Scholarship For Whites Only

Good for them! I hope someone does take advantage of the scholarship. I also think that basing these on race or gender is ridiculous. they talk about "average" but individual wealth isn't based on race or gender. Individual poverty isn't based on race or gender. And to say that it's "leveling the playing field" is biased - it's only leveled for a few selected people if they are the designated heritage or gender. Due to the atmosphere of "political correctness" in America today, you are singled out for more limitations and exclusions if you are a white male than anyone else. What's "fair" about that?

I think there was a time when minorities needed an edge in securing
a college diploma, and a rightful place in the job market,but that was fifty
or sixty years ago.There are now federal & state laws which ban any type
of segregation or separate but equal opportunies at school or work. I do
not feel it's right to maintain quotas or preferencial treatment for anyone
based on race only.

This makes me think of the different "diversity groups" we have at work. IMO they just point out our differences. I am tempted to start a Northern European Heritage focus group, but I think there are only about seven people of NOrthern European descent where I work! :p

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Originally Posted by JenBKR

What is a bursary? Maybe things are done different here.....most, if not all, scholarships have to be applied for. You usually have to send in an essay also (well not always, but sometimes).

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Perhaps things are different here. I recognise the word 'scholarship' to mean an award that has been won on academic or sporting achievements in some kind of examination. A bursary, to me, is when a potential student applies or appeals for lower school fees due to the income their parents receive and based on the fact that they are intelligent enough to excel for the school. Thanks anyway for clearing that up, JenBKR :D

I am caucasian, and female, living in the midwest. While I don't think Affirmative Action really works, I do not think that there is equality in the races, genders, ethnicities, either. I do not believe that non-caucasians are given the same chance/opportunity as caucasians, and while I don't know what the answer to this problem is, I can't pretend that I don't see the problem, either.

I see discrimination all the time. I hear it from clients, I see it in the courts, and I read about it in the news. I suppose one could simply suppose that all those people that claim it happens are simply lying, but, I don't think that is the case. While I, personally, haven't felt discriminated upon (harrassed, yes, discriminated upon, no), I have witnessed it personally, with several dear friends. It exists.

I don't think that a Whites Only Scholarship is appropriate, nor is it funny. It is sad. I don't think Caucasians need any more advantages then most of us are already given, simply for the colour of our skin.

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

I am caucasian, and female, living in the midwest. While I don't think Affirmative Action really works, I do not think that there is equality in the races, genders, ethnicities, either. I do not believe that non-caucasians are given the same chance/opportunity as caucasians, and while I don't know what the answer to this problem is, I can't pretend that I don't see the problem, either.

I see discrimination all the time. I hear it from clients, I see it in the courts, and I read about it in the news. I suppose one could simply suppose that all those people that claim it happens are simply lying, but, I don't think that is the case. While I, personally, haven't felt discriminated upon (harrassed, yes, discriminated upon, no), I have witnessed it personally, with several dear friends. It exists.

I don't think that a Whites Only Scholarship is appropriate, nor is it funny. It is sad. I don't think Caucasians need any more advantages then most of us are already given, simply for the colour of our skin.

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why is it onlly discrimination when White people do it?

Why isn't it discrimination when people of colour call us crackers.... or honkey...or make fun of the way we "act". Why is it funny then? Seems for black comedians it is a career.... making fun of white people. If a white person were to make fun of the way they walk, talk, act then we would be labelled racists? Why is it different?

While I agree there are still many whites out there that are racist I believe there are just as many people of other nationalities that are the same way. this is a two way street and I don't think in this day and age that we have any advantage over anyone.

Equal opportunity employment, race specific scholarships etc etc. there are PLENTY of people that are not Caucasian that made it through life, went to college, got a great job, without these race specific advantages.

If other races want to be treated as equals then they should be equals. Pointing out their differences and giving them advantages over others does not do that, it only singles them out even more.

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Originally Posted by sparks19

why is it onlly discrimination when White people do it?

Why isn't it discrimination when people of colour call us crackers.... or honkey...or make fun of the way we "act". Why is it funny then? Seems for black comedians it is a career.... making fun of white people. If a white person were to make fun of the way they walk, talk, act then we would be labelled racists? Why is it different?

While I agree there are still many whites out there that are racist I believe there are just as many people of other nationalities that are the same way. this is a two way street and I don't think in this day and age that we have any advantage over anyone.

Equal opportunity employment, race specific scholarships etc etc. there are PLENTY of people that are not Caucasian that made it through life, went to college, got a great job, without these race specific advantages.

If other races want to be treated as equals then they should be equals. Pointing out their differences and giving them advantages over others does not do that, it only singles them out even more.

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Excellent post. I agree.

I didn't want to get involved in this, but economic and sociological studies show that non-whites and females are still at a major disadvantage in our country. I've got no problem with scholarships for them. And while I believe that people have every right to make a scholarship for whites, I don't believe they are sending a good message. Furthermore I think many of the comments made by pters on this thread are dissappointingly ignorant and unfortunately they reflect all to well the attitudes of white christian americans.

