't finish a job that we started.
Did you notice that most of the propaganda from the terrorists sounds suspiciously like the Left talking points?
Run away.....and give them a chance to mass their forces at the gate.
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All the AHs in congress (or most of them) all wanted more troops to be sent out to Iraq, now they don't want anything to do with the escalation.
And you have "those people" like Baba Boxer and her slimy ilk who only serve to inflame the topic by continuing with their name calling and disrespect for their fellow politicos.
I think womem are more apt to follow the direction of the winds of opinion because a dress and bikini underwear give you a better idea as to which way you need to face....
And if someone has a fire burning downwind you don't get smoke blown up the canyon.
Had we sent TOO many troops in the first place we wouldn't be giving ourselves rectal exams in 2007....now, let's turn our heads and cough...to see if we have the cojones to finish the job-instead of biatching about why it hasn't been completed yet.
Love you all!
The problem is....no one seems to know any more what the job is that we started....or how we will know if it is ever finished....Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
I would like to know what the job was in the first place. I just never knew why we were over there!
Willie :)
I voted "yes", that I agree with more soldiers. But I think if we are going to stay in Iraq, it is going to take a heck of a lot more than 20000 additional soldiers to the do the job, and do it quickly, and I think that we either need to see the Iraqi soldiers take charge, with our support, or start dropping bombs (said with my tongue in cheek........). I think the absolute worst thing that this country could do is retreat from Iraq before the war is won. Of course, I will also admit that I would not want a child of mine, or my husband or myself to be there. That is pretty damned selfish of me, isn't it?? The thing that concerns me most is that I don't know how the people of Iraq feel.....did they want intervention or were they resigned to the life they had under Saddam. Are they convicted? Do they want justice and democracy in their country? I just don't know. This is a confusing issue and it disturbs me that we went there to start with, without feeling comfortable with our chances of a quick in and quick out, as it happened in the early 90's.
I keep sending it to my Lord in prayer. I don't know what else to do.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Like the old saying goes,
If I have to explain it, no one will understand. :eek:
In other words...you haven't a clue!Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Sending 20,000 more troops will cost an addtional 5.6 billion. The U.S. govt. just seems to think there is a bottomless piggy bank here. Everyone I know is struggling financially. The economy is NOT good. I think this war is stupid. :mad:
One of our senators from Indiana, Evan Bayh, along with Hillary and a representative from NY are in Iraq this weekend to see how serious the top Iraqi officials are about trying to fix their country. Should be interesting!!
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Originally Posted by mugsy
If you want to read something really interesting about the situation..."Imperial Life in the Emerald City" by Rajiv Chandrasekaran......