Boxer Puppies

[MastiffCrazy10]

Show qual. beautiful Boxer puppies are for sale for around $800 in about a year, email me now for more info. Father is a show qual. winner AKC stud, sire of 2 litters already, Mother is a show qual. winner AKC bitch 1st litter will be this litter. Mother and Father both fawn. No not-registered colors expected. Possibly 1-2 white colored pups. Contact me [email protected] if interested.

[MastiffCrazy10]

PS. These are not my dogs-I just show the father so I am advertising the pups

[LuvGold00]

MastiffCrazy- I don't think this is the place to advertise puppies.

[luvofallhorses]

Originally posted by LuvGold00
MastiffCrazy- I don't think this is the place to advertise puppies.

I agree.

[Kfamr]

:(

[AllAmericanPUP]

How old are both these dogs? What health tests have been done?

[Bigyummydog]

Originally posted by LuvGold00
MastiffCrazy- I don't think this is the place to advertise puppies.

No it's not..............but, this is the place to show pics. Where's the puppies??????????? I wanna see..................

[PJ's Mom]

Originally posted by Bigyummydog
No it's not..............but, this is the place to show pics. Where's the puppies??????????? I wanna see..................

Barbra, you're hopeless. :D

$800 for a puppy. Imagine how many you could adopt from a shelter with that much money. :( :(

[GoldenRetrieverLover_01]

Let's not be too harsh...I don't think she knew she's not supposed to advertise pups here.

[GoldenRetrieverLover_01]

Originally posted by PJ's Mom
Barbra, you're hopeless. :D

$800 for a puppy. Imagine how many you could adopt from a shelter with that much money. :( :(

I think $800 is quite reasonable. In Canada puppies are anywhere from $200 to $1300. Buddy was about $1100.:D

[katienoonan]

I am intested in seeing pics. I love Boxer puppies, my neighbor got a pup from a boxer rescue and he was adorable.

[Suki Wingy]

As long as they have been tested, let the show world be, although maybe not if there might be some white. Isn't that a major fault? Other than that what are the boxer unregesterable colors?

[vinjashira]

Originally posted by MastiffCrazy10
Show qual. beautiful Boxer puppies are for sale for around $800 in about a year, email me now for more info. Father is a show qual. winner AKC stud, sire of 2 litters already, Mother is a show qual. winner AKC bitch 1st litter will be this litter. Mother and Father both fawn. No not-registered colors expected. Possibly 1-2 white colored pups. Contact me [email protected] if interested.
I don't get this... you are advertising puppies that are not even conceived yet.. but can predict what colours they are going to be and their quality?

[Suki Wingy]

Colors can be predicted through genetics. I have been reading up on it. I think he/she is trying to say both parents are show quality. Any whites will not be show quality and should be neutered or spayed.

[MastiffCrazy10]

I'm not advertising, i'm asking. The pups are not born yet. The mom is 1 years old and the dad is 3 years old

[tikeyas_mom]

1 year old is much to young to breed a female dog!!!
you should've waited till she was at least 3 years old older..
ugh...
Now she is more likely to have complications during birth..
wow... :(

this is horrible..

[PJ's Mom]

Originally posted by tikeyas_mom

this is horrible..

I agree. :(

[animal_rescue]

I don't think she is going to be bred for another year...

[vinjashira]

Originally posted by MastiffCrazy10
PS. These are not my dogs-I just show the father so I am advertising the pups
that's why I thought you were advertising the pups that are not even conceived yet :D
never mind...

[wolfie]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrieverLover_01
I think $800 is quite reasonable. In Canada puppies are anywhere from $200 to $1300. Buddy was about $1100.:D

Daphne was free.

[luvofallhorses]

Originally posted by PJ's Mom
I agree. :(

I agree, too! :(

[Suki Wingy]

the dog wasn't going to be bred until I got the impresson, next spring. That is still to young.

[CathyBogart]

Look, this forum is very avidly into rescue and controlling overpopulation of dogs in the pet trade. It is highly doubtful that you would find people here interested in buying puppies. The folks that frequent this forum for the most part either rescue or research breeders extensively before deciding to get a dog form them.

Perhaps you would get a better response if you said something like...

My friend Heather has some really precious Mini Aussies available. To learn something about her and see her little cuties check her website here: http://www.heatherlyaussies.com/placement.html (my friend Heather doesn't actually have any dogs available right now, but her dogs are worth looking at anyways, they're wonderful!)

You didn't provide any info about the breeder or the pups that will be available or (importantly, 'cause we love them! :) ) any pics of the parents.

