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jomama55358
04-30-2005, 07:01 AM
Hello.
7 days ago, we trapped what we knew was a pregnant stray cat in our garage. We trapped her so the kittens don't get run over & so we could get the mama fixed.
Last nite she went into labor in her cage in our spare bedroom.
As of now, it's been 14 hours since we noticed the first contractions.
Since then she has given birth to one stillborn kitten.
The contractions seem to have stopped- but we are giving her lots of privacy, so she may be having them when we're not in there.
She is either laying on top of the dead kitten or has eaten it.
We sooooo want to help her! how do we do that? We cannot touch her-should we just keep giving her privacy? For how long? Can there still be living kittens inside her? How often should we check on her? I'm terrified that because she doesn't trust us, we may do more harm than good bydoing anything more than leaving her alone.
please help us!
thanks

momcat
04-30-2005, 09:40 AM
Maybe you should check with a vet or someone at your local shelter. That may be your best source of information and help under the circumstances. Thank you for helping poor mommy. My prayers for mommy, babies, and you!

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 10:02 AM
Thanks for your reply.
We talked to several vets, including the U of Mn.
It sounds like keeping her in a quiet place & making sure she's not in distress is the best thing for now.
She seems pretty calm at the moment.
Thanks for your best wishes.

RedHedd
04-30-2005, 10:03 AM
I'd call or take her to a vet ASAP. Good luck and let us know what happens. God bless you for taking her in!

kittycats_delight
04-30-2005, 10:16 AM
14 is soooo long for a little kitty to be in labour. I think you really need to get her to a vet immediately. If she still has kittens inside they may already be "gone" or very very close by now. If you want a chance at saving this cat and any of the remaining kittens, if there are any. Get her to a vet right away.

QueenScoopalot
04-30-2005, 10:48 AM
Is she a feral cat? Or abandoned, and nervous being in? I agree that being in labor for so long may kill the remaining unborn kittens. She could have a breach kitten stuck in the birth canal, and she's unable to push it out. A shot of pitocin at the vets will stimulate contractions again. It could be she's very worn out already, and may need medical intervention. If she's aggressive to people, a large cotton laundry bag with a cinch cord works terrific for containing, and calming a cat. Just be sure to put it in a carrier for extra safety. The bonus is, the vet can examine her in the bag without having to drag her out. Hope things work out OK with the mom to be...keep us posted please!:confused: ;)

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 10:52 AM
thank you all for the replys.
the vets all said that with her being a stray, if we brought her in, they'd have to put her out to be able to examine her, & that would harm any kittens in her. they said that even though only one kitten is rare, she may be done.
We did this exact same thing last fall with a different stray mama & that labor & birthing went perfectly-four beautiful kittens- one of which we kept, plus we kept that mama & she is the mushiest lovebug kat you've ever seen. We believe that the mama we have now is the sister to the one in our "cattery".
Your prayers are appreciated.
thank you.

momcat
04-30-2005, 12:33 PM
How's mommy doing? She has been on my mind all day.

kittycats_delight
04-30-2005, 12:42 PM
How is she doing? I have been very worried too. I hope she is all finished and there are not non-living babies inside still. If she doesn't have anymore make sure to take her to the vet soon as if there are non-living babies still inside and they are left there it could most definately poisen and kill mamma too if they start to decay. Sorry, I am just very worried for mamma and any if there are any unborn babies.

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 12:51 PM
Hi. Thanks for thinking of our mamakat.
She is "comfortable" apparently.
My wife & I talked it over & after talking with 3 different vets, sadly, i gotta say that we cannot do what seems to be the best thing to do, which is to take her to an emergency vet & get her put under for an exam. We just can't afford it.
In our defense, though, I gotta say that she seems totally at ease & not in any distress.
She is laying totally catlike on her tummy with her front paws tucked. She hisses when we go in. She ate a bowl of fancy feast fish & shrimp this a.m. & has urinated.
It's been 20 hours since I 1st noticed contractions. 3 hours after that is when my wife noticed the stillborn.

kittycats_delight
04-30-2005, 01:00 PM
I know this will be a little difficult to do think there is anyway to get a feel of her belly? If that is possible you should be able to feel if there are still kittens inside. But you must be very gentle as her tummy maybe sore. Also is there any shelters near by you that has a vet on duty? If so maybe they could do the exam for you and it won't cost anything or it will cost very little. Just some suggestions that may help.

