Letter from my apt. complex

[Luvin Labs]

I didn't wanna hijack someone else's thread, but I rcvd a letter from our complex today basically stating about some pit bulls being in here (btw, I've met both pit bulls and their owner, and they are SOOO FRIENDLY!!!, so I'm totally not ignorant about this)... and if anyone lets them know who they are they would appreciate it.

Frankly what I'd like to do is go off and tell them to stick their pet rules up their butt, but I want to write a letter to them about the ignorance of pit bulls (and other restricted breeds). Any ideas?

[Pit Chick]

You can start by telling them that "pit bull" is not a breed but a group of different breeds so which one are they referring to. Ask how does anyone know that these dogs are Pit Bulls and who can prove it? Tell them you are outraged that they would single out anyone because of the kind of dog they own and that descrimination has no place in today's society. They could lose tenants and money if they choose to base their decision on false stereotypes and lack of education.

[Luvin Labs]

Originally posted by Pit Chick
You can start by telling them that "pit bull" is not a breed but a group of different breeds so which one are they referring to. Ask how does anyone know that these dogs are Pit Bulls and who can prove it? Tell them you are outraged that they would single out anyone because of the kind of dog they own and that descrimination has no place in today's society. They could lose tenants and money if they choose to base their decision on false stereotypes and lack of education.

Thanks pitchick! Yaknow, I never knew pit bull is a term for a group of diff breeds... **dunce cap** thanks :)

[Luvin Labs]

Hmm, ok, with a bunch of c/p from some pitbull sites, and some added information, I've come up with this:


I am writing in response to your letter addressed to our building about “pit bulls” living in our complex. I am highly disappointed with this complex and their attitude towards this ‘breed’. I would be more inclined to agree with your letter and rules if there are incidences of ‘pit bulls’ attacking other dogs and people, but I am highly suspect that the individual(s) who reported these dogs are just ignorant of the breed and afraid because of the misinformation and lack of education in today’s society about these loving pets.

“Pit bull” is a generic term often used to describe all dogs with similar traits and characteristics often known by the public as "Pit Bulls". The "Pit Bull" Group includes: (parentheses include breed names that are interchangeable) Alaunt (3 types, ancient breed for fighting, hunting and guarding.)… Molossus (Coliseum Dogs, used for spectator sports), Spanish Pointer and Spanish Alano (believed to be predecessors of guard dogs), White Terrier (believed to be a predecessor of many bull and terrier dogs), Neapolitan Mastiff (also called Italian Mastiff), Dogue de Bordeaux and larger Doguin de Bordeaux (French Mastiffs), Fila Brasilario (Brazilian Mastiff), Dogo Argentina (Argentinian Mastiff), Presa Canario (Canary Island Dog), Cane Corso, English Bulldog , French Bulldog, Boxer, Alapahoola Blue Blood (Hog herding dog), American Bulldog (recreation of old style Bulldog for agility), Olde Bulldogge (also a recreation of the old style bulldog for guarding work), Victorian Bulldog, Boston Terrier (very small), American (Pit) Bull Terrier (Registered by UKC), (English) Bull Terrier, Miniature Bull Terrier, (American) Staffordshire Terrier (AKC), (English) Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Chinese Shar Pei (Chinese Fighting Dog, became almost extinct when western fighting dogs entered China but brought back to popularity as a pet because of it's unusual wrinkled skin.), Chow Chow ( used for guarding and as food), Akita (Japanese Fighting Dog), Tosa Inu (Japanese Mastiff), (Swinford) Bandog (American Mastiff) cross between male American (Pit) Bull Terrier and female Neapolitan. This information can be found at http://www.pethelp.net/pits.html.

Pit Bulls are wonderful animals that deserve a chance to have a good life like any other dog. Little is known about the background of rescue dogs. Some may be gamebred APBT (from fighting lines), some may be registered show dogs, some may be Am Staffs, some may look like APBTs but might be mixed with other breeds, etc. There is no way to know for sure unless you have the pedigree of the dog. As ‘pit bull’ is not a particular breed, but a groups of different breeds, which one are you referring to? How do you know if any of the rescued dogs here at Fieldstone are or are not ‘pit bull’ mixed? Or any of the ‘restricted’ breeds? How do you know that these dogs you were informed about are Pit Bulls and who can prove it? I’ve known many ‘pit bulls’ that are extremely friendly and would trust them more than some of the ‘tame breeds’ in this complex! My dog has been growled and snapped at by a Labrador, a collie, and a springer spaniel for no reason other than my dog was looking at them, perhaps they should be a restricted breed as well?

