Not dogs. There are way too many homeless. I don't care if it has the looks to be a show dog, does being good looking give you the right to live while others die?
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Not dogs. There are way too many homeless. I don't care if it has the looks to be a show dog, does being good looking give you the right to live while others die?
NEVER!! I have my hands full with rescues, not to mention the fact that i would love to run a rescue of my own. I have never been interested in breding and never will. I dont care about breed or conformation, all i care is that the dog is mine, and being well taken care of. I also would love to own a horse rescue facility, and have never thought to breed my own horses, there are just too many out there that need good homes. There are very many breeders out there and unfortunately most are not responsible! Breeding is not for me!!
Once my business is stable enough, I would love to start breeding Shelties. Not a huge kennel though.. I want my pups to be perfect examples of the breed. Shelties are so popular now that there are a bunch of bad examples of the breed popping up. I want my Shelties to be able to work like they're supposed to, while still being a picture of elegance.
The more I learn about Belgians, the more I want to breed belgians too. I'd LOVE to breed Malinois cause I just love high-drive dogs but seeing as how Malinois are too much dog for most people, I've been thinking about possibly breeding my future Groen.. depending on her working ability, conformation and what boys I find for her.
Of course, I will also be rescuing. I don't believe in breeding if you don't/can't rescue either.
I think this is a bit irrelevant --- whether or not a dog deserves to die based on heritage is not the topic. Just because some of us choose to breed a certain look doesn't mean that we feel thatour dogs are better than other dogs and therefore deserve to live while others should die. I am breeding mainly for temperment. Good breeders also do rescue work. This year I have placed 12 kittens and one puppy, and am talking with a breeder about fostering a 4 month old tervuren, AND there are two pregnant cats coming here so that I can place both them and their kittens. I am applying to become a registered rescue through the SPCA. We are starting a kennel club and I am going to be head of rescue. I do 100 times the amount of rescue work than I do breeding. So just because one breeds, doesn't mean that one can't rescue.Quote:
Originally Posted by IRescue452
That's cool that you might want to breed herding cardis Erica. :) That's one reason I want to breed Belgians -- not for working ability though, but rather temperment. There aren't many good tempered Belgians these days. In fact, it is one breed I hate grooming, and if I weren't biased, I would probably really dislike the breed. Belgians are big freaks; most people feel that breeding for show is terrible, but I won't breed to a dog that isn't shown. If you have a Belgian that actually stands for a judge, that says something to me.
I'd say yes we might be breeding Maggy in the spring,Not too sure yet but has been talked about.Good Luck with the fostering your doing a great job helping animals in need.
Why are you breeding Maggy..?
I totally agree, temperament is more important than anything. A dog who looks amazing & can work shouldn't be bred at all if they have an unpredictable temperament. That is the case with a lot of breeds, I hate that some breeders become so obsessed with appearance that they miss the fact that dogs are companions first. I've had first-hand experience with our Champion Cocker who attacked my sister for no reason, and went on to attack another child. I also know a lady who breeds GSD's and trains them in the same complex where we train for Flyball, often on the same days. Her dogs are drop-dead gorgeous, but the lady has more than a few screws loose. I witnessed her training her GSD stud in the field next to us, with a 3-foot-long metal rod, and beating him with it when he lunged toward our dogs. We yelled over to her that she needs to leave if she's going to hit her dog, and she replied for real saying "I'm training this dog for Search & Rescue! I have to do this! Do you want him to kill a child?" She's seriously breeding a GSD and attempting to train him for SAR after he has bitten children, AND she's beating him on top of that -_-... it makes me sick when people breed with no regard to future puppies & future generations. I also know a lady on my team who brought her (AKC pointed) Border Collie bitch, in season, to practice and intends to breed her. It crushed me because this dog literally IS a black & white Golden Retriever! She has no ball drive, won't even hit the box, is slow, doesn't have an ounce of herding drive in her, has a fluffy coat and short muzzle, she has at least 15 pounds and 3 inches on my male BC, and she's totally aloof to other dogs and people. She doesn't have the BC spark in her eye, which to me is just as bad as breeding a dog with an aggressive temperament. If they are breeding dogs with a personality that is against how the breed should be, that is doing a disservice to the breed. It's really great that you emphasize a good personality in your dogs, because that is huge.