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 01:52 PM
I just called one of the shelters in our county & they will call back when a particular person arrives who might be able to help.
The last time I checked on mama (45 mins ago), she didn't look quite as comfortable as before. She was kinda hunched down.
I HATE to keep going in there because I keep hearing to give her privacy. when i do go in there, she hisses once or twice & then it's like she pretends that she's sleeping- done that since day one.

kittycats_delight
04-30-2005, 01:58 PM
Keep us updated and let us know. Also you kinda need to keep checking on her just in case something goes wrong. You are doing good.

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 02:06 PM
Okay, thanks.
I'll definitely keep you all posted.

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 02:32 PM
I just checked on mama. There is a brownish clear liquid by her rear end.
I sat w/her for several minutes & didn't see contractions, but something is happening.
If anyone wants to call my cellphone (i'm deadly slow at typing) my # 320-492-7305

furrykidsmother
04-30-2005, 03:33 PM
I don't want to interfere or cause undo alarm, but my Gidget had 2 babies in a "normal" time, then a week later I noticed a little bleeding and when I picked her up something scratched my arm. It was the 3rd baby which had been stillborn. We had to rush her in for an emergency c-section. If Mama kitty is hissing, she is probably not comfortable and something is probably not progressing the way it should. As I said I don't want to alarm, it may be normal and if she is a young cat, one baby may not be abnormal, but I would check with someone that has medical knowledge at this point. Let us know, please!

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 03:59 PM
hi
thanks for your concern. mama will be going to the vet on monday for sure.right now the aforementioned brown puddle is gone. she is sitting kinda hunched yet.
the shelter hasn't returned my call.
there's no sign of the one stillborn kitten. could she have eaten it?
I guess I should've taken it out right away, but I was scared that if I did that, she might think i was gonna steal her babies as she had them & that i'd cause more problems. I sure didn't think she'd eat it, if that's what she did.
I'm gonna go offer her some more food soon.

kittycats_delight
04-30-2005, 05:00 PM
I would call the shelter again and if they don't call back or there is no one there to give you some advise then call another. There has to be someone that can help. And yes it is possible that she ate the still born kitten. It sometimes happens. When a kitten is live born the clean them and eat the placenta so if the baby was still born it wouldn't be that strange for the mamma to do that as she would know there was something wrong. But you might want to have a look around where she is as she may have hidden it too. And also look and see if maybe there are other kittens. Is there anyway for you to touch her belly? At least if you could do that you could feel if there are more babies inside. I know she will probably bite and scratch but we are talking about possibly saving her life especially if there are still babies inside.

PayItForward
04-30-2005, 05:25 PM
sadly, i gotta say that we cannot do what seems to be the best thing to do, which is to take her to an emergency vet & get her put under for an exam. We just can't afford it.
I would not wait until Monday to see the vets, please ring the nearest non kill shelter and hand her in, so that she will get the immediate vet care which she desperately needs.

This cat should not suffer just because of you can not afford vet care for her...give her up to a charity which can do this for her.

Ring these numbers straight away and see who can help this poor cat.
http://www.geocities.com/mnpawprints/Orgs.html
http://www.fluffynet.com/shelter.htm
http://www.animalarkshelter.org/
http://www.goblackbeauty.com/comp/region.html
http://website.lineone.net/~richard.jenkin/american_by_state.htm#Minnesota

momcat
04-30-2005, 07:58 PM
I've been checking in throughout the day just to see how mommy is doing. Have you heard from the shelter yet? Monday is a long way off especially if mommy is in some kind of distress. As for the money part of this, I can't do much, but I'll help as best I can. I'll call you on the cell number you posted when I get home from church tomorrow. Your efforts and concern are very touching for this poor little stray. Part of what's happening is possibly she's scared in a strange place with strange people and not really knowing why she doesn't feel good. Good luck and keep us posted. Goodnight mommy cat, you're in a good place now

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 08:27 PM
Thank you for the kind words.
mamakat does not SEEM to be in any distress-other than being in a strange place. She hisses at us when we approach the cage, but she has done that the entire 7 days we've had her.
two hours ago, I gave her almost a whole small can of fancy feast & she cleaned the bowl within ten minutes. I checked her an hour later & she had pooped in her litter box & covered it up. The stools were more solid than they've been since she came to be with us- (we wormed her w/nemex thursday per our vets instructions) until today she has had the splats.
I searched her cage & ever sifted her old litter, looking for the stillborn kitten. She had to have eaten it. It's not in or around her cage.

