Puppy vomiting

[Accord]

I just notice today that all of our puppies are active, but they are eating a little less. Since they are 9 weeks old. They had their shots, called Canine Distemper, Adenovirus type II, parainfluenza and parvovirus vaccine. Are they reacting to the shot? to show it works? or what should I watch out for? The puppies passed their parvo test, but for some odd reason I dont think so. Please help me. GUESS WHAT?! I got lucky today, I have a vet assitance that comes over to our house every week. And Im trying to get a hold of him. Since hes just started learning how to use text messages. He does it for free for people who are on low income. he has the society that gives him the stuff to help. Almost like Animal Mobile. but hes really nice. So please help me watch out for something. I know they all had their shots. I can take a picture of the package and prove its done. They all look fat and healthy. Im getting them their rabie shots in June 6th at 8am and all of them fixed. So I have the buyers pitching in. Thank god they BOTH agreed. Whew.

I read about the parvo virus and its deadly and spreadable.

So I was wondering if its normal that puppies gradually cut down on eating, and starts a routine? or is it just out of blues?

Honestly this is the first time I have actually raised them. So Im doing my best I can. Please pull me through and help me. Ive raised my cats from age 4 weeks. Thomas is the oldest. Accord is the youngest, just 2 cats.

Please tell me what I should tell my "portable vet"

[caseysmom]

I thought you said you took them to banfield...now a portable vet...which is it????

[dukedogsmom]

What did the vet say?(That's in reference to your other thread) Was that dog ever taken to the vet?
Also, your two dogs in your sig didn't even live to be a year old even though the dates aren't close to each other. I suggest either getting the shots they need ALL the time or not having any animal if you can't care for them properly. But then, we've been all through this.
This is getting a little old.

[Jadapit]

Being the puppies were exposed to pravo before they ever had their shots there is a chance they will get it.:( Tell the mobile vet guy that they were exposed to pravo before they had the shots. I really hope those babies dont have parvo.:(

[Jadapit]

Originally posted by Accord
The puppies passed their parvo test, but for some odd reason I dont think so. :confused:

[LorraineO]

Gee,, why is it I am NOT surprised the puppies might be feeling ill.........?:(

[lv4dogs]

i'd tell the vet the truth. That you just had a dog pass away due to parvo and that the puppies were exposed to the area before they completed their series of vaccines.

It is very sad to say & I really hope they don't but there is a very very good chance that the puppies have parvo too.

Since your vet is mobiling out to you I strongly suggest that you warn him of the parvo at your house BEFORE he comes.

Good luck with your vet.

[Accord]

I think when they had the test done before their shot, it passed, but remember like the thread about Parvo, doesn't show anything for 7 to 10 days then it hits hard. I did take them to the vet, why do I have to pay a 500 vet bill? mmm? I hope they dont have it. I hope not. They have their shots. SEE ATTACHEMENT
This portable vet lives across from me, He's my boss's husband, I think its cool. They are getting treatment. a special kind of treatment. If you guys think im a liar fine. Ill go bye

[caseysmom]

bye again

[senorita02]

You have no right knowingly putting innocent puppies in the same vicinity as Parvo virus, (with or without a shot) there is something wrong with the whole disgusting situation, i am appaulled and feel so bad for those innocent puppies, i sure hope they can pull through.

[Accord]

He knows and he told me everything to do to kill the parvo outside and inside. We are using a product called ODOBAN SEE ATTACHMENT
It kills all kinds of viruses in 60 seconds. as what the directions says. We used that all over our walls, ceiling, we got rid of all the stuff Anya slept on, eat on, etc.
The vet come here this morning to check on the pups, and he said they are lookin pretty good, they are still eating alittle bit. thats positive sign. they are moving and playing so keep them seperated from the others. And keep an eye out for any signs. He says if anything comes up, run over to his house and get him.

