I gotta Monkey! [Archive]

Addie

10-10-2005, 06:11 PM

Hehe, my nana went over to Africa again, the first time since i last went with her and since my beloved dog James died, the people we were staying with bought me a monkey!!! His name is Emory and he is a 8 month old Spider monkey! I love him to pieces! I will put pictures up if anyone responds...

Flatcoatluver

10-10-2005, 06:12 PM

aww adorble can't wait to see pics

xVelvet_FuzzButtx

10-10-2005, 06:58 PM

:D you better post pictures!!
do you have a cage like wall size? or is he free in the house always?
-Dresden

Jessika

10-10-2005, 07:00 PM

A monkey seems like a much bigger responsibility than a dog.....

They just took a monkey from Africa, or what?? I'm ASSUMING they bought it from a credible breeder and it isn't 100% wild.

areias

10-10-2005, 07:05 PM

Jessika

10-10-2005, 07:18 PM

...they bought him from Africa and brought him to the US? How did they do that? I believe there are some strict laws against that...or at least it would have to be quarantined for some time. What if it has some kind of disease or something?

Oh I forgot about that when I replied earlier. Yeah there is a BUNCH of paperwork and you have to obtain a permit to own one in the states. And I don't think its possible at all to just bring one via plane to America, ESPECIALLY from a country prone to disease via primates like Africa.

bckrazy

10-10-2005, 07:30 PM

I do agree with Jessika. I don't believe in keeping wild animals as pets, period. But good luck with your monkey :) they are a HUGE handful, exactly like caring for a toddler for 20+ years!

trayi52

10-10-2005, 07:50 PM

I also want to see pictures of that little fellow!

Willie :)

carole

10-10-2005, 07:54 PM

You are most fortunate, here in NZ it is illegal to own wild animals including monkeys, so you indeed have a prize, can't wait to see his pics, a new PT playmate for Mario eh?

Flatcoatluver

10-10-2005, 09:13 PM

hmm, would ducks almost be called wild, probably a really dumb question

CagneyDog

10-10-2005, 10:04 PM

I doubt they would let you take one over to the US.

CarrieB

10-10-2005, 10:39 PM

Jessika is partly right about the wild animal thingy, but still, the dog was once wild, and so was the horse, and ect! But I am not saying monkeys are going to be like that, im just saying that some COULD be. So I am still so very happy for you! Show us some pics please!! :)

Jessika

10-10-2005, 10:46 PM

hmm, would ducks almost be called wild, probably a really dumb question

Ducks are a lot more domesticated than a monkey from Africa, and that's my point.

And you can't compare the wildness of a monkey to the wildness to that of a dog. Dogs have been domesticated over hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Monkeys have been domesticated.... never.

areias

10-11-2005, 01:21 AM

Ducks are a lot more domesticated than a monkey from Africa, and that's my point.

And you can't compare the wildness of a monkey to the wildness to that of a dog. Dogs have been domesticated over hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Monkeys have been domesticated.... never.

For some odd reason, that made me laugh really hard. :D Maybe I'm just in a wierd mood.

Yea anyways...it's usually not a good thing to keep a wild animal in your home. This is a completely different climate than Africa. They don't sell prepackaged monkey food or toys..it's really not ideal. Now if you had a large enclosure designed for a monkey...maybe it would work. But actually the disease thing really bothers me...importing creatures that are not native can wreak havoc.

It's the same thing as having a tiger in your home. Please reconsider bringing it home.

Corinna

10-11-2005, 08:07 AM

Hey I'm with Willie lets see the little one. Mario could have compation at Thursdays cyper bar.

new mom to a veiled

10-11-2005, 08:37 AM

PLEASE, PLEASE post pic of Emory..........I'd love to see him!!!

lv4dogs

10-11-2005, 12:17 PM

I'd love to see the cutie! I've always been fond of monkeys!

crazy_caique

10-11-2005, 02:27 PM

I whould love to see pics of your monkey. :)

Addie

10-11-2005, 08:09 PM

oh, you make me laugh you guys! I did say i had a monkey, BUT i never said it lived with ME. He lives in Africa with the family I stayed with!LOL! I know how much paperwork and stuff you have to put up with. I tried to bring James over before he got poisoned and there was like a 300 dollar fine for 1 month of quarantine, and i can't afford that. Especially if it were a monkey. Trust me, i looked into this. He actually IS domesticated and he did come from a breeder. He can be held, walk on a leash, he gives kisses, and sits and all that great stuff. But he is considered domestic over there, and according to the 'standards' he passes for domestic animal. He isn't at all wild though, which is cool, and he is SUPER tiny! I sent money over to have him vaccinated, they said 15 dollars would last for his vet bills for LIFE! That's crazy! Just imagine if we could all take our pets over to Africa and have their vet bills taken care of for under 1 dollar per visit! Well, i hope that resolved everyones problems, and without further adu(is that how you spell it?)