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 08:37 PM
Oh, p.s. to my last message- the local shelter called back & the "administrator" there encouraged me to take her to our vet monday & have mamakat put down.
Payitforward, I don't believe there ARE any non-kill shelters. They all SAY no-kill----"unless...yadayadayada"
If mamakat seems to be suffering, if she cries or goes off of her food, we will make the trip to the emer. vet regardless of the cost. we spent over 4,000.00 last year in vet bills- mainly for our flashypants- who was in the i.c.u. at the U of M vet hospital for three days with a "fever of unknown origin".
I'll keep you all posted.

kittycats_delight
04-30-2005, 09:10 PM
Sorry but that "administrator" needs to be put down. What kind of person do they having running this shelter to suggest such a thing?Obviously not an animal lover as they would have tried to come up with a better solution than that. Please do keep us posted.

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 09:57 PM
Hi!...This is Debbie....Mama kat appears to be comfortable,yet on guard at this hour.We now know that she has indeed eaten the Kitten.Their are no signs of contractions.I am wondering if animals expel their dead babies,then wait till nature signals it is time again to finish the birthing process?Taking sometimes DAYS after the birth of the dead one?This is quite a thing going on here!
she is quiet in there,no apparent dicomfort,eating,and using her box.I would think if there was a serious problem,we would most likely she outward signs.
keep up the prayers!
thanks!!:)

jomama55358
04-30-2005, 10:01 PM
25 plus hours since expelling kitten,i am puzzled as well as scared for us ALL:(
no change going on at this time.

kittycats_delight
04-30-2005, 10:15 PM
Kitty angel watching over mamma cat. There should be some signs but sometimes we don't see them. She's eating so that is good and using and that is good too. Keep us posted Debbie. Thanks a lot.

Michelle

PayItForward
05-01-2005, 04:15 AM
Look the links I gave you have numbers for no-kill shelters on it, please ring them all until someone will take this cat. Something sounds very wrong and waiting another 48 hours will make things worse not better.

Please take this poor sick cat to somewhere for help be it an emergency vets or a shelter.

At the very least ring up the emergency vets for advice. They will tell you over the phone what they think it is and how much it will cost and if she is suffering or not.

Don't forget that cats are use to hiding pain until it becomes unbearable, so by the time this cat stops eating it could be too late to treat her :(

PayItForward
05-01-2005, 04:43 AM
The brown liquid could be

'Purulent Discharge. A foul-smelling discharge from the vagina or the mammary glands signifies the need for a veterinary visit.'

Quote from this article http://cats.about.com/cs/pregnancybirth/a/pregnancybirth_3.htm

jomama55358
05-01-2005, 07:56 AM
NO changes this morning....sitting quietly in her cage.:rolleyes:

Cataholic
05-01-2005, 09:55 AM
Please take her to the vet. Please. There must be someone in your circle of friends or family that could spot you the money. I shudder to think what this cat **could** be going through. Please re-consider, and get her in somewhere now. :(

jomama55358
05-01-2005, 10:08 AM
Hello.
mama seems very well this morning.
she sucked all the juice out of a can of friskies shredded turkey, & then covered the bowl up w/stuffed animals(not real)until we gave her the real deal- fancy feast fish & shrimp-which she devoured.
thank you very much for all the links, payitforward.
I called several shelters last night & will be contacting them today.
I did talk to several vets yesterday & listened to all their opinions.
I hope that the original title of my thread & what I said about not being able to afford the U of M didn't make people think that we're looking for a handout. I didn't mean that. I just needed & need some emotional & moral support-which I definitely got.
My wife & I both thank you all.
Yeah, mamakat seems fine this morn. She is interested in her surroundings. She has had a tough life being a stray. She will be spayed soon. I hope she stays with us. She deserves to be spoiled. My wife & I do excel at spoiling katz.
I'll keep you all updated.

