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Edwina's Secretary
08-03-2005, 01:20 PM
I just read this last night....in the U.S. a woman is more likely to be killed by her partner than by a terrorist!
When will the government do something about this? I can think of many things the government could do to stop this!
Can you?
Pit Chick
08-03-2005, 02:04 PM
Our government is more concerned with cracking down on drugs than domestic violence, rapists or pedafiles.
In their quest to make our "streets safe from drugs" they ignore the other problems that are really hurting innocent people. I say let people do all the drugs they want, they're only "hurting" themselves.
JenBKR
08-03-2005, 03:33 PM
Wow that's really scary. It's a shame that something isn't done about that, criminals have more rights than victims!
Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
When will the government do something about this? I can think of many things the government could do to stop this!
Can you?
No I can't really. As an avid viewer of Court TV and Forensic Files, etc. it seems to me that most of these homicides are done in the *heat of passion.* How would you know where to start? :confused:
catnapper
08-03-2005, 06:37 PM
The problem with domestic violence is women are often afraid to press charges and hold to it. They lie and deny it. Without the main person working with the authorities, there's not much they can do.
Tubby & Peanut's Mom
08-03-2005, 07:46 PM
As an addition to Catnapper's post, the problem with domestic violence is that too many women put up with it. With all the women's lib and the strides that women have made in equality since the 60's and 70's, the fact is we are still too submissive and willing to take whatever men dish out. Part of the reason those who are abused put up with it is because they are afraid of what the husband/boyfriend will do to them if they leave, and often that's exactly when the killing occurs - after the woman has left - but also because so many of us are still so financially dependent on men, especially when children are involved. It's a sad, sad situation that is not going to improve until women stand up for themselves and decide they aren't going to take it anymore.
Scooby4
08-03-2005, 07:50 PM
Women don't report domestic violence or stick by their stories when they do experience abuse. The cops are usually male that respond to the situation. The women are so violated and abused but dependent on the person who did the abuse. It is even worse when children are involved.
I was in a situation of abuse. It surprised me to realize I was in an abusive relationship and my options on getting out. Calling the police was a joke:mad: !!! They don't listen and look at the woman as it is her fault.:rolleyes: :mad: Unfornately, the stereotype of a domestic violence shelter is often low class seriously abused women with little self esteem left.
Domestic violence doesn't need the government involved in correcting it. It needs the services already involved in dealing with the situations to run and react better. It shouldn't have to require a woman to leave her home or her job. There should be a whole department set up just to respond to domestic situations with professionally trained personnel. The police have to respond to soo many variety of calls that when it comes to a domestic violence calls they can get numb.
I also encourage anyone who knows anyone in a possible abusive relationship, to let that person know you will be there for them if they decide to leave. Often, you must leave ALL your friends to get out. That may be the hardest part of all. To have to leave everything behind to live.:cool:
Karen
08-03-2005, 08:07 PM
Many communities have little or no enforcement of restraining orders in Domestic Violence cases. Who would want to get a restraining order when you know that will only make the abuser angrier, and no one is willing to enforce it? Quincy, MA, for example, has a very good DV policy and strict enforcement of restraining orders, and takes DV seriously.
Women who work up the courage to try escaping DV need a huge amount of support - a place to stay that will take her and her children, one that the abuser does not know exists and cannot find, help getting kids into a different school if possible, help healing physical and emotional scars enough to find a job, then finding a place to live. Often when a woman leaves that kind of situation, she leaves with nothing but the clothes on her back. She may face condemnation from her own family, as well as any mutual friends the couple had ...
It is a brutally difficult situation.
lizbud
08-04-2005, 10:58 AM
Other than making domestic violence a federal offense, no I
can't think of any other federal role to play.
robinh
08-04-2005, 12:02 PM
I too, was a victim of DV. Thank god my family took me in a hid me for 2 weeks until I could go to court. I left behind everything. I left the house in what I had on and that was it. My in-laws had my son and refused to give him to me. It was awful. Took a couple of days for them to relinquish him.
I know how hard it is to get out. It's hard to explain to people why you stay. There are no easy answers to the problem.
:(
Pit Chick
08-04-2005, 02:09 PM
I feel so lucky to have a man that would never lift a finger to me, even though I've slapped him a couple of times.:o He tells me he would never hit me and "I say that's good, cause if you do, as soon as I get up off the floor I'm coming after you".
Being raised with two older brothers I had to take a lot of sibling poundings to keep up with the big boys, so it's just instinct for me to go into a fist throwing rage if I'm hurt. I may be little, but I can pack a powerful punch with my boney knuckles. :D
Thank God for older brothers.
My advise for abused women....hit back, fight dirty. ;)
Laura's Babies
08-07-2005, 05:37 PM
I think that no matter WHO is beaten up or WHO does it, it should be treated the same as if it was done by a stranger. Violence is violence and you are none the less beaten up or dead if the person who does it is your spouse, partner or family member. Severe beatings should be called what it is ...."attempted murder" and treated as such.
It will continue until the punishment is worse than the actual crime itself. NO ONE should have to live in fear and the idea that it makes a person look so "manly" or "macho" is stupid.
Young people in school need to be taught the signs to look for so they can avoid these people. I learned in my early teens and I stayed clear of those people all of my life.
RICHARD
08-07-2005, 08:52 PM
All AH's who resort to violence are terrorists.
Think about it....
Just the thought of having someone smack you around is terrorism, isn't it??
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I think that people have to put more thought into getting married, living together etc....
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I saw a public service announcement late last night on the TV.
It showed a young lady being berated by a man....
He is telling her, in a way too vicious way, that her skirt and top are not appropriate.
This dude is being really harsh with the gal....the commercial ends with the organization's name and WWW site....
When I figured out the commercial and the purpose I was struck by one thing.....
And it was the way that the gal was dressed...
Has anyone seen this commercial and know who sponsored it??
Thanks....
jesse_3
08-08-2005, 03:04 PM
That is terrifying, and sad:( I think that the Gov. should do something about this instead of spending more time on the outside world, and focus more on their people and our planet!
Steph and Jes
Vio&Juni
08-08-2005, 04:35 PM
I think that the prosecution has to press charges in cases like this, without waiting for the victim to press charges, that's how men (women in some cases!) know that they can control the victim. If they knew that it's not only up to ther partner to start the process, but they could be charged anyway, they would be a bit more careful. I think money should be invested in some social services that would deal with this.
I always think of "Angel Eyes" when it comes to domestic violence and I think that is a good movie, where one that has been through scenes of domestic violence, can feel the pain under everyone's mask. I have not spoken or visited my dad for more than 2.5 years to make him understand that there is a wrong way and there is a right way and I am not willing to accept the wrong way. Luckily, he understood. Late, but not too late. There is a long vicious cicle one family goes through when domestic violence is present - it affects your children, your grandchildren, and greatgrandchildren and so on. It is a long history of violence and submission that has to break at one point. Children must not be exposed to this, otherwise little girls will grow to be just like their moms, to accept it. Really, to ACCEPT it as normal. My father's father was violent, his grandfather was violent. Maybe it was ok for ages of women, it shouldn't be. Now, women getting more power and more independence continue this pattern of violence against their husbands and partners. This is a big problem everywhere, laws are not perfect, but say it, Robinh, wasn't it worth it? Wasn't it worth it to go through some problems to get OUT? Everyone deserves to live his/her own life without violence, fear, bruises, and humiliation.
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