Another very important characteristic of Pit Bull dogs is their amazing love of people. Many people are surprised by the loving personality of these dogs the first time they meet one. Pit Bull dogs are indeed remarkably affectionate and truly enjoy human attention. They are wonderful cuddlers, and nothing beats a belly rub. In fact, most Pit Bulls think they are lap dogs!

Like any other breed, Pit bulls can develop behavior problems if poorly bred, mishandled, abused, unsocialized, etc., that could result in inappropriate aggression. Any large, strong, and powerful dog that attacks can do a lot of damage. This is why temperament evaluation is important when dealing with dogs of certain size and potential.

Do not, on the other hand, assume that because a dog can be quarrelsome with other dogs that he is "vicious", will attack children, or has to tied out with logging chains in the backyard and not treated as a pet. Many working breeds have antipathy towards other animals - coonhounds go mad at the sight of a raccoon, foxhounds will not hesitate to tear a dog-like fox to shreds, greyhounds live to chase and maul rabbits and will eagerly kill cats. They are still used today to chase down and slaughter coyotes. Even the ever-friendly beagle will slaughter a rabbit, given the chance. And yet the greyhound, coon and foxhound and beagle are among the friendliest of breeds towards humans. And it is the same with the pit bulldog. His work through the years has been control of other animals - never humans. A correct pit bull is more often than not submissive toward all humans, and adores children. A pit bull that snarls, lunges or growls at non-threatening humans is NOT typical of the breed, and to keep such a dog endangers people, pets and the image of the breed we love. Nothing could be more wrong than for these people-loving dogs to be considered a vicious breed. A correct pit bull is NOT a good choice as a guard dog - only unsound pit bulls will react with aggression towards a stranger walking by. A normal pit bull looks upon all people as friends unless their actions prove otherwise. This happy-go-lucky attitude is a result of their confidence.

Unlike the myth propagated by the media however, human aggression is NOT a problem specific to the Pit Bull breed. In fact, Pit Bulls tend to do better than average in temperament tests. Today, a properly bred Pit Bull is so exuberantly happy upon meeting her owner's friends (or even friendly strangers) that new owners sometimes worry that their dog is too sweet and fun-loving to protect their home and family... A multitalented companion, the well-trained Pit Bull is suited for a variety of exciting activities. He excels at obedience, agility and weight-pulling competitions, events which showcase intelligence, trainability and strength. In addition, the Pit Bull's pleasant nature makes him an ideal candidate for therapy work with people. In both 2002 and 2003, according to the American Temperament Test Society breed statistics, the American pit bull terrier out performed the golden retriever, a breed noted for its gentle temperament.

Pit Bulls get along great with other pets and may live happily with other dogs without any incidents. We just can't assume that this is true for all of them, or take for granted that Pit Bulls getting along with other pets today will do as well with those same pets tomorrow. Pit Bull owners need to have common sense and to make sure they don't set their dogs up for failure by putting them in the wrong situations. Animal-aggression and people-aggression are two distinctive traits and should never be confused. Unless they have been very poorly bred and/or specifically "trained" to attack humans (often by undesirable individuals through abusive methods), Pit Bulls are by nature very good with people. They are in fact one of the most loving, loyal, friendly, and dedicated companions one can have.

[jennifert9]

WOW! Your letter is amazing!!! Very well written and to the point! Great job. :D
If I am understanding you correctly, the apartment complex sent out a letter to everyone in the complex wanting someone to turn in the people who they think may have pit bulls? So the dogs have never caused a problem, they are just on a witch hunt???? That is insane! Completely unreasonable and discriminatory!
I think your letter is great, just be aware that their may be some backlash by the complex, not renewing leases or changing their pet policy completely. It's horrible and unfair but possible.
Also, one more thing you may want to do if you have the time and the energy, is forward the letter to insurance companies as they are usually ther reason most complexes will not allow certain breeds. Perhaps the office manager at the complex can be convinced to give you the name of the apt. complex's ins. company? ;)
One more thing, you also said you have met the dogs and the owners? Maybe you can slip a copy of the letter under their door along with a note. If they went ahead on their own and obtained a renters insurance policy that DOES cover their dogs, the complex will leave them alone. I know that there are companies out there that will insure these dogs. However, they don't come cheap. ( I can look it up for you tomorrow on the internet if I get a chance :) )

Good luck and thanks for sticking up for these dogs! :D


PS. I think it was my thread you would be "hijacking" but don't worry about it, I wouldn't care if you did!!! ;):D That is what it is there for, to discuss these types of thing! :D