[LorraineO]

Originally posted by caseysmom
bye again

oh puleese,,, this girl isnt going anywheres,,,, she cant even keep her stories straight... :rolleyes:

[MsMini]

What Is Parvo

The canine parvovirus can be transmitted by direct contact or indirectly by contact with vomit, diarrhea or any contaminated discharges from an infected dog. It strikes with a quick vengeance, and pet owners often make the comment that their dog was up and playing a few hours prior to the animal becoming extremely ill. Unfortunately, parvo is often fatal.

Do not Take your puppy out of your home where it can infect or be infected until it has had the complete series of shots. By keeping it isolated you may save its life.

Talk with a reputable Veterinarian about the recommended shots or vaccination for your puppy.

If you've recently lost a dog to Parvo, veterinarians recommend that you wait six months to a year before putting a new puppy or non-vaccinated dog in to an infected environment (even if you have disinfected it). To immediately bring an animal into a situation where one has recently died of Parvo is a virtual death sentence for the new puppy. Common sense and regular visits to the veterinarian can save your dog's life.

The symptoms of Parvo include... a sudden onset of vomiting, bloody diarrhea, dehydration, lethargy, high temperature and sometimes sudden death. Symptoms are similar in adults, although they can be less acute.

Because Parvo attacks swiftly, time is of the essence. If you feel your dog has been exposed to Parvo, or it is showing symptoms, contact your veterinarian or an emergency veterinary hospital immediately.

F-Strain Virus

There is a recent mutation of the parvo virus which is more virulent. It attacks the lower intestinal tract or large intestine. Dogs contracting this new strain will have accelerated symptoms. Care should be given immediately!

Symptoms to watch for:
Gelatin-like stool with some blood.
Vomiting with bile and foam.
Rapid weight loss (within a few hours after becoming ill.)



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I am wasting my time but hey...I have to say I tried.

[jackie]

Common sense and regular visits to the veterinarian can save your dog's life.


unfortunately both seem to be lacking.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I just hope with all my heart that all these dogs are going to survive and be well. If they don't survive, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't bring any more dogs into your life until you become more familiar with the rules of being a responsible pet owner. Do you understand that you're giving them a death sentence by bringing them into your contaminated area? No more animals need to suffer. Please read this slowly and comprehend what I'm saying. Again, God Bless these dogs. I will pray for their recovery and well-being.

Terry

p.s. I also hope that this thread isn't just the rebirth of "News Flash". Accord: Please take this board seriously and respect all the "free" expert help you're getting.

[dragondawg]

and disconcerting.

You lost your previous dog to Parvo on 15-Apr, and 5 days later you have puppies of 9 weeks age that other people are going to buy from you?

First you have to assume the puppies have been exposed to Parvo. Even with disinfecting you will always have spots missed. The virus has a minimum survival time of usually 3 months, and possibly 6 months. As a general rule an animal with a virus (including humans) is most contagious and shedding virus just before and during initial symptoms, and then again when recovering. Your previous dog had plenty of opportunity to shed virus all over your yard, and house. The illness may have come like out of the blue to you, but the virus was present for a minimum of 24 hrs before then, up to 7 days.

Per immunity: Assuming the puppies had their first vaccinations at 6 weeks, and a booster at 9 weeks then with the newer vaccines 50-75% of the puppies would be protected. But in a later post you state:


I think when they had the test done before their shot, it passed

This implies they had only 1 shot? If so then 10-25% of the puppies are protected. Also testing before they had their first shot would most likely turn up negative for virus, and positive for maternal antibodies from the mother's milk. This is why if you vaccine a puppy at 4 weeks you are guaranteed not to get protection (i.e. the maternal antibodies inactivate the attenuated virus in the vaccine preventing an immune reaction).

If the puppies were given an older type of vaccine, and/or for whatever reason the vaccine was mishandled during transportation or storage then that would also lower the potential immunity.

