What angers you most about your dog behavior [Archive]

purrley

01-29-2002, 06:53 AM

This morning is a really bad morning:( :( I'm trying to break Tess (my Chihuahua) from getting into the litter box. A couple weeks ago she got a real swat on the rear from getting into the box and I think it surprised her that I would swat her. Havent had any trouble again until this morning. I turned my back and noticed she was chewing on something - I smelled her breath and that told the tale. I was so mad I almost did something really stupid and that's really hitting her:( :( . I scolded her and put her in her crate (another thing I didn't want to do is make her think her crate was a place for punishment), but I had to get her away from me because I was so angry. Does anyone else have feelings like this. Now I'm at work, feeling really guilty and I want to go home and love her. I think I know how to fix the problem with the cat box for good, but I was hoping she'd just give it up. Hopefully eventually she's stay out of the cat poop, such a disgusting thing - why do dogs do that - Carrie - why do dogs like to eat disgusting things?????

mary_jsn

01-29-2002, 09:56 AM

My dog used to do the same thing. he once ate poo. I don't see any point of punishing Tess as she was exploring, tasting a lot of things. Who hasn't anyways had the thought of touching human poop? (Gross!) My dog ate poo once and then he never ever ate again. Just when you see her eating poop tell her a big loud NO! And stay away from her. This will get Tess to socialize that eating poo means punishment and you staying away from her. Don't worry, it's a dogs nature.:rolleyes:

Dixieland Dancer

01-29-2002, 11:04 AM

Last night I took Dixie to agility class and she acted like she had never been around other dogs. She wanted to smell all the dogs butts. She is normally not like this so I was very frustrated that she wouldn't listen and wanted to shake her. She was oblivious to my anger too which made me even more mad.

I ignored her after class until it was time to go to bed. After I cooled down and thought about the situation, I realize she was probably checking all the dogs out to see if any were her puppies. This is the first night we were back in agility class since her birthday party! :rolleyes: I'm sure we will have a better experience next time!

carrie

01-29-2002, 11:39 AM

We have all felt like that at sometime!!!!

The trick is to realise it only brings feelings of guilt and achieves very little - easier to say than do! Give yourself a break, we all have bad days.

As for eating poo....youwill never be able to keep her out of the litter box - it is a natural behaviour and she can't help herself. The easiest thing to do is move it to where she can't get at it.

There are a couple of reasons that dogs eat disgusting things. For some it is a learned behaviour. As pups they see their mother cleaning up the nest area by eating the debris (poo, really). It is partly instinctive as wolves are in danger of loosing pups if the nest isn't kept clean. It also aids a wild canid to eat anything that is edible - poo is only digested food and will still have some nutritional value, as will horse poo and cow poo and sheep poo -Paddy's favourites! It may also supply the dog with information about prey animals in the area. Cat poo seems to be very tasty indeed - probably due to the highly flavoured food that cats are fed. Unlike cats, the dog family are not pure meat eaters and eat a variety of less yukky things too - wolves will eat herbs, berries and fish....anything that's going!

purrley

01-29-2002, 11:47 AM

Thank you Carrie for your reply. I really feel bad about getting so mad at her this morning. This is the first dog I've had and it's hard for me to get used to this. There isn't anything Tess could do to make me more angry than this. Your right, the best thing to do is keep her away from the cat box and I've done that, except this a.m. I wasn't watching her as closely as I usually do. It isn't her fault and I realize that. I don't think this will make me as angry again as it did today, hopefully I can keep her out of it for good. I just can't wait to get home and give her loves. Just hope the litter breath will have worn off by the time I get home cause I'm bound to get a lot of puppy kisses:) I have to be honest and say I don't think I'll ever have another dog, cats are much cleaner by nature it seems.

RachelJ

01-29-2002, 11:55 AM

I really have to say at this point in time there isn't anything that angers me about either of my dogs behavior. That is to say, we've come a long way baby because I've been at that stage many times early on. I suppose if Hannah ever got out of the yard and took off again, I'd be angry. We are so very careful that she just hasn't had the opportunity and the last time she did do it, she really didn't go that far (just across the street) and came back on her own fairly quickly. So even that behavior has improved from the time she went for blocks and blocks with us in hot pursuit (early in the morning through the back yards :o)

Having had dogs who reliably came when called, this is the behavior I most wish I could have with Hannah. Tucker is a pretty good kid, despite a rare poop in house.