[Luvin Labs]

Originally posted by jennifert9
WOW! Your letter is amazing!!! Very well written and to the point! Great job. :D
If I am understanding you correctly, the apartment complex sent out a letter to everyone in the complex wanting someone to turn in the people who they think may have pit bulls? So the dogs have never caused a problem, they are just on a witch hunt???? That is insane! Completely unreasonable and discriminatory!
I think your letter is great, just be aware that their may be some backlash by the complex, not renewing leases or changing their pet policy completely. It's horrible and unfair but possible.
Also, one more thing you may want to do if you have the time and the energy, is forward the letter to insurance companies as they are usually ther reason most complexes will not allow certain breeds. Perhaps the office manager at the complex can be convinced to give you the name of the apt. complex's ins. company? ;)
One more thing, you also said you have meet the dogs and the owners? Maybe you can slip a copy of the letter under their door along with a note. If they went ahead on their own and obtained a renters insurance policy that DOES cover their dogs, the complex will leave them alone. I know that there are companies out there that will insure these dogs. However, they don't come cheap. ( I can look it up for you tomorrow on the internet if I get a chance :) )

Good luck and thanks for sticking up for these dogs! :D


PS. I think it was my thread you would be "hijacking" but don't worry about it, I wouldn't care if you did!!! ;):D

Thanks a lot! :) I'm trying to find all kinds of info I can and learning newer things in the process!

Apparently someone IS witch hunting. They've complained about 'pit bulls' in the building, and we had to remove our stake out (we hook our smokey up to it and supervise him on it so he can poop and pee without us constantly watching him)... ah well, I'm more peeved about the restricted breeds bs than anything.

I HAVE met the owner and their pits, usually in the nighttime. They are very friendly. Frankly my dog has been snapped at by spaniels and other labs, so they should be restricted damnit! j/k Thing is I do not remember which apartment they are in! There are 12 apts in that building, of course one of them (mine) doesn't have them... hmm should I put this letter on the other doors too? (and mine so they dunno its me).

I was thinking about the backlash as well. It might be chicken of me, but what if I put this letter on our "corkboard" in our building? and slip one into their office when not looking? If we were closer to moving I'd walk into their office and stick it in their face, but we moved here in Feb.

[Jadapit]

That is a very well written and put together letter!! You did a wonderful job writing it. Thats so awesome that you took the time to do that for those pit bulls!:D When we got house insurance on our place we had to lie about Jada being pit. They were going to charge us so much more if we owned a pit or a pit mix. I dont like to lie but geez, its so stupid that you are charged so much more for having a pit or even a pit mix.:mad:

[Luvin Labs]

I haven't met many, two recently and maybe a few way back in my past, but I'm not ignorant and think all pits are like the ones dog fighting on animal heroes on animal planet...

plus, how could I think that a dog like THIS could be vicious?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/bigyummydog/maxphoto.jpg

:D

[LKPike]

:mad: SCREEEEW THEM!!! I absolutely cannot stand snotty apt. complexs, my mothers and my first year in Nashville we had a cat and a english bulldog. A repairman with absolutely no permission from us came into our apt one day, saw our dog ((which we were allowed to have)) and reported us! :eek: They said our dog was "too big" and we were forced to sell poor Rosie. She didn't even come up to our knees, height-wise. So what is "too big"?? Don't they mean: the dog barked because some jackass came in without us there so the dog has to go?? Yeah. That makes more sense.

[Pit Chick]

Originally posted by Luvin Labs
hmm should I put this letter on the other doors too? (and mine so they dunno its me).

I was thinking about the backlash as well. It might be chicken of me, but what if I put this letter on our "corkboard" in our building? and slip one into their office when not looking? If we were closer to moving I'd walk into their office and stick it in their face, but we moved here in Feb.

I would send it anonymously to the office and stick it on everyone's doors and the corkboard, that way you're guaranteed to get your point across to everyone and maybe it will encrouge others to take a stand too. The management doesn't want the whole complex in an uproar against them.

[Suki Wingy]

way to go! That was a great letter, but it is not

Alapahoola Blue Blood
it is Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, just to let you know!

[Bigyummydog]

WOW! and THANX!............i don't know what else to say :)

[Luvin Labs]

Welp, I've posted it on the corkboard, just gotta get it to the office and possibly each apt

I came home one night and I had put up four copies, when I came back to put 8 more up (12 apts, 12 copies) I noticed there were three, so someone took one :)

aw shucks, bigyummy... it was just selective c/p and a little bit of my words... we'll see what impact it has :-D