Very Disturbing Dog Food Study

[dukedogsmom]

I can't believe they were allowed to do this. This is an old study. Wonder if it's still occuring? That is so wrong.
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/dfchart.htm
I used to feed Duke Pedigree a long time ago, too. Thank goodness his food now isn't on there. The drugs came from euthanised animals, supposedly.

[finn's mom]

I'm reading it, but, what's pentobarbital?

I wouldn't feed any of those on the lists, if I were to feed a dog processed food, anyway...but, I'm still interested in hearing about the drug. :)

[Lady's Human]

Phenobarbitol is a depressant drug.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by Lady's Human
Phenobarbitol is a depressant drug.

Is that the same as pentobarbital? I'd heard of phenobarbitol, but, thought what they were talking about was something different. Is it just a typo on the study, then?

Just looked up pentobarbital....

"a granular barbiturate C11H18N2O3 used especially in the form of its sodium or calcium salt as a sedative, hypnotic, and antispasmodic "

and, phenobarbitol....

"A sedating medication used to control seizures"

I guess they're not the same drug, but, similar results from taking them.....I was about to disregard that entire study if they couldn't even spell the drug correctly. ;)

[Lady's Human]

That's what I get for reading a thread after 8 hours at work...LOL...

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by Lady's Human
That's what I get for reading a thread after 8 hours at work...LOL...

ha ha, funny.....yeah, don't operate heavy machinery either.....I used to always feel drugged after a day of work. blech.

[wolfsoul]

Pentobarbital and phenobarbital are both used to put animals to sleep. The thing is, when you find it in dog food, you know it came from a euthanised dog or cat. They don't use either of these on livestock. It's too expensive.

The study is old though -- since Nutro was alerted of the problem, they got everything under control and there is no more pento in their food. Pedigree on the other hand does have it. They are now famous for putting euthanised pets in their foods.

[moosmom]

Phenobarbital is a drug used to control seizures.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by moosmom
Phenobarbital is a drug used to control seizures.

Yeah, I'd already posted the definition, cuz I didn't know what they were....but, are you saying that because it's not used in euthanasia? I have heard from a couple people now, that it is....

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by finn's mom
Yeah, I'd already posted the definition, cuz I didn't know what they were....but, are you saying that because it's not used in euthanasia? I have heard from a couple people now, that it is....
It is also used for euthanasia. :) In small doses it can help with seizures, severe head pain, etc, but in large doses it kills. I do believe that it is the most common drug used for euthanasia.

[Suki Wingy]

I never have considered feeding any of the brands on that list.

[DJFyrewolf36]

That is disgusting...I mean really. Somehow it makes me ill to think that my dog could potentially be ingesting the remains of an euthinized animal.

[lv4dogs]

WOW, nutro premium showed up, I feed Nutro natural choice for large breeds. I wonder if all nutro products have that ingredient?
I'm going to have to look into that.

There was an article in our local paper about a mans dog who was cremated. Well he later found out that the remains were used for glue & animal feeds. This was just recently. I'm going to see if I can find it on the online paper at all.
It is scary & sad.

[finn's mom]

Originally posted by lv4dogs
WOW, nutro premium showed up, I feed Nutro natural choice for large breeds. I wonder if all nutro products have that ingredient?
I'm going to have to look into that.

There was an article in our local paper about a mans dog who was cremated. Well he later found out that the remains were used for glue & animal feeds. This was just recently. I'm going to see if I can find it on the online paper at all.
It is scary & sad.

Wolfsoul mentioned that the study is old and that Nutro doesn't have that pentobarbitol in the food anymore....

[lv4dogs]

Originally posted by finn's mom
Wolfsoul mentioned that the study is old and that Nutro doesn't have that pentobarbitol in the food anymore....

Thanks. My mind is elsewhere today, lol

[dukedogsmom]

What I don't understand is how were they ever allowed to do that in the first place? Especially without consumer's knowlege? It really chaps my a**!!

[caseysmom]

Its all about big companies and big money.

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by dukedogsmom
What I don't understand is how were they ever allowed to do that in the first place? Especially without consumer's knowlege? It really chaps my a**!!
There are no laws that regulate what goes into pet food -- you can literally throw poison in pet food (which is routinely done -- ethoxyquin is a poison and is commonly used in pet foods), and it's not illegal. That's why so many companies get away with putting euthanised pets and roadkill in their food. Just because a food is AAFCO approved, does not mean it's good. All AAFCO does is make sure the food has so much protien and so much fat to make it edible (which is very innaccurate considering the amount of undigestible vegetable protien, not to mention how little vitamins are left after overprocessing the food). You're right caseysmom, it's all about profit. It's quite sad.

[gemini9961]

Well after reading this, what is the best food to feed a dog?? I didn't see Eukanuba on the list, is it still okay?? What about Nutro Maxx? I am searching for a new dog food for my 2 but after hearing all the horror stories how am I to choose a food that's healthy and safe?

[gemini9961]

Originally posted by gemini9961
Well after reading this, what is the best food to feed a dog?? I didn't see Eukanuba on the list, is it still okay?? What about Nutro Maxx? I am searching for a new dog food for my 2 but after hearing all the horror stories how am I to choose a food that's healthy and safe?

PM me with answers, as I may forget to check this thread. I have a hard time remembering where I have posted questions. :(

[IRescue452]

I'll be glad when I switch to homemade dog food. I don't even trust the brands that you guys on pt are so fond of. Sorry but I don't think that they tell the truth or only use good ingredients. Iams and Nutro and Chicken Soup are all on the same wagon with Pedigree and all the cheap brands. I don't really even trust the meat they sell in stores for people because American standards for meat products are not very good. I'm surprised that you guys are still shocked by these findings. How long have rendering plants been making pet foods?