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No problem. :D Now give Tink and Jupiter a kiss. :D
oh of course!!!Quote:
Originally posted by ramanth
No problem. :D Now give Tink and Jupiter a kiss. :D
as I type i am uploading some pictures to put in cat general....
Because the wonderful Mr. Kat (jupiter) WILL NOT QUIT CHASING MY MOUSE ARROW AND GETTING ALL IN THE WAY!:D
I attended a paraochial school when I was younger and was raised Catholic...so a little of the Christian faith is known to me. I just can't remember details, especially as I don't follow that faith any longer. :)Quote:
Originally posted by WolfChan
I thought I had heard this too, but I didn't want to bring it up since I know little about it.
We celebrate christmas as Christ's birthday. I don't really know how all the santa and tree jazz got into the celebration of Jesus' birth. I think families participate in it for the holiday fun... of the spirit of giving.. and do it with all the extras. My family always reads the story of Jesus' birth from the bible before we open our presents.:DQuote:
Originally posted by popcornbird
Off topic, but since we're on the subject...I have always wondered why Christians celebrate Christmas the way they do. I mean...where do you get the holiday from? The Bible? Did Jesus celebrate it (or did his followers celebrate it)? I don't think he/they did.
Our holidays all come from religion.....like Ramadan (the month in which we fast from dawn to sunset everyday) is the month in which we believe God sent down the Quran to Prophet Muhammad. We get that holiday from religion. We get Eid-ul-Fitr (the day after the completion of Ramadan), from religion too. Prophet Muhammad always celebrated it. Its supposed to be a day of thanks and a reward to those who fasted the entire month on God's command. Our third holiday (Eid-ul-Udha) is based on the story of Abraham.......when God commanded him to sacrifice his son to test his faith, and stopped him before did so, and sent him a ram from heaven to sacrifice instead. These are the only three holidays we have and they're all based on religion, and based on the lunar calendar, on the exact dates on which they occured. Where do Christian holidays/traditions come from though? I only ask this out of curiosity.......I had always wondered what Santa, christmas trees, etc. had to do with Jesus.
sooo what your saying is God being taken outta schools is the only reason the worlds gone down hill? I've experienced first hand the reasons its gone down hill. My mother and I lived the BEST life until Bush was elected. We had a 4 bedroom, 3 bathroom house with only us living there, plenty in the bank accounts, 3 vehicles, several pets, anything we wanted we could have. Bush was elected and we didn't think anything of it until mom lost her job after Bush's decisions, then 1 and 2 cars had to be sold.. had to give the dogs up for adoption.. and eventually lost the house. We were homeless for 6 months. Nobody came to help us, no special "programs" or "orginazations" there to take us and help us rebuild *LIKE THERE WAS WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT THAT ALLOWED US TO REBUILD FROM OUR FIRST BANKRUPTCY* In the time we were homeless I experienced so much, I learned so quick why this worlds quickly dying. Yes, Bush is a big reason for why. Republicans in general are the reason why, their so greedy and selfish. You wanna know why its gone down hill from a person who experienced it first hand?Quote:
Originally posted by Christiansmommy
I have not read every single post here, but the one thing that really seems to amaze me is...we have a bunch of psychics on this board, that seem to know that, had Gore been elected 4 years ago, that 9-11 wouldn't have happened? How anyone can blame Bush for 9-11...it is beyond me...
And to those of you who say that christianity is being "pushed" at you...and that is why you feel it shouldn't be mentioned (religion) in public schools, there are always 2 sides to the argument...what about us Christians, who are opposed to evolution, why should our children have to read about that in public schools, reguardless if you are calling it a science, and not a religion, we don't believe, period, it completely goes against what OUR religion teaches...
Look back 50 years ago, God was allowed to be mentioned in schools, and was a part of people's lives, and prayer was acceptable in schools, maybe even taught by the teachers...and there were morals and there weren't issues like gun shootings and the crime levels weren't so high and the drugs didn't overwhelm schools like they do now...the difference now...God is slowly being taken out of schools, out of our everyday lives, and the world is in trouble...big shocker...sadly, the pattern here, is America has lost it's values by taking religion out of schools...the proof is in the pudding...what are we doing wrong and lacking from schools, and everyday life, to make this world today seem so wrong, and in more trouble than this world, say, 50 years ago was...well, God is what is missing...someday, everyone will see it...right now, it is going to an ongoing argument...
More drugs, more alcohol, more filth, low selfesteem of those that had also lost everything, no health insurance so no help from doctors when it was desperatly needed, Yeah thanks Bush. Thanks for all youve "given" us. But hes not the only issue I realize that. 50 years ago not as many people were divorcing, 50 years ago the teachers paid more attention to the students, 50 years ago kids had atleast 1 family member they could run to when stuff was going wrong.
I'm christian but I don't believe in forcing religion in schools, thats not why kids suffer today. Ask them about their home life, if their parents listen to them, are they taken care of. They just need a friend.
But I also don't believe in hell or much of what the bible says about satan and the like. I believe in the Love of God - the Father, I believe in Karma - the Teacher, and Mother Nature - the Helping hand or healer. what many christians, (I *believe*), fail to do is be more open minded, from my own experience they take what their preacher says and believe it and end of story. they need to use their time to study and think deeply on everything thats said in the bible and why would our Father send us to "hell" for making mistakes when he purposely didn't make us perfect and etc.