momcat
05-01-2005, 12:50 PM
If you haven't already, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE check out those links!!!!!!!!!! There's as shelter here in the Trenton area that does NOT put cats down ever. A few months back the local newspaper did a feature article on this place. From the pictures, the place is beautiful with everything a kitty could hope for. Don't let mommy suffer needlessly, call a vet, under these circumstances I'd think any decent vet would work with you as far as fees. Keep us posted?

jomama55358
05-01-2005, 08:37 PM
mamakat is doing well.
She is going to vet at 8:00 in the morn.
She does not need a shelter because she has a home with us.
She does need a new name because we already have a mamakat.
She is still eating all the wet food we give her, plus we put a bit of water in w/it in case she's not drinking.
she cleans the bowl.
She just polluted her litter box so she has clean litter.
She is very very loved.
She is worried over, & she will be spoiled just as soon as she allows us to spoil her.

QueenScoopalot
05-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Glad to hear she isn't acting distressed at all, and she's seeing the vet in the A.M. If they are planning on tranquing her, I hope they follow through with the spay providing she's got no kittens besides the stillborn one. It would be a shame to knock her out and not do the surgery at the same time. ;) Hope she gets a clean bill of health, and learns to trust and love you & your family. Keep us posted. ;)

Cataholic
05-02-2005, 08:52 AM
Waiting for the uppie date!

kittycats_delight
05-02-2005, 09:53 AM
me too...how is mamakat?

furrykidsmother
05-02-2005, 03:48 PM
Anyone else worried besides me? I've been checking off and on all day for an update and would like to believe that no news is good news, but in this case I am not that confident.

I hope is well!!

kittycats_delight
05-02-2005, 04:00 PM
very concerned actually. If there is nothing later this evening I am seriously thinking about calling the cell number that was given just to check in and see how mamakat is.

QueenScoopalot
05-02-2005, 04:03 PM
I'm concerned as well, but jomama was getting quite a bit of hostility here, and may well have been scared off. :confused: Certainly doesn't hurt to call the # and let us all know that things are (hopefully) OK with Mamakat. ;) OOPs...edit She DOES need a name, as there's already a resident "Mamakat". We need a description too...and then on with thinking caps. "Lola"?

momcat
05-02-2005, 05:00 PM
I just got in from work. Mamakat has been on my mind all day. Two of my animal loving co-workers joined in to pray for a positive outcome. Any news? What did the vet say? There are a lot of animal lovers on your side, please let us know. As for her name, how about Heaven as in "a special gift from"

jomama55358
05-02-2005, 06:13 PM
Mama kat's new name is now "Molly":)
we took her to the vet first thing this morning:
Here is the news!:)
they went inside and found 1 more kitten(dead)
they removed the kitten and then they spayed her.
She is now back home with us and is recovering in our cattery in a huge cage with all the perks!!:)
she is still feeling the effects from surgery,but she is eating and using her box,and is just being quiet. she is comfortable.
thanks a bunch for all your replies and prayers as well as support for us and Molly.
may she have a speedy recovery!!
Be Blessed
P.s.
we will keep you updated,as for now....she is on her way!!
oh,and the vet says she is 5yrs old!....long time to be with out love and a forever home.We were shocked at her age.We plan on loving her one day at a time,with lotsa kisses!!!!!

momcat
05-02-2005, 06:44 PM
That is WONDERFUL news!!!!! I'm so happy and relieved that the vet was able to help in a positive way. This is a much better outcome than what was suggested by that Administrator. Molly is such a lucky girl to have found you. Things got a bit crazy there for a bit but there's a happy ending. Praying for Molly's full recovery

jomama55358
05-02-2005, 07:13 PM
just checked on Molly....still groggy.....seems to have a cough,like ALL the ferals have developed....can be treated with amoxi drops.
VERY sleepy kitty,will keep you updated!

kittycats_delight
05-02-2005, 08:20 PM
Well....we here are all super happy that Molly (what a pretty name) could be helped. It's great the vet could help her out and give you all a good outcome. It's so good that you found her or she found you. I kinda think you found each other cause without medical attention Molly may not have been so lucky. Good job. Congrats on your new furfamily member and may she have a long and healthy life with you.