lizbud

01-29-2002, 11:58 AM

AHHHHHHHHHH PURRLEY, ,
What you just said, & on the Dog board too. LOL. LOL.
Sure hope the rest of your day goes better for you !!! Liz.

purrley

01-29-2002, 12:00 PM

Rachel - I keep Tess on a leash at all times now, but I must say when I first got her and took her out for potty without a leash, she took off and wouldn't come to me. I was chasing up the street in my jammies and huge Snow Leopard slippers:D :D . I know she'd run from me if a gave her the chance, by no means to we have the " come " command down.

purrley

01-29-2002, 12:02 PM

WHOOP's Liz Bud - forgot where I was:D :D I just feel that way today - tomorrow, who knows, I might be in the market for several more dogs (but I don't think so:D :D ).

Freckles

01-29-2002, 12:30 PM

Found this on a past topic about kitty litter. Might be helpful.
CleverCatBox (http://www.clevercatbox.com/)

If that doesn't work, maybe setting it atop a wooden footstool, etc. Shouldn't need to be too high to keep a Chi out.

purrley

01-29-2002, 12:32 PM

Thanks Freckles - my cats would never use it - they're used to the open boxes and a certain cat litter - changing their routine would only cause cat problems, but thanks for the thought:)

LoudLou

01-29-2002, 12:53 PM

We had this same problem with Louie. I solved it by going to a thrift store and buying an old endtable cabinet type thing. Pryed the top off and put the litter box inside now they have there own private "Kitty Komode". We have access but Louie does not and since it's outta sight,... it seems to be outta mind. :D

purrley

01-29-2002, 12:55 PM

Lou - INGENIOUS!!!!!;)

Logan

01-29-2002, 01:42 PM

Purrley, I had the same problem before, not only with the litter box, but with cat food on the floor. I used a baby gate across the door. Low enough that the cats could easily get over, but the dogs couldn't. Have I suggested that before? As I'm saying it, I'm thinking I did and you told me your cats wouldn't jump the gate....sorry if I'm repeating myself!! :o

purrley

01-29-2002, 01:57 PM

That OK Logan - and yep I said my cats wouldn't jump the gate. Anything different in their routine would be a problem for me and I have one dog, but 4 cats. I'll just have to be more deligent in making sure Tess doesn't get in the cat room and curb my anger in the meantime - can't wait to get home to love her today!!!!!

carrie

01-29-2002, 03:17 PM

Don't give up on the dogs just yet!!!

Trust me - cats are NOT cleaner - they just hide it better and do the digusting stuff with a little more grace!

Really, stop beating yourself up about it - you live and learn. If mistakes were never made none of us would ever learn anything new.

Pam

01-29-2002, 03:29 PM

There are two things that I would love to be able to improve on with Bella. First off is her digging. She is most often likely to dig right after a rain! :( You can imagine how she looks when she appears at the door and wants to come in. The only way around this is to watch her the whole time she's out and correct her immediately when she starts to dig. Unfortunately in really heavy rain I don't always do that so I pay the price.

Secondly, she has "selective hearing." Most of the time when she is in the yard and I call her she will come. The times when she turns a deaf ear to me is when there is an interesting critter slinking around in the woods behind our fence and she feels the need to bark at it. This worries me when I let her out late at night or really early in the morning since I would like my neighbors to continue to like me! :) When she ignores me then I have to go out into the yard to get her and sometimes I am in pj's. :o

Pakarinen

01-29-2002, 03:40 PM

We had a problem with our lab Chester when he was a pup, he ate his own poo, right after he'd taken a poo, it was so disgusting, he then wanted to come and give you kisses of course and I would yell at him and ouch him away. As he got a little older he stopped and he doesn't touch the cat liter.

Cincy'sMom

01-29-2002, 03:46 PM

Cincy is going through a major digging stage right now. It is most frustrating when she is starts digging under the air conditioner or near the fence..places she could get hurt or catch her collar and get stuck. What is worse, is once you catch her and call her to you, she runs the other way. Any other time she does really great with come, even though she is only four months. We are trying to be patient with her learning, some days it is very frustrating.

