Update on the Koi

We Changed the water in the big tank again as I was instructed on a forum. They said to change 75% of it. SO we did. The coudiness is already going way down and there is none in the small tank. I found out I was over feeding them. So now that I know that I can do a little better but I still have a long way to go to learn about these beautiful guys. I do know if I ever get a big pond the next one I want is a platinum koi. They look like sparkling silver stars. Anyway. Here are pictures of the tanks

10g holding the 3 4 inch koi
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709017.jpg

55g holding the four 8 inch Koi plus the sucker fish
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709016.jpg


Here are some pictures of the fish
Leo
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709013.jpg

The 4 inc fish (fire fox, silver surfer and no name yet)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709002.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709003.jpg

8inch fish (Shimmer, Sparkle, Peace and Skeletor)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709011.jpg

Peace
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709006.jpg

Sparkle
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...3/J2709007.jpg

Shimmer
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../J27009004.jpg

Skeletor
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../J27009020.jpg

In my opinion, keeping Koi in a tank is cruel. There will not be enough room for them so there really isn't an option of "if I ever get a pond". Your tank would have to be huuuuge!
You will always have ammonia issues, whether you over feed or not.
They've also been known to bust glass in tanks...

If you want something that you can keep in a tank, and that looks simislar to Koi, have a look at Comets. They're Goldfish, but they they are manageable in tanks. They even have the Koi patterns and colors, they just don't get as big or strong.

WOW thanks for the kick in the but when all I am doing is teying my best to help these fish. It is not like I live in an area where Koi are popular to my knowlege. THis was my first time seeing them. I could give them back to the pet store but then how would they end up. At least I am trying. SO stop insulting. Stop telling me over and over agian that the tanks are to small and tell me what I can do with what I have untill I can improve things for them.

I haven't told you over and over?? This is the first time I've seen anything about Koi here. I'm pretty sure I've never talked to you at all.

I apologize for whatever you think my intention was in replying to you, all I was doing was watching out for the welfare of the fish.

I think you are doing great... keeping them ok in what you have...

if I recall this fish are the landlords... so the tanks were already there... and I´m sure she´ll do what´s needed for them to be better... gettign a pond or bigger tank...

just like you do with any new to you pet... you research and get help form people more familair with them, in this case Koi, and you learn and improve for their better...

no need for insults or blames.. we all start not knowing and it´s good to get help... maybe the wordings got a lil harsh.. but I know it was an opinion and suggestion in order to keep the fish and people happy...

I apologize but I have been hearing the same thing over and over and over and over agian and it is driving me insaine. No one is giving me solutions that I can work with. All I get is the tanks are too small, the fish will die, give them away, build a pond(in the middle of -30 winter)Only one person on one forum gave me advice that I could do. Empty the tank 75% and add in new water, reduce the amount I feed them(I was over feeding them) and so on. All I got was negative. I was getting so tired of it. I was asking for help noit negativity. Why is it that everytime someone wants help people give negeativity. I am learning and trying here and can only do so much. Agian I apologize for snapping.

My only worry was the welfare of the fish, I had no idea that you were working with what you have or that they belong to somebody else.

It is cruel to keep them in the tank, the ammonia alone will kill them as there is no possible way to keep up with it. That's like 2 water changes a week with as many fish are in there, unless you have one heck of a filter. Space per fish is another issue, not yet, but it will be. I was simply saying that a pond cannot be an option when they get larger, your tank would have to be immense.

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybuns

I was simply saying that a pond cannot be an option when they get larger, your tank would have to be immense.

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I know NOTHING about fish. But I did have a question. So are you saying that the fish must be a certain size before you can put them in a pond? And that they will not get to that size in the tanks they are currently in?

Not so much a certain size, but while they're small, as long as she has an awesome filter, they can stay in the tank for now. They do need more room, though. A 10 with 3 koi and a 55 with 8 koi isn't enough room for any of them, as they grow pretty quick.

If a large fish stays small due to it's living arrangements, you're actually stunting it's growth. Of course nobody wants to do that...

Hope I explained welll enough.

Got it.
Well, like Nicole said, she's still learning about these guys. It was part of her moving into her new place that she take care of them. So she also needs to communicate with the owners before doing anything, I'm sure.

There are only 4 in the 55g. Just thought I should clear that up.

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Originally Posted by NicoleLJ

WOW thanks for the kick in the but when all I am doing is teying my best to help these fish. It is not like I live in an area where Koi are popular to my knowlege. THis was my first time seeing them. I could give them back to the pet store but then how would they end up. At least I am trying. SO stop insulting. Stop telling me over and over agian that the tanks are to small and tell me what I can do with what I have untill I can improve things for them.

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How do you give them back to a pet store when they are supposed to belong to the landlord...ooops!

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Originally Posted by shepgirl

How do you give them back to a pet store when they are supposed to belong to the landlord...ooops!

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Because if you had been reading along she went and bought a bigger tank and took me with her and had me help her pick out a couple of other Koi. SO the OOOOPPPPssssss is on you. Duhhh start keeping up with the threads. Instead of trying to find ways to attack in them.

Good old Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koi_fish

Sorry to say that the koi is actually a carp... :)

What size filters are you running on the tanks?