Emory!!!!!
http://pic.piczo.com/img/i92912288_23748.jpg
http://pic.piczo.com/img/i92911883_13890.jpg

and James: My poor baby that got poisoned!
http://pic.piczo.com/img/i98502964_6769.jpg

Jessika

10-11-2005, 08:23 PM

Well, when you say that someone bought you a monkey, what else were we supposed to assume? We can't read your mind to know it wasn't living with you.....

Addie

10-11-2005, 08:27 PM

well, if i didn't say it was living with me, good chance it's not

Jessika

10-11-2005, 08:39 PM

But you said it was bought FOR YOU.... agg nevermind. You're totally missing the point.

Addie

10-11-2005, 08:50 PM

I'm not missing the point, i understand what you're saying, my friends do this to me all the time. Like for example:
I have a shirt for my friend that says "Stupidity is not a crime so your free to go" but it's not HERS, it's hers, but i own it solely for the purpose of embarrasing her, in this case They have a monkey for me, it's mine, it just doesn't live with me

i don't really know if i am making sense

*LabLoverKEB*

10-11-2005, 08:57 PM

I do agree with Jessika. I don't believe in keeping wild animals as pets, period. But good luck with your monkey :) they are a HUGE handful, exactly like caring for a toddler for 20+ years!

DITTO.

jackie

10-11-2005, 09:30 PM

I have a shirt for my friend that says "Stupidity is not a crime so your free to go" but it's not HERS, it's hers, but i own it solely for the purpose of embarrasing her, in this case They have a monkey for me, it's mine, it just doesn't live with me

Yeah, ok....

Flatcoatluver

10-11-2005, 09:39 PM

I'm confused about the shirt thing

luvofallhorses

10-11-2005, 10:09 PM

I'm confused period.. :rolleyes:

QueenScoopalot

10-12-2005, 07:00 AM

I'm confused period.. :rolleyes:
Ditto on the confusion. :confused: The monkey is adorable, but the thing that disturbs me the most is the vast amounts of "bushmeat" poached in Africa, and the fact that most likely this baby is a sad victim of this. In other words, an orphan that has been forced to rely on humans in order to survive at all.
http://www.bushmeat.org/html/apesbushmeat.htm
All that said, I wish the baby well...he is adorable.

trayi52

10-12-2005, 07:19 AM

Do you live here in the United States? How often do you get to see this little fellow? Do you go to Africa to play with him? Sorry for all the questions, just wondering.:confused:

Such cute pictures of Emory!

Willie :)

Addie

10-12-2005, 04:44 PM

no, i haven't gone over to Africa to see him yet, and the African thing about the bush hunting or whatever, i can tell you he is not a victim of it. I saw his papers and he has no wild animal in his family, well, i mean, along the lines the family was domesticated, but the Breeder is like certified and stuff, they got him when he was born so there is no way he is a victim of that. I am also confused, well, let's just let that go...

ramanth

10-14-2005, 10:20 AM

He's a cutie. I hope your friends in Africa take good care of him.

ILoveReptiles

10-14-2005, 10:55 AM

PrinceBrewJulia

10-14-2005, 04:32 PM

Hes sooooo cute!! :D

Addie

10-15-2005, 11:01 AM

thanks

luckies4me

10-16-2005, 02:02 PM

Monkeys are not domesticated. Even if he came from a breeder he might be tame but in no way is he domesticated. Perhaps you should look up the word in the dictionary. He is awfully cute though. I feel bad for the little fellow. I sure hope that chain isn't around his neck all the time. His photos make me sad. :(

Addie

10-17-2005, 06:56 PM

bckrazy

10-17-2005, 09:55 PM

I agree with Cass :(.. he's very cute, but I hope he doesn't have to be chained up all day. Pet Monkeys require a secure, large space to be happy and healthy.

Erm, yeah, Monkeys are wild animals. -_- When zoo-keepers raise generations of Tiger cubs in a zoo, does that make them domestic pets? no. Dogs have been domesticated for 1000's of years, so there is a difference. They are genetically different from their wild relative, Wolves.

luckies4me

10-18-2005, 12:17 AM

why do the pictures make you sad? He has a leash, but they had to keep the chain on him because the baby is afraid of him. I just talked to Wisdom(the person i was staying with) yesterday and he said he acts like a little puppy, like my James. *Sigh* i miss James. But, whatever...he is considered domstic. And i never planned on bringing him here. But one thing i don't understand, you can catch a wild dog and it is considered domestic, but if you catch a monkey, or a monkey that came from a breeder, why is it called wild?