jennifert

01-29-2002, 04:26 PM

I'm never really MAD (like this :mad: mad) at Duncan. I get upset with him sometimes but he doesn't make me angry. I try to remember that he doesn't do these things intentionally to make me mad. He does them because it's his instinct or he is bored and looking for something to do or a million other reasons. But, one thing I remind mself all the time is that, although we attach reasons and excuses to their behavior, they themselves do not have that ability and are not doing it for that reason. Do you know what I mean? For example, I'm working right now on tryng to break Duncan of destroying the house if I leave him out of his crate while I am at work. He runs around and rips things up for the first 15 minutes after I leave. Now, it would seem like he does this because he's angry that I left him but really he is stressed out and that's how he is venting. I'm upset that my house is destroyed, along with some of my belongings but not angry at Duncan. (My roommate on the other hand, is ANGRY :mad: !!!;) ) I get upset when he leaps on the front door and barks at the neighbor, I get upset when he tries to escape out the front door, I get upset when he gets out and runs in the road, I get upset when he tries to climb in the front seat of my little Honda while I'm driving...(Actually, that is sometimes funny!! :) If there are no other cars around...:) ) Anyway, I can't imagine getting mad at him, like really mad! Collins' roommate, that Duncan has bitten a few times, said that he was mad at Duncan and I just don't get it!! Why waste your energy being angry at a dog who doesn't know why you're angry and could care less that you're flashing them dirty looks! That's the difference between people and animals: people can reason and hold grudges and animals don't. Half of the abuse in this world could probably be avoided if people realized that the world does not revolve around the human species!!!!!!! Purrley, I am not all all saying or trying to imply that you abuse Tess in any way shape or form!!!! I know you love Tess and are very good with her while you're learning how to be a great dog mom!! Angry isn't really what you were, you were upset and frustrated, that's all. That happens to every single pet owner in the entire universe!! Just try to laugh a little at the situation!! Tess is a little girl right? Then imagine her with trying to get all "prettied up" with her stinky breath!!!??? Then you'll laugh at her!! And then try to train them not to do what it is they are doing... OR avoid the situation by moving the litter box. Duncan ate my very expensive favortie pair of shoes last night. But it was my fault since I fell asleep at 7:30 w/o taking him for his evening run. He was in the house all day, bored and then I come home and went to sleep?!? He HAD to find something to do!! ;) :D Anyway, you're doing fine! Hang in there!
I wish I had an answer to the litter box problem for you but I don't have any cats! My advice would be to yell NO at her when she goes near it. Or move it!!:)

C.C.'s Mom

01-30-2002, 05:39 AM

Oh, I've got a complete list of behavioral problems...

1. Digging. She turned our backyard into a battlefield and I'm still seeing dark clouds when I even think of reshaping her garden design. When we go to the dog park, she starts to dig and she won't come when I call her. It freaks me out, even though I call her while holding her favorite snack: dried catfood.

2. Eating catfood. We've got an open plan house and baby gates are no option as we would need about 10 or so lined up next to each other. Now the cats eat supervised on the kitchen counter.

3. Pee when dad comes home. Still can't control her bladder when he hero returns home from work. And the worst is: she'll quickly refill her 'tank' when she hears the gate opens and knows he'll be inside within a minute!

4. Sleeping in bed. As soon as we're in deep sleep, she crawls silently into our bed, snuggles up between us with her head on my pillow. She has puppy breath and snores.

5. Destroying mom's books. I read a lot and sometimes I forget my book on the couch or on the table. When I return I find Cookie on the sofa covered in little pieces.

6. Running away. This started last week and it seems like she's gotten into adolescense. She ran out of the front door, jumped over the gate, raced over the street (lots of traffic as we live near the town center) and wouldn't come back and kept running. Thankfully the cars stopped until I was able to catch her (in my dressing gown!!!) :eek:

Thank God she stays away from the cat litter box now.

purrley

01-30-2002, 06:52 AM

Thanks everyone for the reply on this topic. Yesterday was just as Jennifert said - very frustrating. And no - I don't think I abuse Tess and I would never do that no matter what she did. I just have to get used to the idea that she's a dog and she's not doing her doggie things to intentionally upset me and I need to learn to see the humor in all that goes on. Yep - I'm learning - first dog experience and this a.m. everything went really well. Tess was kept away from the litter box, she asked to go potty a couple times and I left with a much happier attitude. Besides when I get upset it only causes me a problem. Tess doesn't care bless her heart. Tess is 4 months old and I think she's starting to teeth - she chews on everything she can get her little paws on (except the chew toys I bought for her:D ). She's got 3 nylabones that she'll chew on, but given half the chance she goes for electrical cords, shoes, socks, cloths and even chews on Braydee (my 1 year old tabby). I understand this is just a phase and it will stop eventually I HOPE!!!!. Anyway thanks everyone for the re-enforcement - we'll make it;)