Vinjashira: If you are familiar with genetics, you know that it is very possible to predict the colors of the puppies, although I don't like the possibility of white Boxers...isn't that a fault? I know with Mini Aussies, some breeders have had problems with the white genes causing MASSIVE health problems. It is also pretty safe to predict (assuming the genetic quality of both parents is known) the quality of pups that will be produced, although there are absolutely NO guarantees.

ETA: As a side note about the price...One rarely makes money breeding....if the pups are expensive (from a quality breeder) it is generally because of health screening. I would rather buy an expensive puppy whose parents have both had their eyes and hips screened than a cheap one whose parents weren't screened.

[*LabLoverKEB*]

:mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :(

[MastiffCrazy10]

It's not me that's breeding them, my brother is, and I tried to tell him that the mother was too young, but he wouldn't listen, it's not my fault.

[LuvGold00]

Originally posted by MastiffCrazy10
It's not me that's breeding them, my brother is, and I tried to tell him that the mother was too young, but he wouldn't listen, it's not my fault.

Didn't you say you show the father, do you own him too? Cause if you own him, you don't have to breed to this female if you know she's too young.

EDIT: And if you know she's too young, you shouldn't be advertising for him.

[MastiffCrazy10]

The father is not my dog.

[vinjashira]

Originally posted by CathyBogart
Vinjashira: If you are familiar with genetics, you know that it is very possible to predict the colors of the puppies, although I don't like the possibility of white Boxers...isn't that a fault? I know with Mini Aussies, some breeders have had problems with the white genes causing MASSIVE health problems. It is also pretty safe to predict (assuming the genetic quality of both parents is known) the quality of pups that will be produced, although there are absolutely NO guarantees.
well Cathy, I have always been interested in genetics and I read that two fawns bred together will always produce 100% fawn puppies (http://www.boxerrescue-la2ca.com/about_the_white_boxer.htm)

I disagree what you say about 2 show quality dogs breed together will produce show quality puppies. There could be some show quality puppies which you quire rightly said are not guaranteed to grow up to be show quality dogs, however some others from the same litter will not be categorised as show quality.

[Giselle]

To some degree, you're correct Vinjashira. The only thing is, flashy dog X flashy b*tch will oftentimes produce white dogs. Plain dog X plain b*tch will produce 100% colored dogs. If the dog and b*tch in question are flashy, then there is a fairly high incidence of white Boxer puppies. I don't remember much about Boxer breedings, but I'm pretty sure flashy X flashy breedings are highly guarded against.

At any rate, I don't agree with the ethics of this breeding and wanted to say: Just because YOU think a dog is show quality does not make it so. You say you're showing it, but where are the titles? Until you title (show and/or work) and health test, Don't Breed! Simple as that :)

P.S. I do agree, however, that show qual X show qual breedings don't necessarily bring about show qual puppies. There is a higher rate of show prospect puppies when born to proven parents, but there's an even higher chance of pet qual pups.

[Giselle]

Crab, I just re-read your first post. So they're fawn, right?

[wolfsoul]

I think you should tell your brother to wait until the female is atleast 2 years of age --- so maybe next fall instead of next spring. I believe that 28 months is the ideal, though I'm not sure. My breeder never breeds a dog unless they are over 28 months of age. Boxers often need C-sections -- if the female is bred too young, her pelvic bones won't be completely developed. Tell your brother he's looking at a $500-1000 C-section.

Giselle is right, only flashy boxers bred together will create whites. All flashies carry the white gene and will have 25% white pups in a litter together. If the dogs are both solid fawns, they will only produce fawns.

It's highly doubtful the puppies will be show quality. You might get one show quality puppy in the entire litter. There are some breeds where almost every dog from that breed is show quality -- boxers are most definatly NOT one of them. It's extremely hard to get a show quality boxer, and they are a very common breed.

[CathyBogart]

I never said that show quality x show quality = show quality puppies, just that it's safe to guess. Show quality parents have a better chance of producing show auality offspring than BYB parents, but nothing is 100% by any means.

[wolfsoul]

I know lol, I was referring to the "show quality puppies for sale." It just made it sound as if all of the puppies are going to be show quality.

[CathyBogart]

Aah. :)

[MastiffCrazy10]

Yes, they are both fawn

[vinjashira]

there shouldn't be any white puppies then

[wolfsoul]

Are they solid fawn? Or do they have any white markings?

[Bigyummydog]

Originally posted by PJ's Mom
Barbra, you're hopeless. :D

$800 for a puppy. Imagine how many you could adopt from a shelter with that much money. :( :(
Donna, I have no intention of ever "paying" for a puppy. Especially, someone just trying to make money. And from what I understand, aren't "real" breeders. :mad: We are definately going to get a shelter pup....when the time comes.

But, I can look can't I? :( (lip sticking out too)