Get well wishes coming your way for lucky girl Molly. May she be a wonderful addition to your family.

QueenScoopalot
05-02-2005, 09:15 PM
I'm so glad you popped back in and gave us all an uppy date! :) I'm also very happy Molly (I love her name too) got seen today, and the dead baby removed before it killed her. I'm quite surprised a cat that old would have any trouble at all birthing, but it could have been stress. :confused: Thanks for the happy news...we've all been worrying, and hope to see pictures sometime. :D Jan...owned by many as you can see. :) And those aren't all of them! :rolleyes:

furrykidsmother
05-03-2005, 07:11 AM
Very happy to hear of the outcome! Speedy recovery to Molly! Thanks for keeping us updated. We've all been worried.

jomama55358
05-03-2005, 09:40 AM
Hello
this is jomama. my wife, Debbie did the last update or two.
Yesterday when we got Molly home from the vet, she was SO "under" yet from the surgery that we had to lift her out of the carrier & lay her into her bigger cage. Needless to say, we took advantage of her vulnerable state- we petted & scratched her a bit- something we hadn't been able to do before.
I'm so glad that the crisis seems to be winding down.
I'm a 6' tall, 260+ pound man, and I am putty in a cats paws.
I feel so bad sometimes (now) because Molly DOES seem sooooo sad. I have opened a can of tuna & used it as a bait to trap her & take her from the only life she has known.
I'll bet she'd like to open up a different sort of can on me, huh?:eek:
She is the fifth stray we've brought into our house, plus ginger is the daughter of mamakat. Ginger was born in the very cage that Molly is in now.
What is it about this website that makes me so sentimental:confused: :D
I'm sure i'll get over the guilt.
It will take lots of time & love to socialize her, but kat people seem to have unlimited amounts of love when it comes to katz, huh?
I like to think that she had a hard life outside & that we're doing her a favor by bringing her to be with us.
Actually, I started trapping the local strays in our garage for a very selfish reason- I was sick to death of burying kittens.
A big guy like me crying as he digs a little hole for a little kitten that didn't make it across the street.
As my wife said, We really do appreciate all your feedback & prayers.
Molly is a very good girl.
She is a gray tabby, by the way.
joe

Tubby & Peanut's Mom
05-03-2005, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by jomama55358
Actually, I started trapping the local strays in our garage for a very selfish reason- I was sick to death of burying kittens.
A big guy like me crying as he digs a little hole for a little kitten that didn't make it across the street.
joe

Welcome Joe! I've missed this entire thread. So glad everything worked out so well for Molly.

I just wanted to point you to this thread so you can read about how you're not the only guy that was tired of burying kittens.

Let's talk about Maggie Sue (http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73770&highlight=MAGGIE+SUE)

The story is kind of long, but if you read down, you will see this statement "....hubby looked at me and said "I will not bury another one!"

Actually all of the "Let's talk about" threads are wonderful reads and show the progression of a tolerant cat dad to a down right proactive cat dad. ;) Do a search for them, they're all by Cat Crazy Lady right around the time of the "Maggie Sue" thread (she did a cat a day from first to last).

Again, Welcome to PT and congratulations on a successful outcome for Molly. :)

kittycats_delight
05-03-2005, 10:59 AM
You big softie Joe :D it's great that you love animals the way you do. My hubby is a pretty big guy too not quite so big as you but when you see a guy 6'1 and 200+ lbs watch a video like the rainbow bridge video or read an article like the one that was posted about about "Miracle Kitty" (the ginger male that was thrown into the icey cold water of the Don River in a sealed dufflebag and barely made it out alive) and cry it's quite touching. Not a lot of men are so sensitive. And not a lot of men are this way about cats.