joycenalex

01-30-2002, 06:54 AM

alex is very very food motivated. he has never missed a meal in the almost 6 years we've been together.what makes me the most angry at alex is when we're out walking or at the park is when he eats anything that is remotely or was formerly edible; tossed away bones, rotten food, cat poop. he has gotten a couple cases of gastritis and since his epilepsy medicine is time sensitive and given in food, when he has gastritis, it makes that balance much harder to get. i can stop him while he's on leash, but off leash and a call of "drop! what are you eating?" does not mean "chew faster":rolleyes:
i realize that he is a dog and the urge to forage will never be overriden even though he is well fed.
he hasn't chewed anything in the house in years, he rarely messes in the house, so i know i have a lot to be happy about, but the off leash eating really does bother me.

Dixieland Dancer

01-30-2002, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by C.C.'s Mom
Oh, I've got a complete list of behavioral problems...

4. Sleeping in bed. As soon as we're in deep sleep, she crawls silently into our bed, snuggles up between us with her head on my pillow. She has puppy breath and snores.

Thank God she stays away from the cat litter box now.

C.C.'s Mom,
Do you mean you actually don't like PUPPY BREATH. Personally, I don't see a problem with your number 4. LOL :rolleyes: LOL
I love it when they snuggle but I guess I could do without the snoring!

C.C.'s Mom

01-30-2002, 08:54 AM

Dixieland Dancer, the description puppy breath sounds very harmless, hehe! It would be nice if the doggy toothpaste came with menthol, but no..... beef taste!

sabies

01-30-2002, 11:52 AM

Everyone has bad days especially with young dogs. Sadie used to do it all - dig, runaway, roll in bird/animal poop but over time she grew out of some stuff and I learned how to prevent undesirable behavior. For example - she gets a certain look and/or posture when she is about to roll in a smell, and I can spot it a mile away and yell "no!" - and she knows I mean it.

It just takes a while for dogs and owners to really know each other!

evelyn1157

01-30-2002, 10:18 PM

the things that zoey does that frustates me are:
1) eat her own poo- she knows she's not suppose to do that coz that would mean punishment so she only does it when she knows i'm not looking or when she runs upstairs knowing i'm downstairs.
2)doesn't eat her own food-but she'll wait patiently in front of someone who is eating even when she knows that she won't get any.
3)bathing time- she struggles when i bathe her and tries to attack my hair dryer when i dry her.
4)running away-when she see's me holding the tweezers to pluck her ear hair or cotton bud to clean her ears
5)she'll urine and poo outside her 'toilet space' when i', not looking
that's abt all i can think of at the moment

jackiesdaisy1935

01-31-2002, 05:01 PM

I can honestly say I never get angry at either of our Schnauzers.
I would like a few changes but nothing earthshaking.

"I would love it if Daisy would come to me just one time on the first call, instead of licking her butt, getting a toy, stopping by her Dads, licking her feet a couple of times and then coming to me."
second
"I would like it if Perry would kiss on the cheek, instead of flicking out his tongue for a kiss right when you are going to say something and he gets you in the mouth."

That's not too much to ask, do you think?
Jackie

RachelJ

01-31-2002, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by jackiesdaisy1935
"I would love it if Daisy would come to me just one time on the first call, instead of licking her butt, getting a toy, stopping by her Dads, licking her feet a couple of times and then coming to me."
second

Jackie, that is so funny. Daisy and Hannah..if it wasn't how they looked, I'm sure we could switch these two and not tell the difference.

yorkster

01-31-2002, 07:20 PM

What (used to ) frustrate me the most with my dog Scout, is when I adopted her at 3 yrs. old, I found out she was not housebroken :eek:
It was a LONG battle to get her there: 'accidents' daily at first, then 2 x a week, then once a week, etc.
I could never get her to understand until I actually caught her in the act. I even did the bad 'rub her nose near it' thing :( when I got to my wits end. I felt that all I did for at least 2 months was clean dog pee AND poop. Went through alot of Natures Miracle!