A wild dog or wild cat (feral animals) are still domesticated. A coyote and wolf are a totally seperate thing. They are not domesticated. Monkeys are NOT domesticated, even IF they came from a breeder. Ferrets, cats, dogs, guinea pigs, horses, cattle, etc are domesticated species. Monkey, tigers, zebras etc are NOT domesticated. They may be tame (meaning less likely to bite as they were raised by/with humans) but in no way domesticated. Some wild animals are considered exotics. I do exotic animal rescue and while some of the exotics I have come in different colors (one way to know a species is domesticated) they are still exotic. Short tailed possums, hedgehogs, kinkaju's, wolf hybrids, even some hybrid cat breeds such as Bengals, Chausies and Savannah cats are considered exotic animals in some states and you must have a permit to own one.

Here is a very good article explaining domestication and tameness. I love this article. It is so interesting! :D

http://www.devbio.com/article.php?ch=23&id=223

trayi52

10-18-2005, 06:41 AM

Addie, Cass is right about Monkies. I own a Capuchin and he is far from being domesticated. When we lived in the boonies, he ran free, friends who came to visit were always warned to NOT try and pick Mario up.Why? Because he would bite them of course. Well our house burn down a few months ago and we had to move to a small trailer just across the field from where we lived before. We had to figure out a way to capture Mario so that we could bring him with us! Get this, Mario is very friendly and will let you pet him, love on him, but he will not let you just pick him up! Anyway, Mario left the land he had lived on for so long. We thought we had lost him for good. Then we started gettting reports of Monkey sitings, he was headed toward town! Well we knew we were going to have to catch this guy, and that meant hands on! Yikes! I warned the family that one of us was probably going to get bit! Yes as much as Mario loved us he would bite us, as much as he wanted to come home to us, yes he would bite us..

It took several attempts to catch him, but one morning very early, my husband and I went and found him next to the highway. He was very thirsty and very happy to see us. I gave him a drink of gatorade, and he drank it, and I done what I knew I had to do, or perhaps chance never seeing him again. I jumped on Mario! Big mistake, big, big mistake! I tried to grab him by the back of the neck but my aim was not quite right. My thumb went right in his MOUTH! Yeap, felt like I stuck my thumb in a saw blade. Just as well to. My husband grabbed him by the back of the neck and the tail (thank god for that tail) and put him into a small pet carrier. We brought him home, put him inside the house and went to the hospital. From then on, doctors, hospitals, surgeries on my thumb, right thumb at that. Still don't have much feeling in that old thumb.

Mario, open the carrrier himself, so we had to recapture him in the house, and he is now living in his cage. He cannot run loose here, because where we are right now there is a neighbor across the street with children.

Mario is back to being his sweet loving self, loves to have his back scratched, being kissed, eating out your hand, but nobody dares try and hold him, all they have to do is look at my thumb! Lesson learned!

Willie :)

jackie

10-18-2005, 10:41 AM

I gave him a drink of gatorade

That one line made me crack up. Does Mario mark? I heard male monkeys are very territorial, and can be aggresive to men.

Addie, how often do you travel back and forth to Africa, and which part? It's one place I am dying to see!

Addie

10-19-2005, 07:29 PM

okay, well, i sometimes get words confused...i don't know the difference from tame and Domestic...sometimes. I was really tired so i was just like...ehhh....yeah, but anyway, I went to Ghana, in the Volta region to Ho.

trayi52

10-19-2005, 07:52 PM

Jackie, Mario loves my husband. Of course he doesn't let him pick him up either.

Addie, I think your little monkey is just adorable and very cute.

Willie :)

Addie

10-22-2005, 04:11 PM

thanks, i just called yesterday and they said he keeps chewing on things because he is still teething

rizzy

10-22-2005, 11:35 PM

Your little monkey is adorable! Good luck with him.:D

jackie

10-23-2005, 07:13 AM

When are you going to see him? Make sure you take lots of pictures.

Addie

10-23-2005, 10:06 AM

actually, once my grandparentstake my brother somewhere and i get atleast 300 dollars to spend, i am going bck over. probably this summer or next...the only thing i don't like is the hepatitis shots because the needle is so big and waiting for the plane to actually land...