Since you are noticing a decrease in appetite of (all?) the puppies, this is clearly not a good sign. IF Parvo was not present in the environment then yes some puppies get a little tired from the vaccinations. But given the dangerous environment, you should assume that at least some of the puppies will develop Parvo. Your mobile Vet assistant should take the temperature of the puppies at least twice a day, and monitor closely in the next 7 days. If the temperature hits 103 or above then it's time to get to the Vet- immediately! Note the 103 is a temperature for an adult dog, puppies may run higher- consult with your Vet. You will need to get up every 4 hrs at night and check the puppies. If any appear depressed (non-responsive), are vomiting, or have diarrhea then again those affected get an emergency trip to the Vet. No waiting till the next morning from the night before will be too late.

The danger period will be the next 7 days. Once you get past that period then what you are seeing now will not be due to Parvo. However if a puppy just happens to wander to a spot where the virus still is viable then you can reset the 7 day incubation period. In another words until the puppies hit 12 weeks and have a booster shot at that time, the Parvo could still hit them.

Good luck to the puppies.

[QueenScoopalot]

I'm not going to bother reading all of this, but it does sound as if these pups are at VERY high risk of contracting parvo regardless of them having a shot 'now'. We didn't even walk our last pup Spencer (who's almost 2) anywhere there was a risk of him walking where unknown dogs had been. The only place he was allowed was our backyard where we were 99% certain there was no risk to his health and well being. He was carried if he left the yard until he had his second shot, and that was followed up by a third vaccination before he was allowed any place other dogs went! I feel terribly sorry for these innocent lives that you've brought in within hours of losing a dog to parvo. :(

[dukedogsmom]

Also, it was mentioned that the owner of the mother dog is in jail. Wonder if it's dog related charges?

[Suki Wingy]

will you please just leave her alone?! She asked for advice in the other thread and we taught her a lot. Now she just wants some more. Are we blowing a fuse here or trying to help some inocent puppies??:eek:

[QueenScoopalot]

Originally posted by dukedogsmom
Also, it was mentioned that the owner of the mother dog is in jail. Wonder if it's dog related charges?
It's all very hokey sounding to me, and sad that innocent lives are being taken for granted. There will always be more, sad to say. :( :mad:

[LorraineO]

I am growing VERY concerned as accord hasnt come back,,,, I wonder if she is dealing with some very sick puppies at this point?? Oh gawd,, I pray I am wrong!!!!!!!!

[caseysmom]

gosh I sure hope not. I went to the local shelter yesterday to license my puppy and of course I have to walk through and see the dogs, one of the pens had a huge sign that said "parvo has been detected in this pen, no dogs in here till further notice, to be bleached daily", I asked one of the workers, they said bleach is the only thing that will kill parvo and they keep all dogs out of that pen for months.

[lv4dogs]

Originally posted by LorraineO
I am growing VERY concerned as accord hasnt come back,,,, I wonder if she is dealing with some very sick puppies at this point?? Oh gawd,, I pray I am wrong!!!!!!!!

Me too.

Accord, are you there with an update?

[Accord]

GREAT NEWS!!! THE PUPPIES ARE DOING GREAT! THEY ARE PLAYING AND EATING AND DRINKING. THE AREA HAS BEEN WIPED OUT WITH CLORINE BLEACH (FOR SWIMMING POOLS) THE PUPS ARE OUTSIDE PLAYING AND HAVING A GREAT TIME! YAY!

Im so happy and relieved *has a big grin on my face*

[Accord]

dukedogsmom: Also, it was mentioned that the owner of the mother dog is in jail. Wonder if it's dog related charges?

Glad you asked, No it was because he was driving without a license or insurance. And he has avoided going into court to get the sentence. So After the officers here in Junction have finally caught up with him. He decided to give up and serve his time in jail to get it over with. So he turned him self in on March 27th 2005 (Yes easter day and my mom in law's over the hill birthday)

His dog, Sheba wasn't related. She was home with me when this happened.

[anna_66]

I'm glad to hear the pups are all doing well:)

[Accord]

:D me too ;)