Don't question yourself as to whether you are doing the right thing taking her off the streets. YOU ARE. At least now with you she will have a warm home, a full belly and lots of love. And also if you didn't trap her what would have happened to her with that dead kitten still inside, you know she wouldn't have made it. And another thing. Now if she gets ill you can get her the medical attention she needs, she would not get that on the street and she would most likely pass away. You did the best thing for her by removing her from the streets and giving her a chance at a good life.

Michelle

QueenScoopalot
05-03-2005, 12:08 PM
I think street waifs are the most appreciative of a home where they know they can actually let down their guard, and get a good sleep for a change. I've also taken in many pregnant ferals, and dumped ones as well, and some of those poor moms are just too run down to have thriving offspring. I'm glad you're a big softy for the many strays/ferals out there. The world needs many more caring people in it, to make things right. ;) Hope someday soon, Molly will learn to trust and appreciate what you and your wife have done for her. :) I have quite a few former ferals, and they tend to be so much more affectionate than house born cats. They've lived through some tough times, and sure do like being spoiled inside. :D Glad things are going well....Jan

Cataholic
05-03-2005, 02:31 PM
Yay Molly, and her new purrents! RIP little kitties.

momcat
05-03-2005, 05:38 PM
How is our girl Molly today? I did get your voice mail, Joe. Thanks for returning my call. You did a wonderful thing bringing Molly into your home rather than leave her to fend for herself especially since she was sick. You are doing an even more wonderful thing by deciding to make her a member of your family. I'm sure that the other PT folks who are also owned by cats will agree that once her recovery is complete and she has a chance to settle in by getting to know you, Molly will, in her own kitty way, thank you for helping her through this crisis and giving her a home full of caring, love and the security that she may never have known until now. My cat, Groucho says thank you, thank you, thank you!Please let us know how she progresses and when Molly is up to it, a picture please? And Joe, don't feel as though you have to apologize for being a man who melts at the sight of a kitten, you're a man with a big, warm, gentle, caring heart!

jomama55358
05-05-2005, 10:17 AM
Hello
okay, here's a really hard question to ask.
What are your opinions on letting molly go free again now that she's been spayed & is recovering?
I gotta say that she seems ABSOLUTELY heartbroken in that cage.
We live in a small town of about 500 people.
Molly has probably lived her whole life outside.
We are absolutely torn.
Molly has a top of the line cage with shelves & a hammock, but she crouches down under the bottom shelf & only creeps out from under there when we're NOT looking to eat or to use "the facilities".
Another thought/fear that will haunt me probably forever:
We knew Molly was pregnant when we set out to catch her. first we caught a tom, got him tutored (nuetered) & let him go.
Molly was HUGE w/babies. Here's the haunt.
Did Molly start giving birth, have some kittens, have a problem/take a break, decide to go to the little blue garage (ours)
for a quick meal, & then end up trapped with babies waiting under a shed or porch somewhere?
That horrible thought will truly haunt me forever.
She was huge, but after we got her, she only had two kittens inside her.
It's not that she's not loved or wanted.
We just want her to be happy.
Her life outside was the only life she knew.
Even if it was a hard life, i'm sure she must have gotten some happiness out of it, huh?
I've seen documentaries about "catch & release" w/feral cats.
One was in a big park in florida that is full of stray cats. people catch them, get them fixed & their ear marked & release them into the park again.
pleasae let me know your opinions.
joe

QueenScoopalot
05-05-2005, 10:47 AM
It's very unlikely that Molly would get up during labor, and get herself trapped. Generally a queen will stay in the birthing area until she's done birthing, and often won't even leave the litter for a day or two. Don't beat yourself up over it, as a cat will look huge right before the kittens drop into the birth position. They don't look quite as enormous the day of delivery. ;) If she truly seems miserable inside, and has a warm safe place to stay especially during the Winter, then maybe she'd be happier outside again. Have you tried leaving the cage door open to see if she'd be willing to come out? :confused: Then there's the other dilemma of her possibly using her hiding spots as a potty.:rolleyes:

jomama55358
05-05-2005, 12:08 PM
thanks for the reply queen.
I hope the same thing about Molly's birthing. There's no way i'll ever know for sure, so I gotta try to stop dwelling on it I suppose.
We trapped her out of care & concern for her & her babies, & to get her fixed afterwards.
Yes, the local strays do have our garage to eat & sleep in. We have several boxes & beds w/blankets & pillows in there w/ fresh water & food. I don't think they sleep there much except in the winter.
Molly is a good girl. We want her to be happy.