Well, today she is fabulous in the house, however it took 2-3 months to get her there. :) :D

Now, her thing is the getting into the cat box for kitty tootsie-rolls! It's not a good thing, but I don't think it is horrible either- dogs just DO EAT gross things. Fact of life.
I would prefer she did not do it, and I try and watch her, but it still just happens................I just don't let her give me a kiss for awhile!:D :D :D

It is much better than when she was not housebroken. Almost anything is better than that!

purrley

02-01-2002, 06:41 AM

:D :D Yorkster. Tess is 4 Mos. old and about 85% housebroken. I say 85% because Tess is not at all patient, when she has to go, she has to go and I better be on my toes to see the squiggley, wiggley body language or else!!! Yesterday she had a poo accident on the carpet. I was upstairs cleaning her crate. Not a good thing, but not a disaster either. The food I feed her keeps those little pooies nice and firm and easy to pick up, but I don't like her doing it none the less. The cat litter thing is another story, that DOES MAKE ME ANGRY, worse than pooing in the house. I guess its because it's so disgusting and since this is my pet peeve, I go to GREAT lengths to keep her out of it:p

yorkster

02-01-2002, 05:48 PM

Purrley- Maybe you could put the cat box in a room and have a cat-flap door put in the door? I am thinking about it mainly because Scout goes in and raids the cat food quite often. :(

It sonds like Tess is doing pretty good with being house-broken. She is still young.

lizbud

02-01-2002, 06:06 PM

Purrley,

Hello, just wanted to ask what type of pet was your
first pet, Cat or Dog, (other) ? Also have you ever had
cats & dogs at the same time before ? Asking b/c my dog
Bud went after "cat crunchies" long before I ever had
kitties. He would find it outside in the yard, or on walks.
While it is gross to our minds, Dogs Love IT....That fact
will never change... I think my own worst pet peeve would
be having a dog that ate it's own poo.I know it happens
with some dogs(not mine thank heavens), but I would
probably find that habit to be one I could not live with,
and try really hard to change the dog's mind about...

KYS

02-01-2002, 06:14 PM

Well, I wasn't going to post on this subject,
but yesturday I got a bit sad/mad.

1) The number one dog behavior that I truely dislike
is that Rocky is dog aggressive with strange dogs.

2) The 2nd one is that he catches and kills wild
little animals.
I found a plump dead squirrel in the back yard yesturday.
I do not know how he catches a fast squirrel but it
make me so sad. None of my other dogs
have ever had a strong prey drive like he does. : (

I can't think of any real bad habits for Sheba.
Pepper is pushy and a begger. :)

Mocha

02-11-2002, 10:54 AM

Hi everyone :) I'm new to this forum even though I've been visiting the site for almost 2yrs now (I think) :) Anyway, I was reading this thread and yes, my dog eats kitty litter too, even though he doesn't eat the poo. What he does is pick grains of litter off the floor and chew them, which makes me so mad but I can't seem to do anything about it. He just threw up yesterday because of eating cat litter though... I hope this will stop him!;)

purrley

02-11-2002, 01:48 PM

Lizbud - my first pet that I can remember was a cat. I grew up around cats (mainly Siamese) and I have 2 Siamese cats now. My dog is the first one that I can remember having. I did have one when I was 10 or 11 and I do remember him, but my parents were the main care givers. Tess (my Chi) is a challenge, but as the days go by we're getting to know each better all the time.:)

lizbud

02-13-2002, 05:40 PM

Purrley,

Hi. Thanks for answering the "is this your first dog?"
question. I grew up with no animals in the house,
but made Friends with every single stray cat & dog
within a 2 block area of my home much to my Mother's
dismay... I'd sneak them into the house every chance
I got...LOL.

Anyway, just wanted to say I'm glad that you & Tess
are getting to know each other so well. Liz.

Crikit

02-13-2002, 10:06 PM

Hmmm let me think about this, it's different with both dogs. What sort of makes me mad about Smudge and don't get me wrong I love him to death is
1.He doesn't always come when he's called (We're working on that, actually just finished a class that worked on his attention and his recalls it helped a lot)
2.When we're at trials if my dad's there he'll run off the course to hide behind him, nerves I guess but it can be really frustrating and embarassing.
3.doesn't know that no means no at least when it comes to playing with Winter.

Of course with Smudge I have to remember that we did sort of rescue him and he has some issues still, of course they aren't as bad as when we first got him. Now with Winter there's a whole different set of issues.
1.Eats poop and then tries to kiss me, she actually tried to bring it in the house one time.
2.Will start to bark at Smudge if he gets to excited, I know it's her instinct to do that but it makes my mom mad and can get just plan annoying.
3.Constantly wants to be petted or kiss me...or anyone for that matter.
I think there's another one or two for her but it's the same thing I just have to remember some of her history and then I calm down.