It took me along long time to get back with religion after all I suffered through but I realize today that I had to be broken down to absolutely nothing before I would be able to HEAR Him. I don't feel alone anymore, when something goes wrong Hes the first I turn to and no matter what I KNOW He hears me. My life is better because I found MY friend that I can run to, all these kids need is a person that will listen and comfort.
I just wanted to touch on this because I'm sure it was in response to my post. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Christiansmommy
we have a bunch of psychics on this board, that seem to know that, had Gore been elected 4 years ago, that 9-11 wouldn't have happened? How anyone can blame Bush for 9-11...it is beyond me...
I guess in a way, I do blame Bush. He's our President and I feel he's supposed to keep us safe. Could the attack of happened had Gore been president? Yes I'm sure it could have, and I'd be miffed at Gore and would be blaming him.
On the same token, again, I say it's not right to say we are a safer nation because Bush is still in office. An attack could still happen. And I don't think it was right of Bush to say that we'd be less safe with Kerry in office. I'm sure it was just mud slingling, but he's not psychic either.
A major attack happened under Bush's watch and with him still as President... yes... I'm nervous.
And that's just my opinion. :)
"Santa" is based off of St. Nicholas. This site explains the legend/history of St. Nicholas:
http://www.umkc.edu/imc/stnick.htm
In summary, it states:
"The story of St. Nicholas, also called Nicholas of Bari and Nicholas of Myra (and Santa Claus), began in what is now Turkey, early in the fourth century, near the modern Turkish city of Finike. One of the most popular minor saints commemorated in the Eastern and Western churches, his feast day is December 6th. He is now traditionally associated with the festival of Christmas."
I believe the tree and St. Nich and gift giving parts of Christmas used to be separate from the religious observation of Christ's birth long long ago, but when Christmas came to be combined with other celebrations over time until it became a combination of different things for different people. As mentioned about Yule Tide, some of those things were incorporated into "Christmas." I think if you did a search on the net and put in things like "History of Christmas trees" or "History of Santa" etc, you'd come up with a lot of reading too.
We've got a lot of different discussions going on here, but I'm addressing one in particular
LKPike, I terribly sorry for what you have experienced with your family. Can I ask you, specifically, what President Bush did that caused this?
I lost my job last week. I haven't said a word about it, here, before now, but I think it is time. I do not blame George Bush, as I would not have blamed Bill Clinton or John Kerry. My industry has changed and it has been a rough couple of years. I actually probably have a reason to blame government, or even more specifically, President Bush, because during his administration, the Small Business Administration has not been the top priority, which has led to program problems, budget issues, funding issues, etc, which all directly impacts me and my company since I am an originator of Small Business Administration loans. Do I blame him? No way. I don't blame anyone. It is a part of life, and an unpleasant one, at that. 20 years ago, when I graduated from college, I went to work for a major Textile company (Cannon Mills). One year after I started working for them as a management trainee, I lost my job. There was no where to place the people in training. Everyone who started when I did, lost their jobs. I never looked back with bitterness, just moved forward and started in a different industry. That's what I plan to do now.
Just some thoughts from me.
Logan
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Sorry about your job, Logan :(
I wish you the best of luck in your search for a new industry though. I hope you can make this into an exciting and fun opportunity!
Absolutely! You have a great outlook on something that can be shattering!Quote:
Originally posted by aly
Sorry about your job, Logan :(
I wish you the best of luck in your search for a new industry though. I hope you can make this into an exciting and fun opportunity!
Thank you, ladies. I'm going to be just fine, in time, as will my family. I like to think that I'm the type that will land on my feet, and I will!!!! :)
Logan
Kudos, logan.
The Federal Government actually has little to nothing to do with the cycles of the economy. They can make it easier for companies, and improve employment, or they can make it difficult for companies to grow and restrict it. (Normally as an unintended consequence, like EPA Regs that go too far). Your local Government has Far more to do with the local economy than the federal Govt. For a prime example, look at what happened to Mass in the late '70s to the mid to late '80s. I won't get into detail, but it was a cycle of excessive taxation in a weak economy combined with huge growth in government spending. End result? many manufacturers closed up shop. It wasn't until the tech boom started that Mass started to recover, after the state finally realized they had to cut taxes and make the business climate a little more frendly.
The point is that the great big brother in Washington can't really do much to help you, but can do a great deal of harm through excessive taxation and regulation. Self reliance goes far when dealing with the potholes in the road, and asking the federal government to do something about your personal situation is a bit unrealistic.
I've literally been sick to my stomach ever since i've heard that bush has won.
It makes me completely sick and i'm really afraid of what's going to happen in this country.
Today at my school, a girl who is highly for John Kerry, got her vehicle vandalized. YEAH.... what a wonderful society to live in.
I'm almost scared to voice my opinion anymore.. what's next?
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Originally posted by Lady's Human
The Federal Government actually has little to nothing to do with the cycles of the economy. They can make it easier for companies, and improve employment, or they can make it difficult for companies to grow and restrict it.
Lady's Human, isn't that a bit of a contradictory statement ?
Never mind.... Should be in a different thread....
Logan,
I wish you the best in landing another position. I know you will.
Just wanted to send good wishes in looking around for the right
spot. :) Liz.