I understand where some of you guys are coming from, and breeding truly is not for 99% of people because it consumes so much time/energy/money and takes a truly dedicated person. But, reputable breeders are not producing the dogs that die in shelters. As a breeder, it is their responsibility to keep track of the puppies they produce and ensure that the homes they go to either keep the pup or return it. If their pups end up in shelters, they are not a reputable breeder no matter what. The vast majority of breeders ARE BYB's or puppy mills, and they do not care where the dogs they breed end up. I definitely agree that breeding dogs should not be done if it is not done responsibly and to better the particular breed.
I second that. I'm not trying to critisize, I just want to know what assets she has (herding titles? health certs? temperament tests?) that makes her worth breeding, besides cuteness of course! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Roxyluvsme13
NEVER would I get involved in breeding. Like Kay said, there are too many animals needing homes already and I don't want to add to the problem. I'd rather rescue/adopt than be involved in breeding. and I will ALWAYS rescue/adopt, not get involved in breeding, ever.
Yeah, I'm not trying to criticize either, just wondering as to if she's breed-worthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by bckrazy
I really don't think it's about Breed worthy,My Breeder on which i purchased Maggy from hung his Jacket up.There has been lots of requests for the herding dogs,he just mentioned it to me she has good working lines in her,Now im not sure if i'm going too,But these dogs are amazing they have great temperment,there hard workers,(what these people want)Now i never said i was going to just something that has been run by me,And it is totally not up too me it will be my Husband,He don't work full time and i do.I really have no time and since he has been hurt,he can no longer work due to his condition..But if i was to go ahead it would not be to breed just to breed,I have done it before never had complaints im set up have a kennel have the room,have the money to get these dogs shots etc etc.I'm not irresponsible my dogs have only the best.
If I had the knowledge, experience, time, and money to do it, I may have considered it.
But I'm no where near knowledgable enough to breed dogs.
All of us at PT know you are very knowledgable, though, Jordan, and we know that you are very responsible. I'm not worried about ya.
I love the names Melodic Night and ClearWater.. but my favourite of the two is ClearWater! :D
Thank-you Hun,I have seen people say in here they want to breed to make extra money,WHich is crazy you don't make that much money,You put more into it if you ask me and i never charged outragious prices like some have,I have seen so many crazy things on breeding in here,I'm not like that nor will i ever.Now this will not happen until next year if it even will.But negativity will not change my mind never has never will.Also Maggy has my best intrest at heart i'd never do anything to harm her,She will be taken too the vet and gone over and if the vet says not a good idea if she has health problems(god forbid)OR he just observes that she is not ready or ever will be it will not happen her health and life is all i care about,I would never put her in harms way to please somone never!
I still don't know. I've thought yes, then no, then yes, then no, and I can't seem to come to a decision. I want to, my problem is that I don't know if I can commit to titling my dogs. I am hoping to have rescue dogs of my own as well as foster dogs and if I'm traveling to shows all the time - what will I do with my dogs who aren't in the shows?
I could easily commit to everything else involved in responsible breeding. So should I have time for shows, yes, I would probably do it. I do hope I am able to do it one day, but I'm just not sure yet.
I've thought of breeding Buck, but his dad's lineage isn't what I'd hoped for (very leggy dogs with boxy heads, and very few titles - good field instincts though), so I think I'd rather put my time and energy (and money) into a dog with better lineage. I've talked to a lot of reputable breeders of different breeds (including Labs), they think so long as he's titled and health tested that they'd give it a go, but I don't know yet, I'm going to wait and see how I feel when he's fully grown. There's so many Labs out there that really I think I should only breed him if I felt he could add something really special to a new generation.
No, I have no desire to. I think my biggest problem is that I love too many different breeds I could never put so much time and effort into one. :p
I will always have performance dogs though since I am ADDICTED to agility (and would love to try dock diving, frisbee, freestyle and flyball) :D In about 4 years, I'd love to get one of your pups, Jordan ;) :D