Crikit

purrley

02-14-2002, 06:25 AM

:D :D Crikit - Welcome to Pet Talk. Smudge sounds like a normal all around doggie. The poop thing makes me laugh because that's my biggest peeve with my Tess - so far she's just preferred cat poop but last night she went after her own:( :( I was hoping this wouldn't happen, now I gotta watch her really close at potty time.

mary_jsn

02-14-2002, 04:07 PM

Welcome to pet talk crikit, I know the poop thing is really embarrasing. Thank god Leika doesn't do that. What she did do today that really freaked me out was that she startes smelling a female dog while she was peeing if she had come a little closer she would have had pee on her face!
Crikit, My last dog Ringo was worse than smudge he would run away and when I would chase him he kept running away. He also used to jump at me and do you know what it's like to have a Labrador standing on your shoulders that wights more that 30 kg!?.
I'm so sorry Purrley that Tess eats cat poop, just keep an eye on her. Maybe she's hungry enogh to eat poop!!! LOL just joking. ;)

Crikit

02-14-2002, 07:03 PM

Well Smudge was a heck of a lot worse when we first got him which was about two years ago. We think the people we got him from abused him or something like that because he had some issues, still does but they aren't as bad. But what do you expect from a dog that had like three or four owners by the time he was four months old (that's when I got him) So after dealing with the seperation anxiety the extreme mistrust of strangers the fear of people in winter coats and stuff like that we have it down to just the two or three issues left. Though he still has the seperation anxiety but usually only when we're in strange places which I really don't blame him for because well I'd probably do the same thing ;)

Winter on the other hand you can leave any place as long as it doesn't have a lot of people or loud noises, those two things get to her. We think it has something to do with the fact that someone (not the owners before us but the people that they rescued her from, the previous owners just had to many dogs and thought it would be better for her to leave the hectic house) locked her in the garage because she was the runt of the litter.

Oooo pups supper time...

Crikit

P.S. thanks for the welcomes

AdoreMyDogs

02-14-2002, 07:20 PM

Honestly, nothing angers me about Graham's behaviors.

By the way, welcome, Crikit :) I hope you enjoy this site as much as I do! Be prepared to get VERY addicted :)

felinequine

02-20-2002, 07:33 PM

I think what bugs me about Daphie Doo is she's sneaky.It matches her looks though- shes shaped like a weasel. She slithers into the kitchen late at night and knocks over the trash that's on top of the garbage and pulls it down...We make her goe outside (which she hates to do at night) and she KNOWS not to, but she does it anyway. and she sneaks downstairs and eats cat poo....But she makes me more angry at the fact that she sneaks and does it and knows not to, not as much as her actually doing it...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

NICHOLLE1978

02-27-2002, 12:41 AM

My two year old dog eevee use to do the same thing. She was queen of eating poop. My vet suggested I get some yummy liver and with gloved hands pick out a fresh poop in the litter box, let her smell it and place it on top of the litter. When your dog goes for the poop tell him/her to "leave it" or "Dont touch" in a controlled voice and give the dog a piece of liver. Any time you see your dog near somthing that should not be touched say leave it and give a good tasty treat or fav. toy. Otherwise your dog could be a little hungry. Cat poop contains a lot of undigested food that is why it is so tasty. Thank god eevee is litter poop free for months now.

Yea.

I hope this helps you

Nicholle

There is hope for your baby. And trust me I know it is disgusting.

aly

02-27-2002, 03:56 AM

I just wanted to say that it is possible to train dogs to stay away from cat poop. Reece and Harley were both REALLY attracted to it, but with a lot of patience, I never had a problem again (except one incident with Reece when he saw a foster doing it and figured it was allowed again :rolleyes: ). I also trained a long-term foster out of it.

My dogs don't do anything that makes me mad ever. They are angels :) Even when they do naughty things, I've never been mad. Lolly has her issues, but being abused for 6 years would make anyone have issues. Reece had the WORST case of seperation anxiety I've ever seen. It took us about 2 months, but he's doing so good ever since.

Patience, love, and the correct training methods can break just about any bad habit. Or with other dogs such as Hannah and Daisy, you have to use outright bribery!!!! :D