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Furthermore I think many of the comments made by pters on this thread are dissappointingly ignorant and unfortunately they reflect all to well the attitudes of white christian americans.

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Since when did CHristianity have anything to do with it?

Even the Army in it's bureaucratic morass has done away with set-asides for minorities. They finally realized that all they were doing by giving extra promotion points for minorities was making the situation worse.

Discrimination is discrimination. By institutionalizing it in any way the situation worsens, it doesn't improve.

So I guess if you are a poor white male who can't afford to go to college too bad for you since MOST white americans seem to have no problem affording stuff??...that logic is flawed. ALL people of ALL nationalities should have the same opportunities in this country and not be discriminated against simply for being born a specific color or gender. Anyone who feels it's not okay for everyone to have segregated scholarships, if ANY do, is practicing reverse descrimination. If there is a United Negro College Fund and a Hispanic College Assistance Program, there should be able to be a Caucaisan College Fund or Caucasian scholarship, just like anyone else, without people getting bent out of shape about it. Go ask some poor white people who could use a helping hand. There are PLENTY in need, just like every other race. I'm tired of hearing how everyone else is wronged and white people have all the advantages, it's just not true. There are LOTS of poor white people and underpriviledged white kids, just like everyone else. Either get rid of the race issue completely for those needing help and scholarships, etc, or make it available for ALL races to have their own without complaints. I vote for getting rid of it and letting everyone attempt to earn them by hard work and effort, not color of skin.

I think Affirmative action was extremely important when
I was growing up.
(now in my opinion it should be put on the back burner)

Even though the kids in my family use being part Hispanic/Indian to
help get them into the Universities/scholarships...
I think Jobs, Universities etc. should be based on grades, skill and qualification not based on race today.
If you want something bad enough, are willing to work hard for it,
you can get it. (it might take you longer than someone else that
has an easier life, but it is possible)
JMHO

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Furthermore I think many of the comments made by pters on this thread are dissappointingly ignorant and unfortunately they reflect all to well the attitudes of white christian americans.

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Don't know if you're referring to me or not, but in case you are ... I'm 1/4 Native American, and I've never used that fact to get a scholarship, job, etc. Neither has my mother, who is 1/2, or my grandmother, who is full Native American. We could all be on the rolls right now, but none of us ever has been ... we all chose to make it in life based on our intelligence and hard work, not the color of our skin.

My son is 1/2 Hispanic, and I've raised him the same way. If he gets a scholarship to college or a great job, it will be because he is intelligent and a hard worker, not because his great-great-grand-father happened to be born in Mexico.

And, BTW, I'm not a Christian, either.

I just happen to believe that people ... ALL people ... ought to sink or swim, make it or fail, based on their own individual qualitities, not where their ancestors happened to be born.

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Originally Posted by Twisterdog

I just happen to believe that people ... ALL people ... ought to sink or swim, make it or fail, based on their own individual qualitities, not where their ancestors happened to be born.

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I totally agree. I should say that the reason I said it was about time for for this scholarship because of the statement it is making, not because I actually believe that anyone should get a scholarship for being white. I think that's the whole idea behind it.

And I still don't quite understand how Christianity came into this :confused:

This one strikes very close to home. My son is a sophomore in college. He is in one of those dorm rooms where there are 4 rooms with one central living area. He is the only white in the suite. At first he was like "cool! I get to room with half the basketball team!" and was really excited to start the school year with his new athlete buddies... the color of their skin was not even a part of the equation. But it is NOW. Why? Because all 7 other guys have 100% free rides to school thanks to their race, and they know they can't be kicked out because of it either. So, here my son is, poor white kid busting his butt for his $500 scholarship while the others all get free rides thanks to thier skin color.

Their attitudes show their invicibility too. They party A LOT. So much so that my son begs to come home every weekend just so he can get sleep and not worry about being vomited on or having someone bang his door in at 3:00 in the morning. Ah, but he has no door now because someone broke it down a month or so ago when he wouldn't answer the door after midnight. Who has to pay for the door? not the kid who broke it down in a drunken burst of energy - we do.

None of them study. None of them do homework. They all say they don't have to - someone else will do it for them since they're the basketball guys and the school won't kick them out because they need them there to meet their minority quota. So my poor son struggles and frets to get B's, but living with the loudest partying guys makes studying impossible.

Its not fair.... these guys all get free rides because of their skin color. They know it. They don't NEED the money. They all have plenty of it to buy their booze. They all drive NICE cars. My son doesn't even drive because we can't afford insurance, let alone a car or gas. Yet his roomates get free rides and have cars, the best clothes, lots of extra spending money for food, dates, etc. And my son (and many kids like him) are struggling to make it through the semester

Unfortunately this is not an isolated incident. I know it happens on campuses across America. I understand the reasons all the minority scholarships came to be - but its being abused and not living up to its potential.

Kim, That may be the whole athletic thing and not just skin color, unfortunately the athletes get a free ride lots of times and not the scholars.