UK vs. USA dog shows

You guys seem to forget -- Crufts is an international dog show, so you will have dogs being entered from places such as the US where they DO practice procedures such as cropping and docking, etc.

Neither :(. But if i had to choose it would be UK shows, for working/ cropping reasons ;).

I despise the idea of dogs being judged on looks and not working ability.

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Originally Posted by cloverfdx

I despise the idea of dogs being judged on looks and not working ability.

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Ugh, me too. That is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to show breeders with working breeds. That CH should mean nothing unless if the dog has a working title too. The Lab parent club won't recognize a CH without a JH or WC but the AKC still does. And the sad part is, those are the easiest titles to obtain as long as your dog has the instinct! There's not much training that you have to do.

With dogs who aren't bred to work anymore or were never bred to work, like Great Danes, toy/miniature Poodles, etc., I think they should obtain agility or obedience titles before a CH is recognized.

To be honest,
I rarely ever watch dog shows. Same ideas as Rhi's... but a tad bit differed overall I don't care for them.

I'll stop and watch a show while flipping thru channels for a few seconds. All together, I find them boring.

I havnt got a preferance because iv never seen a US show!
but i think any show dog should show some potental (?speeling) in the job they were origally bred to do! (obvioulsly not toys etc). and im not for the docking ban, dog's like dobes,rotties, cockers etc look horrid with long spindally tails. not ust for looks porpuses either they were docked for a reason!
but i would like to see shows from other contrys!

Ky

Could anyone give me a UK site and a US site so I could see the differences?

http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/amcocker.htm
http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/dobermann.htm
http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/rottweiler6.htm
I think they look good with full tails. The rottie's is full and thick, not spindley. They aren't usually docked for a reason anyway. ALL breeds have the same risk for breaking their tails. Besides, the rottie, dobermann, corgi, griffon brux, min pin, yorkie, and many other breeds aren't even used for hunting in heavy brush cover where their tails could be hurt.

I really like Boxers with their tails:
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Check out this site:
http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/

That's another reason I don't like dog shows - I prefer natural ears and tails!

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Originally Posted by Kfamr

That's another reason I don't like dog shows - I prefer natural ears and tails!

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Same here! That website that shows all those tails is shocking! :(

I prefer FCI :D

But actually it depends on breed.. I mean UK has awesome setters, especially gordons, as I´m showing them and other hunting dogs.

But USA has nice aussies and huskies....

but the one thing I really dont like about USA is how they change so many breeds into ugly dogs (sorry..) maybe the dogs arent ugly..but not as they were supposed to be..as example is GSD

look at his back legs! :eek: how the dog is going to move on hard surface??

http://foto.radikal.ru/0509/9d3db6d6cd21.jpg

also I find USA dobies quite...not so beautiful as the original ones...

I'd just like to add that I really don't like how in my breed (dals) blue eyes are a DQ in the UK. I bet they've kept more cautious temperament though but I'm not sure. I prefer the slightly cautious ones over outgoing as the AKC standard says because1. outgoing dogs can get annoying, 2. They're supposed to gaurd my horses for me for heavens sake and chances are my future ones will!

I really am not interested in dog shows period, so I don't have a preference. Agility trials are much more my thing ;)

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Originally Posted by zoomer

I like the Boxer's ears in USA, I think they look good.

But I like the fact that UK doesn't have cropped/docked dogs. Well, they aren't part of the standard.

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Hi,

Actually we do have some Docked dogs in Crufts. For example my English Cocker has been docked. I beleive gundogs are allowed to be docked within the UK but no other breed. That goes with the shape of their use :)

Thanks
Mike