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Not necessarily! If a toddler were to manage to sneak a bite or two of raw food a day; the results could also be very serious.Quote:
Raw would have prevented the 3 deaths of my dogs, as well as keeping my toddler safe. Those months with her on those tests, and what they were testing her for, allllllll seems like a hellish nighmare.
I think you're exaggerating, borzoimom. IAMS didn't kill your 3 dogs - it probably only added to problems that would have come on their own.
Feeding raw wouldn't have kept a toddler safe, it would have made her sicker than the dog food would have.
no I have to agree that raw would have been safer to the toddler then kibble, because there wouldnt be raw food laying around for the toddler to eat, it would be either in the dogs mouth, tummy, or put away in the fridge with childproof locks.
yes cali- you are right... exactly!
Excellent point. This is a real shocker and certainly would have been a nightmare. But anyone who reads this can't help wondering if these claims are verifiable!Quote:
evidence... evidence..
There have been some publicized cases of settlements due to bad batches of dog food that resulted in the death of dogs. But if a dog food company was sued for deliberatly making bad food that even harmed a child, that should have made headlines and led to landmark changes in the production of dog food!
When did this happen, how many dogs were involved and how did you manage to prove that the chemical the toddler had in her system came from dog food?
Nope- mine is a real case.. Its me.. its us.. they paid.. but it didnt relieve the worries years later.. And reason why iams is now available in walmart.. They went from a top food to garbage.. And they found it in my daughter at NIH .. its a easy test once they know what they are looking for .. It starts as "toxic substance present"..Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebird
Could you explain a little more about the situation?
It's hard to understand how a bite or two of kibble here and there could harm a child when hundreds of thousands of pets were eating hundreds of times that amount every day without any side effects.
Was it a just a single bad batch or was it in all that company's food that was being sold at the time? How many dogs died from the food other than yours? How did you manage to prove that the chemicals in your daughters system came from eating dog food and not from another source?
She was a toddler at the time. And got into the dog food as I free fed at the time about a few pieces a day. Her immune system shut down. She went from a cold to pnemonia in 48 hours, etc. After a few days in the hospital, she would be fine. Then back home here we go again. This went on for almost a year when NIH had me bring in everything to bring in I could the child would come in contact with, and on a whin I brought in a cup of my Iams.. -POOF INSTANT CULPRIT..
I really dont feel like discussing it any further. Some of this I cant on the the settlement, and quite frankly- it was a nightmare. How woud you feel if you child was tested for lyme, to aids, to cancer etc while you just sat and watched over an over..
See what people dont understand is- ethoxyquin is in people food, but as a perservative in cayenne peppers. But in order for you to injest daily what they would, you have to eat 5 tablespoons of cayenne peppers a day twice a day to get the amount a dog would...
I wish I didnt know so much about dog foods. It was easier when I didnt, but I do... too much.. over pain.. its awful!!! Its like knowing about cancer first hand.. same thing..
As I said earlier, it must have been a nightmare! But when making serious claims like this in a public forum it's important to be able to back it up with facts. Otherwise it's nothing more than speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by borzoimom
Whatever the case may be; that was a long time ago. It is completely irrelevant to the dog foods being manufactured today.
Actually it totally applies.. read this- now this was 5 years ago but keep in mind only thing that has changed is Nutro has had 2 recalls but the process on a rendering plant is the same . You have to understand, a rendering plant can add whatever to the mix without the mother company claiming it in the ingredients... The reason- we dont eat dogs and cat in this country.. http://www.dog-spoiling-made-easy.co...gredients.html
In other words- if we consumed dogs and cats, they would have to be careful of the chemicals they put in their feed like they do our cattle and chicken feed..
Even 5 years ago doesn't relate to recent advancements in technology and processing.
Gee I was under the impression that we don't eat dogs and cats because we're a civilized country! :D
Are you saying that more care is taken when processing food for farm animals than when processing food for pets? :confused:
Unfortunatley - yes. They can only add certain things in horse, cattle lamb etc feed because we consume them.. It is a sick fact.. doesnt that make your blood boil? It does mine.. Ethoxyquin and certain levels of bha and bht are not allowed in foreign markets because they do consume dogs and cats. Sick isnt it??/ But true!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebird
Yes it would make me angry if that's the case. Do you have any suggestions where I can find current information on that?