Dog Food Rant-

THATS IT- I HAVE HAD IT.. And no i am not on decongestants..
IF PEOPLE OR THE DOG FOOD MAKERS think its funny to the following facts- may they rot in h*ll:
* prior to 1976 the average life span of any dog was easily 13 years- now the average is 11 with giant breeds at 8 years barely.
* with only AFCO they state a dog food to be for the dogs life to be at 25 percent protein- and 15 fat- you can get the same darn thing on shoe leather soaked in vegetable oil..
No standard on ingredients and the reason is- WE IN THE US DO NOT EAT DOGS- I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT- IF WE ATE DOGS- THEY WOULD EAT BETTER, AS people can not eat the chemicals we give in dog food...
* HOW many of you remember your grand parents dogs that lived healthy their whole life until the end?- Yet we deal with dry skin, skin infections, cancers of liver, kidneys and skin,,.. EVER WONDER WHY????

* YES- I AM A FANATIC ABOUT PET FOODS..- I TRY TO EAT HEALTHY MYSELF- BUT AT SOME POINT SOMEONE HAS TO STOP AND THINK- MY DOGS LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN A FEW BUCKS IN A COMPANY THAT QUITE FRANKLY DOESNT GIVE A RATS BUTT about how I feel about my dog.They don't care- that I will worry when in the vets office- that I will jolt my heart at sign of cancer on the skin- failing liver or kidney function- brain problems that makes the dog aggressive and has to be put down.... WHEN AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU GOING TO SAY- ENOUGH- ENOUGH AND TAKE your dogs health in what they eat as seriously if not more so than you do your own???? WHEN????

* It starts at puppy hood- and grows. If you ate the same thing only- twice a day- day after day, week after week, month after month- year after year- it BETTER BE GOOD- BECAUSE, PEOPLE- that is ALL they got... THATS IT.. Its the difference from you eating pototoe chips every day and wait for your skin to break out with nothing else- YEA SURE- YOU ARE ALIVE- but are you healthy???????????? SHOOT NO... !!!

I WISH I DIDN'T KNOW as much about dog food as I do.. I wish to he*l I didn't have to wake up to what I did- BUT I DID.. I cant bring my dogs back- but I CAN MAKE SURE- the ones I have live a longer, healthier, safer, happier life without being ill..

I AM SICK OF THE DOG FOOD COMPANIES- MOST DONT GIVE A DARN ABOUT YOUR PET.!! ITS ALL ABOUT THE MIGHTY DOLLAR- SO YOU BETTER DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF.. Look at it as feeding a child- cause you know what- JUST LIKE A CHILD- they know no life or food without YOU...

IT STARTS AT HOME- do the research.. I dont care if you have to send the food out to a lab for the real statement on the food...
* DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE STANDINGS ON FAT AND PROTEIN IS DONE PRIOR TO PROCESSING??? YET WHEN ITS PROCESSED THE HEAT FROM EXTRUSION KILLS ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THE B vitamins- then we wonder why our bitches loose puppies- or our old dog has heart problems, or the middle age dog can't walk from lack of balenced phororus and calcium.. HELLLLLLLLLLLLOOO.

LOOK AT YOUR Pets FOOD- I MEAN UPSIDE DOWN, INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS- AND REMEMBER - BETWEEN THAT FOOD AND YOU - thats all they got! Make it good or spend the rest of your money on vet bills, but most of all - serious heartache!

Are we done with our tantrum yet?

This is sad. :( no joke.

wow Borzoid, that was some rant. Understand how you feel though, just finished another article on kibbled foods

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Are we done with our tantrum yet?

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FOR NOW- yes... Mr. Lady Human- that is the way it was..

actually some of that was rather useful....I'll have to let my mom know...she feeds her mutt commercial feed, but Deedee also has a heart murmur...maybe feeding raw will help the poor old girl...

My uncle feeds his dobes raw...one of them recently past away but lived a longer life than most larger dogs...11 or 12 years I think.

And it does make sense to look into what you are feeding any of your animals...My animal nutrition classes last year partially shocked the heck out of me...I learned some useful things though.

Though I do have a question...there are some formulated feeds that are pretty good for the dog right? I heard chicken soup for the dog lovers soul is good, as well as a few others (cant remember the name though.)

There's more baloney in that post than there is filler in a cheap hot dog.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion right?

Its all a matter of doing what you feel is right for yourself and your dog...when my puppy comes I am probably going to feed him raw....I think he will be healthier that way...

My mom and dad on the other hand will probably continue to feed pelleted diets, though they are looking for some of the better stuff, which helps.

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

- WE IN THE US DO NOT EAT DOGS- I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT- IF WE ATE DOGS- THEY WOULD EAT BETTER AS they can not eat the chemicals we give in dog food...

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Huh? :confused:

I didn't get that part either. I can't say anything else about the post though as I don't know much about dog food. I just know my dogs are healthy and happy right now.

Just because I am curious though...what happened to spark this?

I think what she meant to say with that statement was that the quality of the feed would be better (or there would be less chemicals in the food) if we bred edible pooches...which may or may not be true...the feedlots tend not to feed to much bad things to their animals...but they are also trying to come to a ratio of price vs. gain. So you would probably loose alot of the chemicals but the quality of the food fed might not actually change....lol, though most of the animals I study are herbavores...they get fed med quality forages typically.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Huh? :confused:

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She means that with all the chemicals in dog food, if we were into eating dogs here, it would probably be banned by the FDA because they are harmful to us.

I understand what your saying michelle.

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I wish to he*l I didn't have to wake up to what I did- BUT I DID.. I cant bring my dogs back- but I CAN MAKE SURE- the ones I have live a longer, healthier, safer, happier life without being ill..

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Now this is my question...what do you mean by that?

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Huh? :confused:

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Meaning- as if you studied dog food like I have - most of the chemicals and the grade of ingredients is not even remotely considered safe for humans.
If we ate dogs- they would require dogs to be fed safer- like they do our cows, sheep, chickens etc. They can NOT have cancer causing things in their diet to spread to the meat in our eating.. Simple way of putting it- but its a horrid fact!

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Huh? :confused:

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thats ones easy, because dogs in north america are not intended for humane consumtion they are able to pt many chemicals in the foods that would never in a million year be allowed in the feed of an animal intended for human consumtion.

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Originally Posted by Ceph

actually some of that was rather useful....I'll have to let my mom know...she feeds her mutt commercial feed, but Deedee also has a heart murmur...maybe feeding raw will help the poor old girl...

My uncle feeds his dobes raw...one of them recently past away but lived a longer life than most larger dogs...11 or 12 years I think.

And it does make sense to look into what you are feeding any of your animals...My animal nutrition classes last year partially shocked the heck out of me...I learned some useful things though.

Though I do have a question...there are some formulated feeds that are pretty good for the dog right? I heard chicken soup for the dog lovers soul is good, as well as a few others (cant remember the name though.)

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If you want the address of the lab to send your food in- do not tell them what brand- they will run a series of tests on it- from chemicals to meat quality. I have tested at this point over 45 foods! At 35 dollars a pop, now 75 dollars a pop..