kittycats_delight
05-05-2005, 12:15 PM
I think maybe you should give it a little more time to see if she adjusts. She is probably still pretty scared and probablys still not overly comfortable from the spay. I know when I had my Mytsi spayed she wouldn't come out from under the bed for 3 days. All she knew was she felt ok when she went into that darned old vet and when she came out she hurt and I was the one that brought her there. I think the advise you were given is quite good and believe me "Queen" knows what she is talking about. Give it a little more time for Molly in hopes she will come around and enjoy a happy loving and warm life indoors.

Michelle

QueenScoopalot
05-05-2005, 04:01 PM
Joe, If you do end up letting her back outside to live, seeing as you live in Minnesota, the best shelter if styrofoam. I have the vets save them for me, as they get vaccines shipped in them. Pet stores that have fish often get fish delivered in them also, but they tend to be flimsy. I've seen many ferals survive the bitter cold of Winter by having these to get into. The heat their body produces doesn't dissipate, like it does having just blankets and boxes. It actually radiates back to the cat, and keeps them very warm! :eek: ;) I've put my hand inside several minutes after a cat has left (in zero degree weather) and can still feel lots of heat from the cat....self heating shelters! I duct tape the covers on after cutting a SMALL hole into the edge, and lining the hole with tape to prevent it from crumbling..then tape on the cover, and place a soft blanket into it, and put it in a dry place. I sure would like to hear that Miss Molly stays inside, but if she isn't happy then what can you do? :confused:

momcat
05-05-2005, 05:18 PM
Molly has been through quite a lot this past week. Maybe she needs time to rest up and get her strength back. It could also be that she's not sure of her surroundings just yet. Give her a chance to recoup and settle down, somehow it seems too soon to make this decision. Is she on any medication now? If so, don't worry until the meds are finished.

kittycats_delight
05-08-2005, 11:33 PM
How is Miss Molly doing? Is she adjusting at all? Have you decided to let her go? Just wanting to know how things have progressed. We all care very much for her and would love an update.

jomama55358
05-09-2005, 12:05 PM
Hello.
Molly was released saturday.
We've seen her by our garage twice since then.
We started leaving food outside for her in case she was afraid to go inside.
It just seemed like the right thing to do with her.
She looked sooooo sad. We wanted to let her go before her scent went away out there. i dunno if that's a real fear or not, but being that she is 5 yrs old, She probably is hierarchy or something:)
We didn't want her to lose her standing.
There will always be fresh food & water in the garage for all strays.
Molly will always have a place in our hearts too.
I love the advice about the styrofoam. we'll be looking into getting some.

jomama55358
05-19-2005, 01:45 PM
Just an update on Molly.
We see her several times a week. She stiil comes to our garage to eat.
She looks very healthy.:)

furrykidsmother
05-19-2005, 01:57 PM
That is wonderful news!!!:D :D :D :D

Thank you for the update. I was wondering how she was doing.

momcat
05-19-2005, 05:57 PM
Hi and thanks for the update, been wondering about Molly. Happy to hear that everything appears to be going okay with her

jomama55358
05-24-2005, 11:38 AM
Hi.
A new update on Molly.
I just saw her in the neighbors backyard-laying on her back in the sun, lazily swatting @ butterflies. Very very cute!:) :)
p.s.
found out yesterday that she likes macaroni & cheese:p

QueenScoopalot
05-24-2005, 11:56 AM
It sounds as though Miss Molly is happy being back outside. :) Not an easy decision to make about releasing cats back outdoors, but seeing as she's done so well for 5 years, I'm sure she'll thrive. At least she's not reproducing anymore, and now all the food you provide will go to fattening her up instead of nourishing fetuses, and making milk for the kittens. You'll be surprised at how fat she'll become now lol! I've TNRd cats and a year later I do double takes thinking they're pregnant, but knowing better! ;) :D :)